Or are they all just a bunch of petulant adult man-children? Serious question...

Yes

some do some don't 

when you are fluent in Thai and go to school here, then i'll take the question seriously.

 

I just saw a Russian screaming about something in Pattaya a 2 a.m.   Time for a new thread?   

11 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

Or are they all just a bunch of petulant adult man-children? Serious question...

No different than the immature adults in the country that you’re from.

2 minutes ago, Quentin Zen said:

when you are fluent in Thai and go to school here, then i'll take the question seriously.

 

I just saw a Russian screaming about something in Pattaya a 2 a.m.   Time for a new thread?   

Do you expect any less from a Russian?

Well at the gym it seems like many do the following:

1) Look at themselves in the mirror  at least once every 5 minutes

2) Take a selfie and then more selfies

3)  After walking on the threadmill like a grandma for 10 minutes  they act like they had just run a marathon

4)  Not wipe down gym equipment after use. But actually why would they need to wipe it down because they do not sweat.  It takes some level of intensity to perspire while working out.  

5) Sit on gym equipment while looking at their phones while others are politely waiting. I thought going to the gym was to get a workout and not working out their phones.

6) Obviously this type of behavior does not apply to all Thai men but I have witnessed it many times during the years. 

Or I am the weird one because I leave my phone in the locker.  The gyms I belonged to in the  US prohibited phones on the gym floor. Oh heck in the eyes of most Thai people I am weird one.  

 

I doubt this kind of behavior would be tolerated at a Muay Thai dojo but the mid to high level gyms I have worked out at this is rather common amongst Thai men.

 

 

4 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Well at the gym it seems like many do the following:

1) Look at themselves in the mirror  at least once every 5 minutes

2) Take a selfie and then more selfies

3)  After walking on the threadmill like a grandma for 10 minutes  they act like they had just run a marathon

4)  Not wipe down gym equipment after use. But actually why would they need to wipe it down because they do not sweat.  It takes some level of intensity to perspire while working out.  

5) Sit on gym equipment while looking at their phones while others are politely waiting. I thought going to the gym was to get a workout and not working out their phones.

6) Obviously this type of behavior does not apply to all Thai men but I have witnessed it many times during the years. 

Or I am the weird one because I leave my phone in the locker.  The gyms I belonged to in the  US prohibited phones on the gym floor. Oh heck in the eyes of most Thai people I am weird one.  

 

I doubt this kind of behavior would be tolerated at a Muay Thai dojo but the mid to high level gyms I have worked out at this is rather common amongst Thai men.

 

 

A good description of many Westerners 

19 minutes ago, novacova said:

A good description of many Westerners 

Not at the gyms I have been to in LOS.  Most foreigners (except for the Chinese visitors) actually come in for a focused workout. No time for sending emojis or taking selfies. 

3 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Not at the gyms I have been to in LOS.  Most foreigners (except for the Chinese visitors) actually come in for a focused workout. No time for sending emojis or taking selfies. 

What other people do with their time seems to bother you and makes you feel insecure, where are you from anyway, Australia by any chance?

29 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Well at the gym it seems like many do the following:

1) Look at themselves in the mirror  at least once every 5 minutes

2) Take a selfie and then more selfies

3)  After walking on the threadmill like a grandma for 10 minutes  they act like they had just run a marathon

4)  Not wipe down gym equipment after use. But actually why would they need to wipe it down because they do not sweat.  It takes some level of intensity to perspire while working out.  

5) Sit on gym equipment while looking at their phones while others are politely waiting. I thought going to the gym was to get a workout and not working out their phones.

6) Obviously this type of behavior does not apply to all Thai men but I have witnessed it many times during the years. 

Or I am the weird one because I leave my phone in the locker.  The gyms I belonged to in the  US prohibited phones on the gym floor. Oh heck in the eyes of most Thai people I am weird one.  

 

I doubt this kind of behavior would be tolerated at a Muay Thai dojo but the mid to high level gyms I have worked out at this is rather common amongst Thai men.

 

 

Most folks have their music on phones so there's that. I belong to a higher end gym so don't witness what you do.

If they do then they certainly hide it well!

39 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Well at the gym it seems like many do the following:

1) Look at themselves in the mirror  at least once every 5 minutes

2) Take a selfie and then more selfies

3)  After walking on the threadmill like a grandma for 10 minutes  they act like they had just run a marathon

4)  Not wipe down gym equipment after use. But actually why would they need to wipe it down because they do not sweat.  It takes some level of intensity to perspire while working out.  

5) Sit on gym equipment while looking at their phones while others are politely waiting. I thought going to the gym was to get a workout and not working out their phones.

6) Obviously this type of behavior does not apply to all Thai men but I have witnessed it many times during the years. 

Or I am the weird one because I leave my phone in the locker.  The gyms I belonged to in the  US prohibited phones on the gym floor. Oh heck in the eyes of most Thai people I am weird one.  

 

I doubt this kind of behavior would be tolerated at a Muay Thai dojo but the mid to high level gyms I have worked out at this is rather common amongst Thai men.

 

 

I understand the immaturity shown here by locals, quick to attack and use weapons readily, but what you've described I've also seen in US gyms for the 44 years I trained in them. Many if not most who go to gyms spend more time on their phones than training. Some think they own the gym and must move aside when they want to use equipment, not understanding they're just another member who has equal rights.

The problem is not Thailand-specific.

People will behave as they wish regardless of location.

I don't think western men are much better.

When I was a kid, my older siblings bullied me.

