fredwiggy Posted Friday at 07:34 AM Posted Friday at 07:34 AM 9 minutes ago, pacovl46 said: I used to do squats all the time…. As I did with very heavy weights, and high reps, but in my prime, I never did more than 40 reps in one set, usually 1 to 20, and when you finish a set of that many reps, you are feeling it. No one can do 200 reps without damage, even young, as this isn't the only incident in Thailand where a teacher make a student pay by doing squats or squat thrusts. They pass the students even if they fail here so this is uncalled for in any instance. Fire the dickhead and make sure he's blacklisted. 1
cdemundo Posted Friday at 07:46 AM Posted Friday at 07:46 AM 24 minutes ago, pacovl46 said: I used to do squats all the time…. Great. Do 200 today and let us know how it goes.
pacovl46 Posted Friday at 07:52 AM Posted Friday at 07:52 AM 2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: As I did with very heavy weights, and high reps, but in my prime, I never did more than 40 reps in one set, usually 1 to 20, and when you finish a set of that many reps, you are feeling it. No one can do 200 reps without damage, even young, as this isn't the only incident in Thailand where a teacher make a student pay by doing squats or squat thrusts. They pass the students even if they fail here so this is uncalled for in any instance. Fire the dickhead and make sure he's blacklisted. There will definitely be damage after 200 squats, absolutely no doubt about that. But, I highly doubt, that the student was able to do 200 in a row with no breaks in between. That’s pretty much impossible. Will 200 really result in liver damage? I’m not saying it’s impossible, but 200 squats seems too low a number. Back in the day I bought Arnold’s bodybuilding Bible and then went down to the fitness center to work out for the first time in ages. I used his beginner training plan that’s mentioned in the book and used the recommended weight and did a full workout. Following that I’ve spent the 4 most excruciating weeks of my life. My arms were locked and my legs barely worked. Turning around in my sleep used to wake me up for the first 2 weeks because of the pain. Needless to say my muscles were f.cked! But I didn’t sustain any liver damage and I think it’s safe to say that more of my muscles were wrecked that that of this student because I trained my arms as well that day. But then again, just because it didn’t happen to me, doesn’t mean it can’t happen to someone else. For the legs I did 5 sets of 15 repetitions, but I used 20 kilos of weight plus the weight of the bar, which either another 10 kg, which all together was almost half my body weight back then.
pacovl46 Posted Friday at 07:56 AM Posted Friday at 07:56 AM 8 minutes ago, cdemundo said: Great. Do 200 today and let us know how it goes. Back in the day I bought Arnold’s bodybuilding Bible and then went down to the fitness center to work out for the first time in ages. I used his beginner training plan that’s mentioned in the book and used the recommended weight and did a full workout. Following that I’ve spent the 4 most excruciating weeks of my life. My arms were locked and my legs barely worked. Turning around in my sleep used to wake me up for the first 2 weeks because of the pain. Needless to say my muscles were f.cked! But I didn’t sustain any liver damage and I think it’s safe to say that more of my muscles were wrecked that that of this student because I trained my arms as well that day. But then again, just because it didn’t happen to me, doesn’t mean it can’t happen to someone else. For the legs I did 5 sets of 15 repetitions, but I used 20 kilos of weight plus the weight of the bar, which was at least another 10 kg, which all together was almost half my body weight back then. So, I have a pretty good idea what 200 squats must feel like!
