Giving the lonely false hope

[georgegeorgia]

Just now, ColeBOzbourne said:

After reading the OP, I had to sit down and cry for a while. Now I have things to do, but I'll have more free time around 7:00 this evening. I made myself a note so I won't forget to sit down and cry a little more. 

That's when you will be getting home from work Harold 

You live by yourself (maybe a pet cat ) and no family left and you watch these youtubers in the evening and YET you listen to them telling you that life will be better if you sold up your house and MOVED !!!!!

[KhunLA]

21 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Isn't Bangkok the place to retire if your into that ?

 

31 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 fairly none existent or repetitively boring here, TH.

 

[JBChiangRai]

Generally, single males of that age can be poor & miserable in their home country or be rich and miserable in Thailand.

 

How long they stay rich depends on the ladies usually.

 

We say money doesn't buy you happiness but you can be miserable in luxury.

[bkk6060]

When the Humanoid robots are available to all, noone will be lonely. 

 

[spidermike007]

A lot of guys leave really desolate lives of loneliness and desperation back in the West. There is potential for so much more here, granted if they hang out at bars, and date bar girls, thinking it is anything other than fun and games, there is a good chance that their Thailand hopes and dreams might be shattered.

 

But if one is careful and prudent and exercises good survival skills and is rather judicious in their approach, there's a great chance of fulfillment here in Thailand. I found it myself and many others have, and can find it. 

 

Unless somebody as a centimillionaire the quality of life here is 10 times what it is back in the west. 

[Prubangboy]

I have more friends, of both sexes, then I ever had back in the USA.
 

If you can’t be social and laid-back and joyous, Thailand, you brought your loneliness problem with you and you refuse to let it go

[georgegeorgia]

7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Generally, single males of that age can be poor & miserable in their home country or be rich and miserable in Thailand.

 

How long they stay rich depends on the ladies usually.

 

We say money doesn't buy you happiness but you can be miserable in luxury.

So I have come to this conclusion in my studies 

A man just say around 60ish listens to the YouTuber and sells his UK house or let's not be racist please ,we can include Australian house and then moves to Pattaya 

He rents out a studio and lives " By Himself." ...same as he did in the UK.

 

in all reality he will go back to the UK ,maybe even the Australian the same 

But if we take this interesting study.....the guys moved to Thailand AND.....AND ....has a PARTNER to live with ....there is far less chance he will move back to the UK 

Whh ?

Because he is no longer lonely 

[georgegeorgia]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

judicious in their approach, there's a great chance of fulfillment

Excellent word 

I have never heard this word "judicious'

"Judicious in their approach "

 

 

Excellent 

and this folks is the reason I read this forum because of learning new things and words 

[Prubangboy]

I have more friends here than I ever had back in the states.
 

If you can’t be social in breezy, laid-back Thailand, then stay in Cardiff. You won’t even recognize the difference.

[georgegeorgia]

1 minute ago, Prubangboy said:

I have more friends here than I ever had back in the states.
 

If you can’t be social in breezy, laid-back Thailand, then stay in Cardiff. You won’t even recognize the difference.

You may be using the judicious approach 

Are you perhaps using the judicious approach?

[Felton Jarvis]

I'm 75 and live with a nice 47-year-old woman who has no connection to the bar scene. She lost her traditional massage job during the pandemic and I took her in. I am no longer interested in the bar scene and visit 7-11 for my beer. She only eats Thai food so feeding her is cheap. She is casually employed babysitting for my landlady (who adores her). She is one of those people who never meets a stranger and is not pressing me for marriage.   My situation works pretty well. I had no luck with women back in the USA, but I'm not likely to die alone here in Thailand. Men who stay clean and dress nicely can do fairly well here in Thailand.

[Prubangboy]

Nah, I just go to meet ups.

 

If I exchange line details five times, one of those people turns into some kind of friendly acquaintance, and occasionally, a friend.

[georgegeorgia]

1 minute ago, Felton Jarvis said:

I'm 75 and live with a nice 47-year-old woman who has no connection to the bar scene. She lost her traditional massage job during the pandemic and I took her in. I am no longer interested in the bar scene and visit 7-11 for my beer. She only eats Thai food so feeding her is cheap. She is casually employed babysitting for my landlady (who adores her). She is one of those people who never meets a stranger and is not pressing me for marriage.   My situation works pretty well. I had no luck with women back in the USA, but I'm not likely to die alone here in Thailand. Men who stay clean and dress nicely can do fairly well here in Thailand.

