11 hours ago, newnative said:

The public has a 'right' to know squat. 

 

Even if information is revealed, you need to assume that everything you read in the media about celebrities is accurate information. Perhaps you underestimate reporter's ability to fabricate/embellish/ hide information / twist the truth. 

 

I wouldn't rely too much on tabloid news to try to gain an understanding on human relationships.

 

 

10 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Even if information is revealed, you need to assume that everything you read in the media about celebrities is accurate information. Perhaps you underestimate reporter's ability to fabricate/embellish/ hide information / twist the truth. 

 

I wouldn't rely too much on tabloid news to try to gain an understanding on human relationships.

 

 

I wouldn't rely on tabloid news for anything.

2 hours ago, JakeC said:

 

You really do post some utter tosh...

 

You write about celebrities as if you know or knew them, but you haven't met even a single one of them, let alone know their stories.

It's actually quite irritating, your pretending that you know something. 

 

Anthony Bourdain left a US$1.2 million estate. It's not nothing, but barely the cost of an apartment. 

 

Whitney Houston? She was a singer, not a role model and neither are you, sitting there paying for sex with young women and spreading disease.

 

Mariah Carey also a singer and not pretending to be a role model. Lived close to me on a popular island. 

 

 

You cannot buy love. I guess you've found that out for yourself.

 

No, it just seems like you lack the capacity to understand what's written. 

 

In no way did I suggest WH or MC had to be role models. Rather what I was saying  was that  Whitney Houston was another case of a woman initially selling herself as a good girl, when in fact she was a major dope and sex addict who loved bad boys. She pretended to be one thing, but was quite another. Same with Mariah Carey, she caused great unhappiness to the music executive who supported her career and had a relationship with her.

 

Lady Gaga too pretended she was a crazy sex kitten, when in fact she was a tortured soul with mental health issues.

 

Women, typically portray themselves as someone they are not. And Argento, the actress would have done the same with Bourdain. How could he know she was a cheater? He could not know. Unless he had investigated her previous relationships.

 

I like to read biographies of celebrities btw, it's a hobby of mine. I always found fame an interesting concept.

1 hour ago, newnative said:

No to all of that.  The public has a 'right' to know squat.  Should a celebrity choose to reveal information--such as Jenna Bush announcing on national tv that she goes commando--that's entirely up to the celebrity to decide what, if anything, they share with the public.  

 

I disagree, the public made the celebrities rich and famous. They have a right to know.

Cameroni, your quote - I like to read biographies of celebrities btw, it's a hobby of mine. I always found fame an interesting concept.

I like to read biographies of musicians I admire, more than one has said they enjoy the success but dislike the fame. 

Do you want to be famous yourself??

 

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

Cameroni, your quote - I like to read biographies of celebrities btw, it's a hobby of mine. I always found fame an interesting concept.

I like to read biographies of musicians I admire, more than one has said they enjoy the success but dislike the fame. 

Do you want to be famous yourself??

 

 

I started reading biographies of actors, Marlon Brando, Errol Flynn, Ava Gardner, Dean Martin, Jerry Lewis, Sinatra, Elvis. I actually like to read biographies generally, also of historical figures or commodities, like salt or coffee.

 

But with actors, it is often very interesting, because their lives are so colourful and often immoral. Ava Gardner, for instance was a total slut, one had to pity any man that met her. Sinatra handled it best, but she crushed his soul too.

 

Who says I'm not famous? 

 

Maybe I'm a celebrity.

So as I was working I had Bourdain's Rome episode on, when he met Argento. I couldn't keep watching, I had to turn it off. To hear him sing the praises of this woman who killed him, too pathetic to watch.

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No, it just seems like you lack the capacity to understand what's written. 

 

In no way did I suggest WH or MC had to be role models. Rather what I was saying  was that  Whitney Houston was another case of a woman initially selling herself as a good girl, when in fact she was a major dope and sex addict who loved bad boys. She pretended to be one thing, but was quite another. Same with Mariah Carey, she caused great unhappiness to the music executive who supported her career and had a relationship with her.

 

Lady Gaga too pretended she was a crazy sex kitten, when in fact she was a tortured soul with mental health issues.

 

Women, typically portray themselves as someone they are not. And Argento, the actress would have done the same with Bourdain. How could he know she was a cheater? He could not know. Unless he had investigated her previous relationships.

 

I like to read biographies of celebrities btw, it's a hobby of mine. I always found fame an interesting concept.

 

I understand perfectly that you are emitting bilge water.

If you were a 'celebrity' you would understand that Whitney's image had nothing to do with her. They are a brand created by someone else. 

