1 minute ago, StreetCowboy said:

You can big it up all you want, but I'm not buying it from you, and obviously, no-one else is eithert

The ones who are interested in learning about money dont need to reply. There are 53 million millionaires in the world and only 21 million bitcoin. Not enough for all of them to have a whole coin

3 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

But there's only one f in 'of', so Proton is correct. And by the way, 'There's two'. is also wrong. It should be 'there are two'.

 

Get your own English sorted before trying to be a smart Alex.

 

3 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

But there's only one f in 'of', so Proton is correct. And by the way, 'There's two'. is also wrong. It should be 'there are two'.

 

Get your own English sorted before trying to be a smart Alex.

Alec

Aleck, if the internet is to be believed.

My previous post was a change of meaning, not pedantry.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

We know another crisis coming, some of your investments will vanish, others not, we all know that, but if fiat money fails, there is one thing you have to understand, bitcoin will go down together with fiat money. There is nothing left to support an imaginary value.

When the world realizes at the same time about the value of their paper money, it will be too late for you and many others

5 minutes ago, hotsun said:

When the world realizes at the same time about the value of their paper money, it will be too late for you and many others

Oh my, so many manic posters on the forum who repeatedly arguing with the same arguments without any sign of nuance. 
 

do you have a btc at all

Biggest threats :

fake news

corruption

apathy

greed

stupidity 

uncontrolled Ai

climate change

the rise of anti science

 

7 minutes ago, hotsun said:

When the world realizes at the same time about the value of their paper money, it will be too late for you and many others

Everyone has always known that paper currency has very little intrinsic value. 

 

Everyone knows what it is worth without a government backing it. 

9 minutes ago, hotsun said:

The ones who are interested in learning about money dont need to reply. There are 53 million millionaires in the world and only 21 million bitcoin. Not enough for all of them to have a whole coin

Do you believe the world finance institutions will embrace btc to replace fiat money, or make their own cryptocurrency? &nbsp
 

Trump just opened up for his own, did you buy? 
 

Started at 45usd now down 32 usd, so it’s a great time to buy.

Back in the day, we had bubbles on things like tulip bulbs, where the price skyrocketed based on market sentiment.  Tell me again the underlying value of bitcoin that is not based on market sentiment.

5 hours ago, Hummin said:

I said in another thread: Conspiracy is more powerful than religion, and if you combined those to, you are in position to overthrow governments, you just need to feed the masses with what you want them to believe with help from fast social media and algorithm. 

 

So I asked AI

 

The relationship between conspiracy theories and religion is complex and multifaceted. Some studies suggest a correlation between religiosity and a higher tendency to believe in conspiracy theories, potentially due to shared identity and norms within religious groups, which can lead to distrust of external authorities. However, it's also argued that both religious and non-religious individuals may be drawn to conspiracy theories for different reasons, and that religious fundamentalism may play a role in conspiracy thinking. Additionally, the internet and social media have amplified the spread of conspiracy theories, potentially affecting religious communities as well. 

 

 

Google search of researches done, and surprisingly not much, but there is some results.

 

https://temple.manifoldapp.org/read/an-epidemic-among-my-people/section/0af36372-6d80-48f8-bcb7-7e4e41009adb

 

https://asociacionvenezolanadesociologia.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/The-Uses-of-Conspiracy-Theories-for-the-Construction-of-a-Political-Religion-in-Venezuela.pdf

 

https://jspp.psychopen.eu/index.php/jspp/article/view/5609/5609.html

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377693515_Conspiracy_Theories_and_Religion_Christian_Nationalism_and_the_Rise_of_North_American_Populism

 

 

Maybe considered off-topic, but my immediate thought was Covid.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Do you believe the world finance institutions will embrace btc to replace fiat money, or make their own cryptocurrency? &nbsp
 

Trump just opened up for his own, did you buy? 
 

Started at 45usd now down 32 usd, so it’s a great time to buy.

Let's face it - Trump is a convicted fraudster who walks away from his investors. Despite my negative opinion, he brings kleptocurrency into a bad light 

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Everyone has always known that paper currency has very little intrinsic value. 

 

Everyone knows what it is worth without a government backing it. 

I would say most people dont even think about it, the vast majority

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Do you believe the world finance institutions will embrace btc to replace fiat money, or make their own cryptocurrency? &nbsp
 

Trump just opened up for his own, did you buy? 
 

Started at 45usd now down 32 usd, so it’s a great time to buy.

Bitcoin becoming the world currency was inevitable since it was invented in 2009, due to what happened in 2008.

6 minutes ago, safarimike11 said:

Maybe considered off-topic, but my immediate thought was Covid.

Nothing is off topic here, 

10 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

Back in the day, we had bubbles on things like tulip bulbs, where the price skyrocketed based on market sentiment.  Tell me again the underlying value of bitcoin that is not based on market sentiment.