Beautiful post 

And you would be lonely without her 

[georgegeorgia]

2 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

Nah, I just go to meet ups.

 

If I exchange line details five times, one of those people turns into some kind of friendly acquaintance, and occasionally, a friend.

Well it seems to be the same as "approaching it in a way judicious way " 

Have you gave much thought to that ?

[1FinickyOne]

14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

They find no friends in Pattaya ,they become lonely ,they then have regrets and after 1 year there back in the UK or Australia right 

Right !

Yes 

Not everybody has the same experience - but yes, I believe that is your experience... 

[georgegeorgia]

1 minute ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Not everybody has the same experience - but yes, I believe that is your experience... 

It's not my experience until I was locked up / detained in the View Talay 2B apartment last year when I "escaped" with the help of certain posters here and made it back to Australia 

[newbee2022]

14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I just watched a YouTube video of a Pattaya YouTuber ( from UK)  who is telling guys that are by themselves in their own country to retire early and move to Pattaya 

 

Then I read the sad comments on his YouTube ,some guys are saying they can't wait to move to Pattaya so they won't be lonely anymore , they're stuck in the UK by jobs etc 

 

One guy wrote ( Harold) (which I cried after reading ) is that he was a 60yo man who lives by himself with no family from Cardiff in the UK and he works Monday to Friday ,comes home at night to a empty house, cooks his dinner watches TV  and repeats it the next day 

Weekends he is lonely 

 

He says he can't wait to retire and move to Pattaya so he "doesn't feel lonely"anymore !!!

 

He will sell his house in Cardiff ,give up his government job early so he can move to Pattaya 

 

Now guys please ...we know in reality the YouTuber is lying , move to Pattaya and You won't be lonely....really ?

 

The reality is...

..the lonely guys move from the UK or Australia or wherever to Thailand and move into a 21sqm studio by themselves they work out all the "company" costs money ,no real friends, it all costs money and after a certain amount of time ...1 year? 2 years? work out the "lonilesness" is still ther

 

They find no friends in Pattaya ,they become lonely ,they then have regrets and after 1 year there back in the UK or Australia right 

Right !

Yes 

Thank me ....

I know ..I have studied this

No, 

If you're lonely in Cardiff you will be lonely in Pattaya.

If you can't go to meet other age mates in Cardiff, you won't be happy in Pattaya.

You have to leave your comfort zone here or there.

Pattaya can offer only a glittering facade.

Sure, you can buy hours of false happiness. Here and there.

In the end it depends on yourself to socialize with other people and find peace.

[georgegeorgia]

4 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

No, 

If you're lonely in Cardiff you will be lonely in Pattaya.

If you can't go to meet other age mates in Cardiff, you won't be happy in Pattaya.

You have to leave your comfort zone here or there.

Pattaya can offer only a glittering facade.

Sure, you can buy hours of false happiness. Here and there.

In the end it depends on yourself to socialize with other people and find peace.

What do you suggest for someone like Harold 

To join the Pattaya expats club ?

Then what 

[newbee2022]

3 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

What do you suggest for someone like Harold 

To join the Pattaya expats club ?

Then what 

 

3 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

What do you suggest for someone like Harold 

To join the Pattaya expats club ?

Then what 

There are a lot of occasions to meet other people. First, find out what you're interested in. Then, what are your hobbies. And then use AI or Google to find places where and when to meet.

Actually, the expat club can be helpful to find mates for eg tennis, bowling, painting, diving....

[cdemundo]

30 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Excellent word 

I have never heard this word "judicious'

"Judicious in their approach "

 

 

Excellent 

and this folks is the reason I read this forum because of learning new things and words 

 

If you google "at what grade level is judicious a vocabulary word?" you will get results varying from 8th to 11th grade, so middle school to high school.

If you Google "is judicious in their approach a stock phrase?" you get:

"While "judicious in their approach" is not a stock phrase with a fixed, idiomatic meaning, it is a readily understandable and widely used way to describe a sensible and well-considered method. "

 

So not surprising that a English speaker that (at least) completed high school would know and use this word and phrase.

To be in awe of the word is a bit unusual I think.

[jippytum]

The odds are he will be much happier in Thailand than his lonely life in Cardiff. 