They are just normal people with a special talent. That talent is exploited to the maximum. People choose their own ways to 'escape'. 

It's not all glitz and glamour and it's not really fun living your life under constant scrutiny. 

Imagine how your life would look if people pored over your every word and action. You would come over as a misogynistic sleaze bag. A terrible inhuman being. But that's not how you see yourself, is it?

Too shallow. Too superficial.

 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

So as I was working I had Bourdain's Rome episode on, when he met Argento. I couldn't keep watching, I had to turn it off. To hear him sing the praises of this woman who killed him, too pathetic to watch.

What's more pathetic is reading eight pages of obsession, watching one poster shout at the sky, page after page after page..

An absolute obsession. Not healthy, not nice, not normal.

5 hours ago, JakeC said:

Whitney's image had nothing to do with her.

 

That's what I said, genius. You're getting closeer to the point I was making, albeit unintentionally.

 

See, just as Whitney Houston's "good girl" image had nothing to do with her real life persona of a major dope addict promiscuous bad boy lover, so Argento's imagine of the "honest oustpoken" Italian with her heart in the right place,  had nothing to do with her real personality. So Bourdain was deceived. In fact almost every woman portrays an image that has nothing to do with her real personality, as the objective is to deceive and manipulate.

 

And boy was Bourdain manipulated. From a prostitute using drug user he turned into an outspoken "Me Too" feminist. All because Argento maniuplated him. And finally, killed him.

 

Food for thought. 

 

Lauren Bacall is another example, portrayed the classy lady, but in reality was a man meat lover extraordinaire. Judy Garland, a drug addict with borderline personality disorder. Grace Kelly? Ultrapromiscuous princess. Ediat Piaf?Borderline Personality Disoder? Just like Marilyin g Monroe.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/22/women-men-mental-illness-study

 

There is no doubt Argento is a sociopath. Even now, after the book about Bourdain which told the truth about her last hateful texts came out, what did she do? Apologise? No, she posted a disgusting photo on Instagram captioned "Stop busting my balls". The very words which caused Bourdain to kill himself.

4 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

An absolute obsession. Not healthy, not nice, not normal.

 

A bit like you with this thread huh? 

 

"I'm leaving this thread"!!! But posts again and again and again, can't stay away. Lol.

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That's what I said, genius. You're getting closeer to the point I was making, albeit unintentionally.

 

See, just as Whitney Houston's "good girl" image had nothing to do with her real life persona of a major dope addict promiscuous bad boy lover, so Argento's imagine of the "honest oustpoken" Italian with her heart in the right place,  had nothing to do with her real personality. So Bourdain was deceived. In fact almost every woman portrays an image that has nothing to do with her real personality, as the objective is to deceive and manipulate.

 

And boy was Bourdain manipulated. From a prostitute using drug user he turned into an outspoken "Me Too" feminist. All because Argento maniuplated him. And finally, killed him.

 

Food for thought. 

 

Lauren Bacall is another example, portrayed the classy lady, but in reality was a man meat lover extraordinaire. Judy Garland, a drug addict with borderline personality disorder. Grace Kelly? Ultrapromiscuous princess. Ediat Piaf?Borderline Personality Disoder? Just like Marilyin g Monroe.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/22/women-men-mental-illness-study

 

There is no doubt Argento is a sociopath. Even now, after the book about Bourdain which told the truth about her last hateful texts came out, what did she do? Apologise? No, she posted a disgusting photo on Instagram captioned "Stop busting my balls". The very words which caused Bourdain to kill himself.

 

No, that is not what you said, weirdo. You insinuated that the women were behind the deception, when it was in fact their male handlers. Clive Davis, for example.

 

So the males coerced the women.. If the women did not conform, they were replaced or just neglected. Many names you haven't heard of suffered that fate. So Whitney worked hard in her twenties and then wanted to enjoy her life. But already too messed up by the game to make the best decisions.

 

 

It seems that you are suffering from delusions and in denial. It's people like you who corrupt and coerce these women.

Offering them inducements to have sex. Spreading disease. That's not necessarily going to set someone on a good path. You are part of the problem and here you are trying to blame women. It's just sick. 

A good man shows the good path. The good women will walk alongside him.

Sleazy corrupters have nothing good to offer. They are just tricksters trying to coerce others into their sleazy lifestyle. A reprehensible modus operandi.

It takes all sorts it seems.

 

 

 

17 hours ago, Cameroni said:

So as I was working I had Bourdain's Rome episode on, when he met Argento. I couldn't keep watching, I had to turn it off. To hear him sing the praises of this woman who killed him, too pathetic to watch.