What people are willing to pay for it. No money has intrinsic value

8 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

Let's face it - Trump is a convicted fraudster who walks away from his investors. Despite my negative opinion, he brings kleptocurrency into a bad light 

No doubt, he have no credibility, but still he managed to rock the markeds, making a few richer, while most lost big time. We will see where this ends, it aint over before,  ,,,,,,?

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

What people are willing to pay for it. No money has intrinsic value

 

Good on you for promoting Putin's War On Truth.  Fiat currencies are managed by nation states.  Bitcoin is managed by kleptocrats.  You would be lucky to make real gold or fiat money out of it; I would not, and prefer to stay closer to the real world.

5 minutes ago, hotsun said:

I would say most people dont even think about it, the vast 

 

4 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Bitcoin becoming the world currency was inevitable since it was invented in 2009, due to what happened in 2008.

Right now you not answering questions, just trolling. There is no sense continue replying

1 minute ago, StreetCowboy said:

 

Good on you for promoting Putin's War On Truth.  Fiat currencies are managed by nation states.  Bitcoin is managed by kleptocrats.  You would be lucky to make real gold or fiat money out of it; I would not, and prefer to stay closer to the real world.

Bitcoin is managed by nerds. The type of people who should be making decisions, not politicians

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

AI will terminate so many jobs there will be unrest unless everyone gets a basic wage for nothing, which won't happen with tax revenues going down

Happening already as robotics replacing millions of workers, business doesn't have to worry over strikes of workers!, no pensions, health care, just a tad of maintenance regularly.  That is part of the stupidity of Trump and bringing manufacturing plants back to provide well paying jobs to the masses.  The manufacturing giants have it all figured out already and no matter what they will always be looking for a cheaper way to produce anything instead of worring about what country they are from or are in.  The Chinese have figured it out too, make a trade deal with a poor country, then provided low quality and cheap goods to stores controlled by Chinese in those poor countries.  Just look at the stories of the cheap stores in this country and the Chinese owned/managed are forcing a 100 a month to close for several years now.

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

What people are willing to pay for it

I decided to jump on the Bitcoin bandwagon back in November 2017. I sold 2/3 of what I owned on the 18th of December 2017, meaning that what I retained was pure profit. However, the next year (2018) saw the price slide from a peak of $18,000 odd down to $6,000 odd; I think I finally got out somewhere below $10,000. The reason I got out - it was in September 2018 - was that the company started wanting more and more information into my finances. My message then and is still: Don't invest anything into Cryptos that you can't afford to lose.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

Right now you not answering questions, just trolling. There is no sense continue replying

Your question was irrelevant. Its clear theres nothing governments can do to stop it. America was the first major country to embrace it. America has the most to benefit

Just now, safarimike11 said:

I decided to jump on the Bitcoin bandwagon back in November 2017. I sold 2/3 of what I owned on the 18th of December 2017, meaning that what I retained was pure profit. However, the next year (2018) saw the price slide from a peak of $18,000 odd down to $6,000 odd; I think I finally got out somewhere below $10,000. The reason I got out - it was in September 2018 - was that the company started wanting more and more information into my finances. My message then and is still: Don't invest anything into Cryptos that you can't afford to lose.

All that matters is not having none. If you have some youre good

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

Your question was irrelevant. Its clear theres nothing governments can do to stop it. America was the first major country to embrace it. America has the most to benefit

America billionaires, America state, or America people?
We probably all need to choose sides in the American Civil War that is happening now, just as we did back in the 1870s

2 minutes ago, hotsun said:

All that matters is not having none. If you have some youre good

How much are you selling for? How desperate are you to get out?
I'm not being negative - I'm listening

1 minute ago, StreetCowboy said:

America billionaires, America state, or America people?
We probably all need to choose sides in the American Civil War that is happening now, just as we did back in the 1870s

American companies, american people, the stock market. America is the country of now and the country of the future

1 minute ago, StreetCowboy said:

How much are you selling for? How desperate are you to get out?
I'm not being negative - I'm listening

Ive been buying since 2014. You can have my dollars i dont want them

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

American companies, american people, the stock market. America is the country of now and the country of the future

American people will be hit the biggest, massive job losses because they are paid too highly

 

 

Just now, StreetCowboy said:

How much are you selling for? How desperate are you to get out?
I'm not being negative - I'm listening

If your question is addressed to me sir, I got out in September 2018. I tried to get back in with 2 different companies over the last couple of years, but they want too much personal financial information - that I am not willing to give anyone.

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

American people will be hit the biggest, massive job losses because they are paid too highly

 

 

The ones with only dollars and dollar denominated assets are in trouble

Just now, hotsun said:

American companies, american people, the stock market. America is the country of now and the country of the future

Big it up all you want, but you need to leaning towards credibility.
When do you think the American stock markets will start using Bitcoin?  The IRS?
You can big it up all you want, but it is a speculative bubble kleptocurrency, and that is the end of it, and anyone that believes otherwise had better scarper before the balloon bursts