7 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

You misunderstood what the that vile individual stated

 

What did you mean then?

4 hours ago, actonion said:

yes i do  but u dont

 

 

Nobody does.

On 7/20/2025 at 9:36 AM, nauseus said:

 

Which lesson?

Here you go.  A history lesson.  Hope it's helpful.

 

https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about/nazi-germany-1933-39/beginning-of-persecution.html

10 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Here you go.  A history lesson.  Hope it's helpful.

 

https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about/nazi-germany-1933-39/beginning-of-persecution.html

 

Of course it's not helpful. You are classifying UK citizens who are increasingly concerned, especially for the safety of their kids, as Nazis.

 

A sick non-comparison.

12 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Of course it's not helpful. You are classifying UK citizens who are increasingly concerned, especially for the safety of their kids, as Nazis.

 

A sick non-comparison.

I didn't mean to.  I meant to show how the anti-immigrant climate that existed in Germany in 1930s led to the rise of the Nazis.  I'm sure some of those demonstrating in the UK have genuine concerns, but those who are winding them up and encouraging the violence have a very different agenda.

 

Although 9 years old now, this article is worth a read:

 

https://hazards.colorado.edu/article/are-muslims-the-new-jews-the-1930s-refugee-crisis-revisited

55 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I didn't mean to.  I meant to show how the anti-immigrant climate that existed in Germany in 1930s led to the rise of the Nazis.  I'm sure some of those demonstrating in the UK have genuine concerns, but those who are winding them up and encouraging the violence have a very different agenda.

 

Although 9 years old now, this article is worth a read:

 

https://hazards.colorado.edu/article/are-muslims-the-new-jews-the-1930s-refugee-crisis-revisited

 

 

Those concerned in the UK have been wound up by successive UK governments ignoring their own election pledges regarding immigration.  

On 7/18/2025 at 8:09 AM, quake said:

 

I do feel a little bit sorry for Germany.

Totally over run now.

I think these two people are responsible for the start of most of the problems.

of the uk and Germany. 

 

 

 

It's a little harsh blaming Merkel.

 

Outside of the horror show that is Israel and the Palestinian Bantustans. The main cause of the current problems goes back to Blair/Bush and the WoT. The idea that the Middle East would become some wonderful oasis of democracy was laughably naïve. Plus the war in Afghanistan; that somehow bombing Afghanistan into the stone age would undo the prior lunacy of the USA's backing and arming the Mujahideen against Russia. Cameron continued this stupidity with the toppling of Gadhafi and the push to remove Assad. Without the strong men the power vacuum has created chaos and allowed the rise of the extremists and the exodus of people looking for a life without war.

 

3 hours ago, Stocky said:

It's a little harsh blaming Merkel.

 

Outside of the horror show that is Israel and the Palestinian Bantustans. The main cause of the current problems goes back to Blair/Bush and the WoT. The idea that the Middle East would become some wonderful oasis of democracy was laughably naïve. Plus the war in Afghanistan; that somehow bombing Afghanistan into the stone age would undo the prior lunacy of the USA's backing and arming the Mujahideen against Russia. Cameron continued this stupidity with the toppling of Gadhafi and the push to remove Assad. Without the strong men the power vacuum has created chaos and allowed the rise of the extremists and the exodus of people looking for a life without war.

 

 

Yes,  Bush should have been the third pic.

Merkel was not responsible for inflaming the middle east,  that was Bush / Blair, the pair of hand jobs.

But Merkel did fling the doors open to all the asylum seekers, refugees.

and economic migrants ( free loaders)

 

 

 

22 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Nobody does.

have u asked?

On 7/20/2025 at 6:44 PM, Cory1848 said:

I’ve read several books on the Crusades, which were a series of specific military actions; if you want to call the expulsion of Muslims from Spain, or the defense of Austria against Ottoman invasions, “Crusades,” that’s up to you, but a historian will not know what you’re talking about.

 

“Unwoke”??? What the heck does that mean? Your use of such a stupid word tells me where you get most of your information from. History is history: and you’re the only one who seems offended here. Not to mention racist.

That you dont know what 'unwoke' means and that you think it is a stupid word, says a lot about where you are coming from.  What is also clear is that like most woke lefities you dont read/listen, but respond with emotions as soon as you think you 'understand' what someone is saying.