[Bruce Aussie]

14 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Don't know, it certainly worked for me,

I've had very pleasant female company for the past 16 years, rarely slept alone, and made several very good friends with whom I travelled all over SEA. During that time I've acquired a wife, a house and two great kids.

 

Currently sitting in my living room typing on my tablet, wife at her desk perusing lottery numbers, teen boy lying on the floor playing on his smartphone.

 

I see no reason other pensioners shouldn't find that lifestyle, if that's what they want.

Good on you. There is life outside Pattaya. I have been there once and that was enough. Glad I had my wife with me to remind me that chicks don't have dicks.😀

[Felton Jarvis]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

It's not my experience until I was locked up / detained in the View Talay 2B apartment last year when I "escaped" with the help of certain posters here and made it back to Australia 

View Talay 2B is where I live. How on earth were you "detained" and by whom?

[roo860]

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

The YouTuber in question is more or less correct ...when he said "you guys in the cold UK move to Pattaya,you"ll never be lonely "

The only thing is ...you need to have the $$$ to go to bars every night

You can sit on the steps of the 7/11 with a beer and a cheese toastie and check out all the tottie, it's all there on your doorstep.

[Snackbar]

Snigger, all in the mind

[K2938]

14 hours ago, simon43 said:

There are plenty of social activities in Pattaya that do not involve having a Thai partner - I heartily encourage these 'lonely' men to quit the UK and find a social life in Thailand...

What social activities are you thinking about here, please? 

[harryviking]

17 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I just watched a YouTube video of a Pattaya YouTuber ( from UK)  who is telling guys that are by themselves in their own country to retire early and move to Pattaya 

 

Then I read the sad comments on his YouTube ,some guys are saying they can't wait to move to Pattaya so they won't be lonely anymore , they're stuck in the UK by jobs etc 

 

One guy wrote ( Harold) (which I cried after reading ) is that he was a 60yo man who lives by himself with no family from Cardiff in the UK and he works Monday to Friday ,comes home at night to a empty house, cooks his dinner watches TV  and repeats it the next day 

Weekends he is lonely 

 

He says he can't wait to retire and move to Pattaya so he "doesn't feel lonely"anymore !!!

 

He will sell his house in Cardiff ,give up his government job early so he can move to Pattaya 

 

Now guys please ...we know in reality the YouTuber is lying , move to Pattaya and You won't be lonely....really ?

 

The reality is...

..the lonely guys move from the UK or Australia or wherever to Thailand and move into a 21sqm studio by themselves they work out all the "company" costs money ,no real friends, it all costs money and after a certain amount of time ...1 year? 2 years? work out the "lonilesness" is still ther

 

They find no friends in Pattaya ,they become lonely ,they then have regrets and after 1 year there back in the UK or Australia right 

Right !

Yes 

Thank me ....

I know ..I have studied this

Thailand is full of former lonely men that have lost everything and are even more lonely now! Stop the damn nonsense! Pattaya/Phuket and similar places are minefields and dangerous for these "Lonely men"! Ignorant and desperate! BAD COMBO!! Stay home! The chance of being "lucky" is, I guess, as good as winning the big lottery back home! Very low!! 😆😆

[saintdomingo]

7 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

People do come and go so you don't notice the leavers

Very good point.

My first night in Pattaya in 97 by pure chance I went in a bar of long-stay and regular visitor customers, predominantly UK. I became a regular and made many friends.. Slowly, over time people disperse some to marriage, some to other parts of Pattaya, Thailand, the UK or just succumb to old age and the inevitable. I still meet people from those early days  a core group still  exists, albeit in different premises now.

[Baht Simpson]

15 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

I've seen the most repulsive fat hairy manpigs with slim young girls on their arms in Pattaya. It' can't be that hard to meet women there.

When I was young and naive and first visited Thailand I saw an old man on a Harley Davidson with a young Thai girl riding pillion. I thought, how nice of grandpa to pick his granddaughter up from school.

[Cameroni]

10 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

When I was young and naive and first visited Thailand I saw an old man on a Harley Davidson with a young Thai girl riding pillion. I thought, how nice of grandpa to pick his granddaughter up from school.

 

I better not tell you what I thought when I saw a 320 pound hairy  guy with a mullet and moustache and a sleeveless with a slim young thai girl in tow.

 

Absolutely disgusting. Aesthetically speaking I mean.