Now, it's not bullying, but there's always a whiff of one-upmanship. 

Which to me is a sign of arrested development.

So most human beings have arrested development. 

 

10 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I don't think western men are much better.

When I was a kid, my older siblings bullied me.

Now, it's not bullying, but there's always a whiff of one-upmanship. 

Which to me is a sign of arrested development.

So most human beings have arrested development. 

 

Many are growing up with no fathers in the household, or ones that don't teach their children respect for life. Bullies come from bullies. One upmanships are different. Normal competition in a household comes from jealousy that is normal growing up, kids thinking their parents love the other more. This happens all over the world but more in places where fathers aren't available and aren't held accountable for children they make. Children join gangs because they don't have a good dad to teach them how to relate to others without violence or control. They look up to other children who are bigger or tougher and mirror their behavior. Children grow up here too fast because of these missing dads, and you can see what happens in the daily news, how they attack others 5-10 against one, using weapons and kicking while down. No respect for life.

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

Not at the gyms I have been to in LOS.  Most foreigners (except for the Chinese visitors) actually come in for a focused workout. No time for sending emojis or taking selfies. 

Who cares. Gyms are overated 

36 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I don't think western men are much better.

When I was a kid, my older siblings bullied me.

Now, it's not bullying, but there's always a whiff of one-upmanship. 

Which to me is a sign of arrested development.

So most human beings have arrested development. 

 

The saddest human I known is 53yo and French. He has no life skills. 

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

Or I am the weird one because I leave my phone in the locker.  The gyms I belonged to in the  US prohibited phones on the gym floor. Oh heck in the eyes of most Thai people I am weird one.  

From the US are we.

You voted in a president that many outside the US are wondering about his emotional maturity?

Twice.

 

it is not just Thais who think you are weird.

27 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

This happens all over the world but more in places where fathers aren't available

Haven’t you got kids with different women none of who you live with in different continents?

How could you possibly be available to them? 
 

Love your lack of self awareness Fred. 
It is cute.

 

31 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Children grow up here too fast because of these missing dads, and you can see what happens in the daily news, how they attack others 5-10 against one, using weapons and kicking while down.

Says the missing father from the land of daily mass shootings.

48 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

The problem is not Thailand-specific.

People will behave as they wish regardless of location.

People are like animals. They behave according to local environment. Most Thais are friendly due to Buddhism. Most farangs are angry due to atheism, war mongering explorer culture and feeling superior to other races. Westerners spent 300 years as explorers. They are racist war mongers.

 

 

2 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Well at the gym it seems like many do the following:

1) Look at themselves in the mirror  at least once every 5 minutes

2) Take a selfie and then more selfies

3)  After walking on the threadmill like a grandma for 10 minutes  they act like they had just run a marathon

4)  Not wipe down gym equipment after use. But actually why would they need to wipe it down because they do not sweat.  It takes some level of intensity to perspire while working out.  

5) Sit on gym equipment while looking at their phones while others are politely waiting. I thought going to the gym was to get a workout and not working out their phones.

6) Obviously this type of behavior does not apply to all Thai men but I have witnessed it many times during the years. 

Or I am the weird one because I leave my phone in the locker.  The gyms I belonged to in the  US prohibited phones on the gym floor. Oh heck in the eyes of most Thai people I am weird one.  

 

I doubt this kind of behavior would be tolerated at a Muay Thai dojo but the mid to high level gyms I have worked out at this is rather common amongst Thai men.

Sounds like a self absorbed Western prima-donna to me. Thais don't go to gyms, they go to work.

5 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

some do some don't 

 

Deep. Very deep, man. Like the big Lebowski type of deep, 

 

5 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Well at the gym it seems like many do the following:

1) Look at themselves in the mirror  at least once every 5 minutes

2) Take a selfie and then more selfies

3)  After walking on the threadmill like a grandma for 10 minutes  they act like they had just run a marathon

4)  Not wipe down gym equipment after use. But actually why would they need to wipe it down because they do not sweat.  It takes some level of intensity to perspire while working out.  

5) Sit on gym equipment while looking at their phones while others are politely waiting. I thought going to the gym was to get a workout and not working out their phones.

6) Obviously this type of behavior does not apply to all Thai men but I have witnessed it many times during the years. 

Or I am the weird one because I leave my phone in the locker.  The gyms I belonged to in the  US prohibited phones on the gym floor. Oh heck in the eyes of most Thai people I am weird one.  

 

I doubt this kind of behavior would be tolerated at a Muay Thai dojo but the mid to high level gyms I have worked out at this is rather common amongst Thai men.

 

You are describing most gyms.

 

2 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Sounds like a self absorbed Western prima-donna to me. Thais don't go to gyms, they go to work.

 

My friends go to gyms. They also do not smoke, or use drugs.

6 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

Or are they all just a bunch of petulant adult man-children? Serious question...

Do you have anything between your ears?

6 hours ago, novacova said:

A good description of many Westerners 

especially the type who frequent gyms

people are d🙊cks everywhere

4 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Says the missing father from the land of daily mass shootings.

Missing from what? My children in the US are adults, with families and careers. Thailand is also a land of almost daily mass shootings.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Missing from what? My children in the US are adults, with families and careers. Thailand is also a land of almost daily mass shootings.

Did the Thai books you read discuss this?

4 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

From the US are we.

You voted in a president that many outside the US are wondering about his emotional maturity?

Twice.

 

it is not just Thais who think you are weird.

Did not vote for Trump.