 

I said that in the 'modern' context (or words to that effect) that The Crusades is seen only as the invasion of the Holy Lands. However, in the past the events that started basically in France and then Austria in the 8th century, where the beginning of the 'crusade' to liberate Europe from Muslim rule and it took hundreds of years. In fact it was almost 1000 years from the 5th to the 15th Century when Islam was extremely 'involved' in Europe - a period of time that is often called the 'Dark Ages'. Surely they taught that in your schools?

 

The Dark Ages basically started (no exact date like most big things) when the Roman Empire finally and fully collapsed in 5th Century. A few hundred years later of 'dark ages' and the Islamic forces started conquering major parts of Europe.  The 'crusade' by Christians to drive Islam out of Europe, was what convinced the then disparate Christian Nations to join forces to drive Islam out, or be conquered and their Religion removed.  Nothing creates impetus and commonality amongst Religious peoples than the threat of destruction of their faith. It was NOT an immediate event - in came and went in waves - culminating in the invasions of the Holy Lands and the eventual removal of Islam from power in many parts of Europe. 

Civil war in europe doesnt get the leftists talking. Now if you make a thread about civil war in the US, that will explode even though the same bullcrap gets said every day

15 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

That you dont know what 'unwoke' means and that you think it is a stupid word, says a lot about where you are coming from.  What is also clear is that like most woke lefities you dont read/listen, but respond with emotions as soon as you think you 'understand' what someone is saying.

 

I said that in the 'modern' context (or words to that effect) that The Crusades is seen only as the invasion of the Holy Lands. However, in the past the events that started basically in France and then Austria in the 8th century, where the beginning of the 'crusade' to liberate Europe from Muslim rule and it took hundreds of years. In fact it was almost 1000 years from the 5th to the 15th Century when Islam was extremely 'involved' in Europe - a period of time that is often called the 'Dark Ages'. Surely they taught that in your schools?

 

The Dark Ages basically started (no exact date like most big things) when the Roman Empire finally and fully collapsed in 5th Century. A few hundred years later of 'dark ages' and the Islamic forces started conquering major parts of Europe.  The 'crusade' by Christians to drive Islam out of Europe, was what convinced the then disparate Christian Nations to join forces to drive Islam out, or be conquered and their Religion removed.  Nothing creates impetus and commonality amongst Religious peoples than the threat of destruction of their faith. It was NOT an immediate event - in came and went in waves - culminating in the invasions of the Holy Lands and the eventual removal of Islam from power in many parts of Europe. 

I have no quarrel with the history you relate, and I’m not going to argue with you about the use of the word Crusades (capped) or, as you have it, “crusade” (lowercased in quotation marks).

 

What puzzles me is what the word “woke” has to do with any of this (??) Many people who are, for instance, against civil rights; who are homophobic, or racist, or Islamophobic -- and I’m not accusing you of any of those things -- use the word “woke” to describe anything they don’t like (and there are usually a lot of things they don’t like). Which renders the word stupid and meaningless.

 

I would indeed like to think that I am “woke,” or I try to be -- meaning, I try to look beyond my own nose. I’m a white guy, so being “woke” means trying to understand what the world looks from the perspective of someone who doesn’t look or think like me; what their concerns might be. Being “woke” means trying to be cognizant of injustice, whether based on stereotyping individuals into groups (like “Muslims” or “Black people” or “Spanish speakers”) or more generally. My question to you then is: why the hell aren’t YOU woke? If you’re not, then you’re asleep. Take it from Lead Belly.

1 hour ago, Cory1848 said:

I’m not accusing you of any of those things -- use the word “woke” to describe anything they don’t like (and there are usually a lot of things they don’t like). Which renders the word stupid and meaningless.

You dont understand. So I will try to explain.

 

Woke means many things - but at its core is a delusional belief that everyone is nice and deserves to be treated like they are important and that their views are important and their lives are important. What that results in is rules and social behaviours that 'ban' or 'discourage' any acts or views that do not accept that belief.  In many ways it is like a Religious belief which is entrenched and enforced thought laws and rules - like Christianity used to be - and like Islam currently still is.  Yep - being woke is like being in a religion - it is all about beliefs.