fredwiggy Posted Friday at 07:56 AM Posted Friday at 07:56 AM 1 minute ago, pacovl46 said: There will definitely be damage after 200 squats, absolutely no doubt about that. But, I highly doubt, that the student was able to do 200 in a row with no breaks in between. That’s pretty much impossible. Will 200 really result in liver damage? I’m not saying it’s impossible, but 200 squats seems too low a number. Back in the day I bought Arnold’s bodybuilding Bible and then went down to the fitness center to work out for the first time in ages. I used his beginner training plan that’s mentioned in the book and used the recommended weight and did a full workout. Following that I’ve spent the 4 most excruciating weeks of my life. My arms were locked and my legs barely worked. Turning around in my sleep used to wake me up for the first 2 weeks because of the pain. Needless to say my muscles were f.cked! But I didn’t sustain any liver damage and I think it’s safe to say that more of my muscles were wrecked that that of this student because I trained my arms as well that day. But then again, just because it didn’t happen to me, doesn’t mean it can’t happen to someone else. For the legs I did 5 sets of 15 repetitions, but I used 20 kilos of weight plus the weight of the bar, which either another 10 kg, which all together was almost half my body weight back then. I'm paying for all the squats I did heavy from age 17 until around 56. Never listened to the older gym men who told me it would come back and get me later. Hurt my knees and hips and also shoulders with the heavy benches and presses. Live and learn. 1 1
pacovl46 Posted Friday at 08:02 AM Posted Friday at 08:02 AM 3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: I'm paying for all the squats I did heavy from age 17 until around 56. Never listened to the older gym men who told me it would come back and get me later. Hurt my knees and hips and also shoulders with the heavy benches and presses. Live and learn. Look at Ronnie Coleman. He went real heavy all the time and is massively paying the price. He’s a wreck. His spine is fused more or less completely, double hip replacement, copious amounts of pain killers on a daily basis, etc. The human body is just not meant to carry weight that heavy! There’s also certain exercises that will wreck you, like the machine leg press for example, that one is poison for your lower discs.
fredwiggy Posted Friday at 08:16 AM Posted Friday at 08:16 AM 10 minutes ago, pacovl46 said: Look at Ronnie Coleman. He went real heavy all the time and is massively paying the price. He’s a wreck. His spine is fused more or less completely, double hip replacement, copious amounts of pain killers on a daily basis, etc. The human body is just not meant to carry weight that heavy! There’s also certain exercises that will wreck you, like the machine leg press for example, that one is poison for your lower discs. Yep, I didn't listen. I worked out like I was competing, even though I didn't care to. Full squats with extreme weight just to see what I could do. That leg press I did over a 1000 lbs in it. Luckily my lower back was strong, although I do feel a few strains when I doing things like bending over to pick something up light. I was never a huge person but like you mentioned, even those really big guys you see walking all crooked when they're in their 60"s. 1
cdemundo Posted Friday at 08:47 AM Posted Friday at 08:47 AM 1 hour ago, pacovl46 said: Back in the day I bought Arnold’s bodybuilding Bible and then went down to the fitness center to work out for the first time in ages. I used his beginner training plan that’s mentioned in the book and used the recommended weight and did a full workout. Following that I’ve spent the 4 most excruciating weeks of my life. My arms were locked and my legs barely worked. Turning around in my sleep used to wake me up for the first 2 weeks because of the pain. Needless to say my muscles were f.cked! But I didn’t sustain any liver damage and I think it’s safe to say that more of my muscles were wrecked that that of this student because I trained my arms as well that day. But then again, just because it didn’t happen to me, doesn’t mean it can’t happen to someone else. For the legs I did 5 sets of 15 repetitions, but I used 20 kilos of weight plus the weight of the bar, which was at least another 10 kg, which all together was almost half my body weight back then. So, I have a pretty good idea what 200 squats must feel like! But you're not gonna do 200 of them now them are you?
kingstonkid Posted Friday at 08:57 AM Posted Friday at 08:57 AM On 6/12/2025 at 2:45 PM, spidermike007 said: This teacher went way over the line. In general I think teachers (and parents) should be able to impose reassonable discipline on kids who are out of control. This was not reasonable. I suggest if the school system is unwilling to impose a harsh penalty on this teacher, the parents or the family should. I agree with you to a point however, schools have to have some sort of discipline. There needs to be a code that is set and the parents and teachers understand it and explain it to students. Right now, Somchai can tell the teacher to F off and call him or her anything under the sun, and nothing is done. When I was in school a friend of mines mother stated that if her sons got he strap she would beat the hellout of the principal We never go the strap from him but man did he come up with eays to piss us off and get our attention. Parents have no responsibility now, they send Somchai to day care at the age of 2, and then he leaves daycare at age 18 If the school has a problem with Somchai they do not want to hear it. Set the rules set what is reasonable and what will happen. Then let the parents handle it when he is sent home. or complains. The hardest group to teach is the Mat students a that are in /10-/15 these kids know that they will finish at 16 no matter what they do. Bring in trades training for them so they can start to learn something that interests then and includes things like math and science. 1
KireB Posted Friday at 09:36 AM Posted Friday at 09:36 AM On 6/12/2025 at 1:35 PM, newbee2022 said: Do you have any proof? I doubt it Plenty. Are you a drinker or smoker? Do you teach?