Murder? He killed himself 

56 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

A bit like you with this thread huh? 

 

"I'm leaving this thread"!!! But posts again and again and again, can't stay away. Lol.

I can't help it - I think the thread is over but then you come back and post more and more and more obsessive and hateful rubbish, it really makes me wonder what makes you tick and why you have this hatred of women inside you.

On 5/26/2025 at 9:23 PM, Cameroni said:

As the final texts of Anthony Bourdain have emerged, we see a heart breaking story. Anthony Bourdain was madly in love with Asia Argento. Just before his death he saw photos of Argento kissing and hugging Hugo Clement. He had a heated exchange with Argento, who broke up with him. She had cheated on Bourdain in a hotel they had both loved and enjoyed together. Argento had the gall to claim Bourdain was "possessive" when she was fornicating with another man. Unbelievable. She tried to twist the narrative into Bourdain having had a mental illness, but there is no doubt now whatsoever that Bourdain killed himself as a direct consequence of Argento having sex with another man and breaking up with Bourdain. If you want to know what really happened watch this video.

 

 

He made the decision to end his life, he has no right to control her actions

She ended the relationship, her right to <deleted> who she chooses, not his.

Yes depressed, heart broken understandable

He made her more important in his life than he was in hers.

The direct consequences causing his death, were his actions and decisions.

 

 

47 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Whitney worked hard in her twenties and then wanted to enjoy her life. But already too messed up by the game to make the best decisions.

 

You're wrong. Whitney Houston was using drugs before she became famous. And she knew full well she could not show her real self, a promiscuous, drug taking  woman who liked it outrageous, preferably high on drugs..

 

Even if she got some help to curate the good girl imagine, the point is that it was a deception. A manipulation, of the male audience.

 

The same way as Argento manipulated her male audience. The same way most women manipulate and deceive men the world over.

 

How could Bourdain know Argento was a cheating liar? He was deceived, he could not know.

12 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

He made the decision to end his life, he has no right to control her actions

 

He did not try to control her actions, don't be ridiculous. She was as free as a bird. They were living apart.  All he asked for was some sympathy from her for his suffering, for his heartbreak, seeing how she slept with another guy in the hotel that was special to them, where they had previously had a good time.

 

But even that, Argento was not willing to provide. Not an ounce of understanding, empathy or compassion. 

 

As Bourdain said:

 

AB: It would have been so easy to have helped me out here.

I required so little. But “<deleted> you” is your answer.

 

In reality of course it was Argento who had no right. She had pretended to Bourdain that they had a loving relationship. That she committed to him. When he was paying her hundreds of thousands of dollars, that was her story. But after she got what she wanted, she cheated on him. But she had no right to cheat. She was in a committed relationship. She betrayed Bourdain. His death is the direct consequence of her cheating and ending what he thought would be a relationship that would last.

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You're wrong. Whitney Houston was using drugs before she became famous. And she knew full well she could not show her real self, a promiscuous, drug taking  woman who liked it outrageous, preferably high on drugs..

 

Even if she got some help to curate the good girl imagine, the point is that it was a deception. A manipulation, of the male audience.

 

The same way as Argento manipulated her male audience. The same way most women manipulate and deceive men the world over.

 

How could Bourdain know Argento was a cheating liar? He was deceived, he could not know.

 

I used drugs as a teenager too. Marijuana with my friends. So what? Are you Gossip Girl? Beginning to think that you aren't a man at all. Are you a Tom? Why all this 'celebrity gossip'? Worse than that, utter 💩

 

Got some help? The men in charge create the image. She had no say in it at all. Do you imagine that she is a marketing expert?

 

She was more of a tomboy. My girl similarly can dress down in a loose t-shirt and sweats and the next day almost unrecognisable with a different hairstyle and clothing. Is she deceiving me?

 

You are just talking wet. The mind of a child.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, JakeC said:

So what? 

 

So all her life Whitney Houston was a drug taking, promiscuous party girl who liked bad boys. But she sold a sweetness personified, sugar and spice and all things nice, persona. She did that. She pretended she was someone she wasn't.

 

The point is, this is how Bourdain was deceived by Argento. She too, pretended she was a woman of integrity, who spoke her mind and was honest. When in reality she was the exact opposite, a cheater who was creeping behind Bourdain's back. Only through photos being published in the press did it come out.

 

Maybe your woman is pretening she is someone she isn't too. And you're just buying it like a naive little boy?

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I can't help it - I think the thread is over but then you come back and post more and more and more obsessive and hateful rubbish, it really makes me wonder what makes you tick and why you have this hatred of women inside you.