 

Part of that woke 'enforcement' is the way kids in school are taught - and that has been happening since 1980s - and another part if rewriting history to make it align with 'modern beliefs' and 'the message'. That is why I used the word to describe what has been happening about the history of Islam in Europe - find a history book written before 1980 and it will be very different to what is written now.   

 

I do not agree with homosexuality and I do not think it is a viable lifestyle, but I will accept someone who is one. I played golf for over 20 years with 3 blokes and one of them was gay.  But I will never accept the 'woke' message that his lifestyle should be taught in schools because it is 'equal and valid' - and get this - he was adamant that it was wrong too.  He hated all the BS marches and 'equality' BS - he said it was radicals and deviants that had taken over the agenda.

 

Likewise, I will never accept that it is OK for transsexuals to be preaching or dancing to kids in schools. That is NOT teaching tolerance - that is woke enforcement of acceptance and it is unacceptable.  But the woke message of equality and diversity and forced acceptance is what I have been against for a long time and which more and more People are against now too. 

 

Tolerance is the answer - not woke compliance.  The People made it legal. The People started to tolerate, and it was enforced in the workplace. The move to enforce it is our lives was due to woke mentality and it was a step too far. At work all people are entitled to be treated equally and fairly - but that is NOT the case in real life - but woke people want that.   Sorry - but the team selected to play football for my country at the world cup is not going to be 50/50 male/female with all races and religions also represented - it should be the best players irrespective of their age, sex, race or religion.  Stick to that Principle and you too will realise that the Woke are trying to force their own views on others - like all religious fanatics have done throughout history - and they will use any means they can at their disposal. Religious fanatics will kill others to live in Peace - they justify themselves doing the worst things because it is all 'for the cause'.  

 

4 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

You dont understand. So I will try to explain.

 

Woke means many things - but at its core is a delusional belief that everyone is nice and deserves to be treated like they are important and that their views are important and their lives are important. What that results in is rules and social behaviours that 'ban' or 'discourage' any acts or views that do not accept that belief.  In many ways it is like a Religious belief which is entrenched and enforced thought laws and rules - like Christianity used to be - and like Islam currently still is.  Yep - being woke is like being in a religion - it is all about beliefs.

 

Part of that woke 'enforcement' is the way kids in school are taught - and that has been happening since 1980s - and another part if rewriting history to make it align with 'modern beliefs' and 'the message'. That is why I used the word to describe what has been happening about the history of Islam in Europe - find a history book written before 1980 and it will be very different to what is written now.   

 

I do not agree with homosexuality and I do not think it is a viable lifestyle, but I will accept someone who is one. I played golf for over 20 years with 3 blokes and one of them was gay.  But I will never accept the 'woke' message that his lifestyle should be taught in schools because it is 'equal and valid' - and get this - he was adamant that it was wrong too.  He hated all the BS marches and 'equality' BS - he said it was radicals and deviants that had taken over the agenda.

 

Likewise, I will never accept that it is OK for transsexuals to be preaching or dancing to kids in schools. That is NOT teaching tolerance - that is woke enforcement of acceptance and it is unacceptable.  But the woke message of equality and diversity and forced acceptance is what I have been against for a long time and which more and more People are against now too. 

 

Tolerance is the answer - not woke compliance.  The People made it legal. The People started to tolerate, and it was enforced in the workplace. The move to enforce it is our lives was due to woke mentality and it was a step too far. At work all people are entitled to be treated equally and fairly - but that is NOT the case in real life - but woke people want that.   Sorry - but the team selected to play football for my country at the world cup is not going to be 50/50 male/female with all races and religions also represented - it should be the best players irrespective of their age, sex, race or religion.  Stick to that Principle and you too will realise that the Woke are trying to force their own views on others - like all religious fanatics have done throughout history - and they will use any means they can at their disposal. Religious fanatics will kill others to live in Peace - they justify themselves doing the worst things because it is all 'for the cause'.  

 

On your statement that it’s delusional to believe “that everyone is nice and deserves to be treated like they are important and that their views are important and their lives are important”: not everyone is “nice,” but people should be treated as though their views and lives are as important as anyone else’s, as long as they mean no harm.