newbee2022 Posted Friday at 11:06 AM Posted Friday at 11:06 AM 1 hour ago, KireB said: Plenty. Are you a drinker or smoker? Do you teach? I can't see any connection. I asked you if you have proof of alcohol drinking or smoking teachers during their working time? What is so difficult to understand??
baipaibkk Posted Friday at 12:31 PM Posted Friday at 12:31 PM On 6/12/2025 at 2:11 PM, Travel Dude said: Whatever the reason, corporal punishment is against the law. Lucky it wasn't my son as this teacher would now be xxx... Yes i want help you. These people should be locked away.
jvs Posted Friday at 12:42 PM Posted Friday at 12:42 PM On 6/12/2025 at 1:35 PM, NorthernRyland said: I didn't know doing too many squats could be that dangerous. For an untrained person it can be.
Felton Jarvis Posted Friday at 12:47 PM Posted Friday at 12:47 PM This jackass should be fired and then jailed. Unfit to teach in any capacity.
pacovl46 Posted Friday at 03:13 PM Posted Friday at 03:13 PM 6 hours ago, cdemundo said: But you're not gonna do 200 of them now them are you? No, I won't, but neither will you! I hope this will get you through the night!
Magictoad Posted Friday at 03:18 PM Posted Friday at 03:18 PM The answer is fairly simple: the teacher must do 200 squats in the manner of his pupil or lose his job and license to teach.
Magictoad Posted Friday at 03:23 PM Posted Friday at 03:23 PM On 6/12/2025 at 4:59 PM, CLW said: Shouldn't a normal healthy person be able to do 200 squats? Pretty sure the student had some underlying disease The 'child' in question was probably of normal health BUT if he or she did have an underlying disease THEN all the more reason not to punish the kid.
cdemundo Posted Friday at 03:56 PM Posted Friday at 03:56 PM 41 minutes ago, pacovl46 said: No, I won't, but neither will you! I hope this will get you through the night! Thing is, you said this: "I’m sorry, but I find it hard to believe that “only” 200 squats will cause that."
Bundooman Posted yesterday at 12:23 AM Posted yesterday at 12:23 AM On 6/12/2025 at 7:41 AM, KireB said: There are also many foreign teachers, reaking to cigarettes and chugging Leo's during lunch breaks, that shouldn't be near children Speculative childishness. If this is the case - name at least 4 instances of this happening, where and when - with these 'many' foreigner teachers. Where is your supporting evidence of this seemingly silly post and how do you actually know that? Otherwise, your post is just nonsense.
KireB Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM 29 minutes ago, Bundooman said: Speculative childishness. If this is the case - name at least 4 instances of this happening, where and when - with these 'many' foreigner teachers. Where is your supporting evidence of this seemingly silly post and how do you actually know that? Otherwise, your post is just nonsense. So I guess that you are a teacher reaking to cigarettes and chugging big Leo's like it is holy water. Supporting evidence? Are you mental?
KireB Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM 13 hours ago, newbee2022 said: I can't see any connection. I asked you if you have proof of alcohol drinking or smoking teachers during their working time? What is so difficult to understand?? So you dont want to answer these relevant questions? Are you one of the thousands of foreign 'teachers' with alcohol problems in Thailand?
newbee2022 Posted yesterday at 01:43 AM Posted yesterday at 01:43 AM 45 minutes ago, KireB said: So you dont want to answer these relevant questions? Are you one of the thousands of foreign 'teachers' with alcohol problems in Thailand? That's not what you - obviously only pretending to get attention - promised to show: Alc Drinking teachers during work time.... Ok, you got my attention before. Now Good-bye
Funkymover Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago On 6/12/2025 at 10:11 AM, dinsdale said: So from this you conclude that dialysis or a transplant will probably be needed. yes mr know it all, because mr know it all and someone who does not like others giving their opinion . because only he knows anything and everything .. mr know it all,, they stated the student's urine turned coke-coloured due to acute kidney problems. which mr know it all, is a sign of a stage of kidney damage, because the kidney is not filtering properly , mr know it all, so mr know it all, if he has kidney disease,, there is no cure, but as they stated and you love to point out in glee,, it is manageable , which is true for some stages of kidney disease. so mr know it all, it means now,if he has kidney damage he has to change his life style a lot, to try and prevent it getting worse, because mr know it all , if he does not,, it will get worse and he could end up needing a kidney transplant or dialysis ,that mr know it all, is why they say it is manageable , and because he is young mr know it all, he has to do this every day for the rest of his life , so he has to MANAGE it, so mr know it all, lets hope he does not have kidney damage and there for disney disease, and lets hope, you are now more educated on chronic kidney disease, and of course lets hope mr know it all, you might learn some common decency and allow people to give their opinions, even if they are not the same as your arrogant selfs . have a nice day mr know it all
pacovl46 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 22 hours ago, cdemundo said: Thing is, you said this: "I’m sorry, but I find it hard to believe that “only” 200 squats will cause that." Yes, so? I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled to disagree. We're going in circles. I stand by what I've posted and that's the end of this discussion for me.
