Fun Quiz > Covid-19 mRNA Vax harm denial - At which stage are you?

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

What does this even mean? It's certainly not an answer as to why jabs are no longer recommended for the vast majority of populations.

Never heard of herd immunity?

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

What does this even mean? It's certainly not an answer as to why jabs are no longer recommended for the vast majority of populations.

Pretty sure a certain Thai family have some issues with pfizer

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

They are not 'side effects' Fred. They are direct effects.

 

It's all nonsense Fred bud. The body will look after itself.

Tell that to the millions who die every year from diseases and are healthy lifestyle livers. The body was designed by God to fail. The only ones on earth that live longer than most are ones living in the blue zones or following that lifestyle, and they are also getting vaccines. 

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Never heard of herd immunity?

I've been saying this for ages. This spike will settle down as infections spread and people gain natural immunity to reinfection. Got the thumbs down from some on here when I posted this on previous occasions and I wouldn't be surprised if your were one of them.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

5 hours ago, FlorC said:

Point 9 in graphs:

 

 

 

 

 

Ahhhh... the ever-predictable nonsense ploy of hard-core anti-vaxers like U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson and posters here to present this kind of false and misleading info.

 

The above charts don't show COVID vaccine deaths... They show REPORTS to a U.S. database (VAERS) that can be made by ANYONE claiming ANYTHING, without any evidence or actual proof or any actual medical findings.... 

 

The VAERS database itself clearly says that the reports made there are NOT confirmed and NOT any proof of any actual real link between  the death and the supposed cause being reported by whomever.  But it's nonetheless a long-time favorite of anti-vaxers who like to portray the VAERS numbers as real causes, which they're not.

 

From the federal government VAERS website:

Evaluating VAERS Data

 

When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.

 

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html

 

 

But hey, that doesn't stop the anti-vaxers from filling the gutters of the internet (Rumble, Bitchute, etc), and this forum, with this kind of false nonsense:

 

 

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The body was designed by God to fail.

[Stiddle Mump]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Tell that to the millions who die every year from diseases and are healthy lifestyle livers. The body was designed by God to fail. The only ones on earth that live longer than most are ones living in the blue zones or following that lifestyle, and they are also getting vaccines. 

People don't die from diseases Fred bud.

 

What is a disease even? Our bodies are adapted to do the right thing at all times. Easy for the uninformed to simply quote MSM and blame microbes, germs, bacteria and parasites. We have them all in abundance; but they are there to help us not to hurt us.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I've been saying this for ages. This spike will settle down as infections spread and people gain natural immunity to reinfection. Got the thumbs down from some on here when I posted this on previous occasions and I wouldn't be surprised if your were one of them.

I only give negatives when they are warranted. Unlike others here, I don't assume things, needing evidence, and I don't use thumbs down if a person makes a good reply. Some here actually think that 60+ expats haven't been around. Some of us don't live sheltered lives away from news. 

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Fake data.

 

Unscientifiv  nonsense. Unrigorous, unproven unscientific thinking.

 

You seem to be incapable of seeing the truth Richard mate. 

 

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I can find a hundred links, and have actually posted them here before, of how the Polio vaccine saves thousands. That you dismiss it means nothing.

 

 

Even when armed with airtight, independently verified, peer-reviewed studies - like those proving mRNA vaccines work - the anti-vax crowd’s response never fails to reveal their spectacular talent for willful ignorance:

 

“Fake data. Unscientific rubbish. Flawed methods. Lies. We just can’t handle the truth”.

 

Translation: I’m too stubborn and brainwashed to accept facts, so I’ll just pretend they don’t exist.

 

The Anti-vax version of “science” is nothing more than a tantrum in denial, a reflexive dismissal that fails to scratches the surface of critical thinking.

 

Trying to reason with an anti-vaxxer is like debating a brick wall - pointless, exhausting, and utterly meaningless. Because in their universe: If I don’t like the evidence, then the evidence must be fake. End of story as per 'stiddles' response... 

 

This is the anti-vax circus - where logic goes to die. Sure, it’s mildly entertaining for a moment, but far more troubling that such people actually exist. They believe the Earth is flat, the moon landings were faked, 9/11 was an inside job - delusions so deep they paint the whole crowd as nothing more than conspiracy-addled loons.

They used to parade around with placards screaming “The end is nigh”. Now, somewhat entertainingly, they clog social media and public spaces with their nonsense. It might even be funny if it weren’t so desperately tragic.

Because beneath the farce lies something darker: a genuine threat to reason, science, and public wellbeing, all drowned out by the noise of their wild, self-inflicted ignorance.

 

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

People don't die from diseases Fred bud.

 

Cancer.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

People don't die from diseases Fred bud.

 

What is a disease even? Our bodies are adapted to do the right thing at all times. Easy for the uninformed to simply quote MSM and blame microbes, germs, bacteria and parasites. We have them all in abundance; but they are there to help us not to hurt us.

Did you ever go to high school?

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

People don't die from diseases Fred bud.