 

I think we have some idea of why he hates them. Not too long ago, he was singing the praises of someone other girl under similar circumstance. You can search out the post. She not only left him with a gift, but cheated on him afterwards too.

Yet, he still continues believing that he can buy himself a relationship with a pretty girl. it's so sad. 

 

A universal characteristic of insanity is inflexibly doing the same thing over and over while hoping for different results.

 

Just now, JakeC said:

 

I think we have some idea of why he hates them. Not too long ago, he was singing the praises of someone other girl under similar circumstance. You can search out the post. She not only left him with a gift, but cheated on him afterwards too.

Yet, he still continues believing that he can buy himself a relationship with a pretty girl. it's so sad. 

 

A universal characteristic of insanity is inflexibly doing the same thing over and over while hoping for different results.

 

 

So I'm insane now?

 

That's almost downright rude.

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Maybe your woman is pretening she is someone she isn't too. And you're just buying it like a naive little boy?

 

There lies the crux of the matter. I don't buy anything. There's no money involved. She just offered to help me with a laborious project. That's someone who cares about me, rather than waiting for me to give her money.

How about yours? What do she do for you? Does she clean your apartment? Does she cook for you? 

Tell us about the relationship, rather than your school boy rating of an '11'.

My offer to swap media in order to quantify what you see as an '11' still stands. So far, you are all talk and no action. I maintain that my girl is head and shoulders above your paid companion.

2 minutes ago, JakeC said:

 

There lies the crux of the matter. I don't buy anything. There's no money involved. She just offered to help me with a laborious project. That's someone who cares about me, rather than waiting for me to give her money.

How about yours? What do she do for you? Does she clean your apartment? Does she cook for you? 

Tell us about the relationship, rather than your school boy rating of an '11'.

 

I'm  not talking about money. I'm talking about buying into a woman's portrayal of a false persona, the standard modus operandi of the female is to deceive and manipulate after all. Did you not notice any of her portrayed persona is false?

 

Yes, she does cook for me and does dishes actually. Cleans floors too. But she doesn't do laundry. I have to do my own laundry! Can you believe that? She might hang it up. But she won't do the laundry.

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So I'm insane now?

 

That's almost downright rude.

 

From your behaviour on this thread and in others, there are some who are concerned as to your mental health. I'm not joking and neither are they.

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I'm  not talking about money. I'm talking about buying into a woman's portrayal of a false persona, the standard modus operandi of the female is to deceive and manipulate after all. Did you not notice any of her portrayed persona is false?

 

Yes, she does cook for me and does dishes actually. Cleans floors too. But she doesn't do laundry. I have to do my own laundry! Can you believe that? She might hang it up. But she won't do the laundry.

 

You have a false persona. That's the elephant in your room.

Post a pic of any of the meals that she has cooked for you.

2 minutes ago, JakeC said:

 

You have a false persona. That's the elephant in your room.

Post a pic of any of the meals that she has cooked for you.

 

You are clearly insane.

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You are clearly insane.

 

You claim that you are 50+ but you are still acting like a little teenager, shallowly rating your paid companions out of 10. Do you discuss your health issues with your partner or are you too callous and uncaring to do so?

When last did you have a real partner? Have you ever had a real partner?

 

"You were reckless with my heart".

 

Gag me, Simp. Take the loss and don't embarrass yourself, certainly don't kill yourself.

 

She appealed to his ego, to how he wanted to see himself.

 

It's very New York. The people who affirm you're preferred self image are the people you pick as friends.

 

If you don't want to be miserable:

 

-be low ego

-look at yourself as sort of a joke

-validate yourself, don't look to others. 

 

He wanted to be too many things: too late Beat Poet, fake punk rocker, pretend Hemingway, guy implausibly shooting a gun to fill out a segment.

 

She's a BPD hottie who killed him in bed. Had he read a bit about BPD, and just enjoyed the sex, he'd still be boring me today.

 

When he did the Laos episode, they had to buy a bomb from Vietnam to explode for him, like it happens every day. The Lao restaurant he goes to in Vientiane was assembled only for the shoot. He was a terrible, ego-mad, person who appealed to the worst main character syndrome instincts in his fans.

1 hour ago, Prubangboy said:

She's a BPD hottie who killed him in bed. Had he read a bit about BPD, and just enjoyed the sex, he'd still be boring me today.

 

Maybe she was a hottie 30 years ago. But he when he met her she was 41 and had two kids. Have you seen the Rome episode? 

 

She didn't get him on looks. Many seducers aren't that good looking. She got him on attitude and fake persona.