dinsdale Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Funkymover said: yes mr know it all, because mr know it all and someone who does not like others giving their opinion . because only he knows anything and everything .. mr know it all,, they stated the student's urine turned coke-coloured due to acute kidney problems. which mr know it all, is a sign of a stage of kidney damage, because the kidney is not filtering properly , mr know it all, so mr know it all, if he has kidney disease,, there is no cure, but as they stated and you love to point out in glee,, it is manageable , which is true for some stages of kidney disease. so mr know it all, it means now,if he has kidney damage he has to change his life style a lot, to try and prevent it getting worse, because mr know it all , if he does not,, it will get worse and he could end up needing a kidney transplant or dialysis ,that mr know it all, is why they say it is manageable , and because he is young mr know it all, he has to do this every day for the rest of his life , so he has to MANAGE it, so mr know it all, lets hope he does not have kidney damage and there for disney disease, and lets hope, you are now more educated on chronic kidney disease, and of course lets hope mr know it all, you might learn some common decency and allow people to give their opinions, even if they are not the same as your arrogant selfs . have a nice day mr know it all Wow!!!!!! You're an adult? There is absolutely no talk about permanent kidney damage or kidney disease in the article. Get a grip. Simply says it's being managed and observed. You're rant is off the charts. As for coke coloured urine this can also be due to dehydration. Lots of squats in Thailand's weather is sure to cause this. Renal failure did not occur. Any permanent damage is pure speculation on you part.
dinsdale Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago On 6/13/2025 at 3:57 PM, kingstonkid said: The hardest group to teach is the Mat students a that are in /10-/15 these kids know that they will finish at 16 no matter what they do. M6 students are 17/18 years old. I've taught every level except P1, P3 and K2. All different. Babies to basically young adults. Impossible to generalise about the "hardest group to teach" IMHO. Teaching is teaching and every level and every class within that level is different. Some great and some a not.
rtco Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago How about 6 of the best with a 1/2 thick cane? That was my punishment at boarding school, and it left large welts on your backside, but you took it.
Coxy Posted 43 minutes ago Posted 43 minutes ago This is all too common and the teacher normally walks away with a slap on the wrists and a few wahs this teacher needs to be fired and pension revoked, that’s all most are interested not in education am lucky to afford to be able to send my daughter to private school
harryviking Posted 9 minutes ago Posted 9 minutes ago On 6/12/2025 at 12:54 AM, webfact said: Picture courtesy of Thai Rath A teacher in Bangkok faces backlash after punishing a student with 200 squats, resulting in kidney issues and severe muscle breakdown. On 11th June 2025, a popular Facebook page, Drama-addict, shared a distressing story involving a high school student in Bangkok. The student was punished by a teacher with 200 squats for late homework submission. This led to severe leg pain and, within days, the student's urine turned coke-coloured due to acute kidney problems. Doctors diagnosed the student with rhabdomyolysis, a condition where muscle injury causes muscle cell content to leak into the bloodstream, potentially leading to kidney failure or even death if untreated. Fortunately, the student’s kidney damage is currently manageable, with doctors closely monitoring the situation. The doctor involved urged a reconsideration of such severe punishments, highlighting the unnecessary risks they pose, not only in schools but also in military settings. This sparked considerable social media outrage, with users calling for the teacher's dismissal and critiquing outdated disciplinary methods. Many comments suggested alternative punishment methods, such as identifying underlying issues for incomplete homework rather than resorting to physical punishment. The consensus is clear: punitive measures like these are unacceptable in today’s educational and social context. Image thanks to Facebook Drama-addict Adapted by ASEAN Now from Thai Rath 2025-06-12 This is torture!!! That teacher must be jailed for many years! Also, make sure he never can teach children again! What a brain-dead scumbag!
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