 

What is a disease even? Our bodies are adapted to do the right thing at all times. Easy for the uninformed to simply quote MSM and blame microbes, germs, bacteria and parasites. We have them all in abundance; but they are there to help us not to hurt us.

 

 

People don’t die from diseases”? that’s not ignorance - it’s homicidal stupidity.

 

Your body isn’t some flawless temple; it’s a battlefield, and microbes are not your mates - they’re apex predators

 

You scoff at germs, bacteria, parasites like they’re misunderstood house pets. Tell that to the tens of millions who’ve dropped dead throughout history - cholera, tuberculosis, Ebola, plague, HIV, smallpox. These aren't “media inventions"....  These are real killers, not figments of the pharmaceutical imagination.... 

 

You’re not enlightened - you’re infected. Not by germs, but by hubris and ignorance so deep it borders on spiritual rot.

 

You’re the guy who’d get sepsis from a rusty nail and call it a “detox”....  You’d be coughing blood on your deathbed insisting your body’s just “doing the right thing”.... 

 

....  And worse, you’re not just a danger to yourself - you’re attempt to drag others with you, peddling this intellectual sewage like it’s sacred truth....  and that 'must' be contradicted, but to do so means even accepting your presence which itself is a blight on basic intellect. 

[Stiddle Mump]

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Cancer.

Ah yes 'cancer'. But can it be termed a disease?

 

To me a disease is something you catch and can pass on. The word has been attached to any number of complaints, sicknesses, illnesses and even hereditary stuff.

 

There are a few reasons why we get cancer. Although we can't 'catch' it.

[fredwiggy]

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Ah yes 'cancer'. But can it be termed a disease?

 

To me a disease is something you catch and can pass on. The word has been attached to any number of complaints, sicknesses, illnesses and even hereditary stuff.

 

There are a few reasons why we get cancer. Although we can't 'catch' it.

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[Stiddle Mump]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

People don’t die from diseases”? that’s not ignorance - it’s homicidal stupidity.

 

Your body isn’t some flawless temple; it’s a battlefield, and microbes are not your mates - they’re apex predators

 

You scoff at germs, bacteria, parasites like they’re misunderstood house pets. Tell that to the tens of millions who’ve dropped dead throughout history - cholera, tuberculosis, Ebola, plague, HIV, smallpox. These aren't “media inventions"....  These are real killers, not figments of the pharmaceutical imagination.... 

 

You’re not enlightened - you’re infected. Not by germs, but by hubris and ignorance so deep it borders on spiritual rot.

 

You’re the guy who’d get sepsis from a rusty nail and call it a “detox”....  You’d be coughing blood on your deathbed insisting your body’s just “doing the right thing”.... 

 

....  And worse, you’re not just a danger to yourself - you’re attempt to drag others with you, peddling this intellectual sewage like it’s sacred truth....  and that 'must' be contradicted, but to do so means even accepting your presence which itself is a blight on basic intellect. 

I think you are misinformed Richard mate.

 

For me; there is only one question. Is it true? Must of what you post, and indeed, most medical thinking is unscientifically untrue.

 

Go back through history and one can see thousands of 'facts', 'evidence' and 'truths' presented by the the medical industry that are simply nonsense. Vaccines are right up there.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Ah yes 'cancer'. But can it be termed a disease?

 

To me a disease is something you catch and can pass on. The word has been attached to any number of complaints, sicknesses, illnesses and even hereditary stuff.

 

There are a few reasons why we get cancer. Although we can't 'catch' it.

 

Yet more ignorance: 

 

Human papillomavirus (HPV) is a common and often silent sexually transmitted infection that can affect anyone. While many strains pass without consequence, high-risk types such as HPV 16 and 18 which are directly linked to serious cancers: cervical, anal, throat, penile.

 

So yes, you can, in a very real sense, catch cancer - or rather, the virus that causes it.

 

 

But of course, you’ll default to script: “Viruses don’t exist. They’ve never been isolated. It’s all a lie.” Flat-earth logic applied to medical science - because when faced with uncomfortable truths, it’s easier to scream “Fake!” than face reality.

 

.... And yes, there’s a safe, effective vaccine that prevents these cancers - a fact you’ll no doubt reject without evidence, as per usual. Because when science speaks, your only defence is to plug your ears and call it a conspiracy.

[Red Phoenix]

25 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Never heard of herd immunity?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Guess what folks, some 1.2 million American have died of COVID since the start of the pandemic, and they're still dying from COVID even now at the rate of about 1,000 per month.

 

Around the world, some 14 BILLION COVID vaccine doses (per the WHO) have been administered since the start of the pandemic, and related, confirmed vaccine-caused deaths have been EXCEEDINGLY RARE!!!

 

It's hardly surprising in the misinformation filled world in which we live that someone who's had a family member die from COVID, or anything else for that matter,  might be inclined to think maybe it had something to do with the COVID vaccine they received at some time in the past... And thus presto!  a VAERS report is created.

 

McGill University

Office for Science and Society

Separating Sense from Nonsense

 

"The COVID vaccines, administered over 13 billion times, are really, really safe. A massive review looking at 41 randomized controlled trials of 12 different COVID-19 vaccines on a total of nearly half a million participants concluded that there was probably little to no difference between most vaccines and placebos when it came to serious side effects. Yes, rare serious side effects do happen, and scientists are trying to figure out why, with their early clues misused by anti-vaccine activists to paint these vaccines as genocidal."

 

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-medical-critical-thinking/spikeopathy-speculative-fiction-contaminates-blood-supply

 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Red Phoenix said:

Doesn't work with me. I always go by facts, and not opinions. If there's evidence, I won't dismiss it. 

[frank83628]

20 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This is precisely what should have happened. It didn't because money was the prime motive. Not health care.

Johnston was going for herd immunity in the beginning, and whitty said in April 20 that they estimated the mortality rate at less than 1%, but it then became politicised and any deaths were blamed on whoever was in charge. Happened withTrump, he did what he was advised to do, but the Dems and media attacked him regardless. It then snowballed into  lockdwns, pfizer, madated shots and making money.

 

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Even when armed with airtight, independently verified, peer-reviewed studies

Like this ......

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus. Although the evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 is not a purposefully manipulated virus, we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/Lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fulltext

Statement in support of the scientists, public health professionals, and medical professionals of China combatting COVID-19 We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin. We support the call from the Director-General of WHO to promote scientific evidence and unity over misinformation and conjecture

 

[Red Phoenix]

34 minutes ago, transam said:

Keep trying, or better still, take up model aeroplane making, or stamp collecting.......🤭

Vade retro Transman 👺

[rumak]

29 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

You mean to the circus tent?

 

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[Stiddle Mump]

20 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

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What was COVID-19 then Fred bud? If you caught it, and became infected you were said to have a disease. A lot of words surrounding medicine and medical science are a bit vague. Some are changed to suit an agenda. To name a few; 'vaccine'. 'isolation', 'pandemic', 'epidemic'.

 

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Ah yes 'cancer'. But can it be termed a disease?

 

To me a disease is something you catch and can pass on. The word has been attached to any number of complaints, sicknesses, illnesses and even hereditary stuff.

 

There are a few reasons why we get cancer. Although we can't 'catch' it.

You must be kidding, very drunk or very stupid. Maybe all three.

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I think

 

“I think” - bold of you to assume that’s what just happened. What followed wasn’t thought, it was cognitive litter.

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I think you are misinformed Richard mate.

 

For me; there is only one question. Is it true? Must of what you post, and indeed, most medical thinking is unscientifically untrue.

 

Go back through history and one can see thousands of 'facts', 'evidence' and 'truths' presented by the the medical industry that are simply nonsense. Vaccines are right up there.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

The one thing that might be true with your otherwise invalid replies, is that nature surely might have the answers to cure most everything besides the aging process that has everyone eventually dying from cell degeneration. That scientists and medical teams are constantly looking for these and sometimes being stopped by greed in pharma companies, is evidence enough, as vaccines and medicines have saved many millions of lives. Yes, they might have hurt some, because anything that combats a disease or virus has to kill it, and might weaken us along with it. That we're still alive is enough, at least for now. We aren't meant to live forever, as all believers in God understand more, hoping there's a better permanent life afterwards. 

[Red Phoenix]

30 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Tell that to the millions who die every year from diseases and are healthy lifestyle livers. The body was designed by God to fail. The only ones on earth that live longer than most are ones living in the blue zones or following that lifestyle, and they are also getting vaccines. 

??? 

[FlorC]

26 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

Ahhhh... the ever-predictable nonsense ploy of hard-core anti-vaxers like U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson and posters here to present this kind of false and misleading info.

 

The above charts don't show COVID vaccine deaths... They show REPORTS to a U.S. database (VAERS) that can be made by ANYONE claiming ANYTHING, without any evidence or actual proof or any actual medical findings.... 

 

The VAERS database itself clearly says that the reports made there are NOT confirmed and NOT any proof of any actual real link between  the death and the supposed cause being reported by whomever.  But it's nonetheless a long-time favorite of anti-vaxers who like to portray the VAERS numbers as real causes, which they're not.

 

From the federal government VAERS website:

Evaluating VAERS Data

 

When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.

 

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html

 

 

But hey, that doesn't stop the anti-vaxers from filling the gutters of the internet (Rumble, Bitchute, etc), and this forum, with this kind of false nonsense:

 

 

VAERS  database is usually under reported. 

But ok , you believe what you want to believe.

 

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

What was COVID-19 then Fred bud? If you caught it, and became infected you were said to have a disease. A lot of words surrounding medicine and medical science are a bit vague. Some are changed to suit an agenda. To mame a few; 'vaccine'. 'isolation', 'pandemic', 'epidemic'.

 

It's one of those things you call fake, a disease causes by the Sars Cov 2 Virus.