 

Take gay people and trans people, two groups who seem to trouble you. You are entirely mistaken in believing that a gay lifestyle is “unviable”: what’s unviable about it? Gay people, lesbians, and trans people have been part of humankind since the beginning. This is not some woke “delusion”: it’s reality, and all of these people, along with white cisgender heterosexuals, deserve equal treatment under the law, including full marriage rights, rights to adopt, etc. etc. If you’re uncomfortable with that, that’s your problem and no one else’s.

 

Further, not sure what you mean by trans people “preaching and dancing” to kids in schools, but because trans people are part of everyday reality (Do you live in Thailand? Have you ever stepped out into the street here?), schoolchildren should very much, in the proper context, learn about such things, so they don’t develop the same prejudices that seem to be crippling you.

 

On Islam -- is Islamic extremism a problem? Sure it is! Big problem! Are the world’s two billion Muslims all extremists? No, of course not! Nearly all of them are simply people trying to get on with their lives, just like you and me. On history being rewritten, it may well be that earlier histories, especially those written by Christians, condemned various aspects of Islam, but now that the world is becoming more integrated, people learn more about each other. And I’d be surprised if present-day histories pulled any punches on the very real harm done by theocratic states and terrorist groups. (By the way, Christians can be terrorists, too: did you know that twice as many Iraqi civilians were killed during George Bush’s unprovoked “Shock and Awe” bombing campaign as died on 9/11?)

 

You say that “tolerance is the answer,” but with blanket statements like “I do not agree with homosexuality” and “the woke message of equality and diversity is what I have been against,” you certainly don’t sound like a tolerant fellow, or even very “nice.” Basta.

11 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Big problem! Are the world’s two billion Muslims all extremists? No, of course not! Nearly all of them are simply people trying to get on with their lives, just like you and me.

 

They have 3-4 children per family on average. Westerners are down to what? One child per family? 

 

Western countries will no longer be majority "white" people in 50 to 100 years. The birth rates among white people is too low compared to especially Muslims. 

 

On 7/17/2025 at 8:13 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

Indeed.  People need to wake up to the threat from far right extremists.  Learn from history!

 

Problem with that comment is the term "far right".  It is applied far too eagerly to people who are not far right but protest against the creeping "far left".  Seems anyone NOT with the legacy medias program or " progressive politics" is painted as a hater and far right.  

 

58 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

They have 3-4 children per family on average. Westerners are down to what? One child per family? 

 

Western countries will no longer be majority "white" people in 50 to 100 years. The birth rates among white people is too low compared to especially Muslims. 

 

Yes, you’re probably right; in the US, people who identify as white will likely be in a minority even sooner than that, and many commentators convincingly argue that the current hysteria about “illegals” is a last-ditch effort by some white people to fend off just that inevitability. (But, in thirty years, what “white” even means will likely have changed -- only a hundred years ago in the US, Irish and “swarthy” types like Italians were not considered “white,” to say nothing of Slavs, Greeks, Jewish people, and so on.)

 

And that’s just it -- human migration is inevitable, and natural, and organic; most immigrants largely assimilate into the host culture, even if they keep some semblance of their faith, their cuisine, their music, and other aspects of their culture. And conversely, they in fact add parts of their culture to the host culture in a constant process of evolution. It’s not always smooth (large-scale migrations, such as Europeans spreading to the Americas or Arabs spreading across North Africa, can indeed be violent), but influxes of workers, or refugees, or formerly colonized peoples are at worst humanitarian and at best beneficial all around.

1 hour ago, Cory1848 said:

On your statement that it’s delusional to believe “that everyone is nice and deserves to be treated like they are important and that their views are important and their lives are important”: not everyone is “nice,” but people should be treated as though their views and lives are as important as anyone else’s, as long as they mean no harm.

 

I am sure you think your points and thinking are 'correct' - but it is truly illogical and ignorant. One day when you grow up (I hope) you will realise that your delusional mentality is what makes gay Uni students in USA protest in support of Hamas - who would kill them if they entered Gaza.

 

I used gays and trans as an example - and your woke responses to that (I hate them and have trouble with them and other insults) shows your woke mentality for what it is - hive mentality demanding others think the same.  I dont 'have a problem' with them as you claim - that is your delusional thinking because I dont think about them the same as you do. I tolerate them and have them as friends - and yes I live here - and yes they are everywhere here - but you clearly do not.  They are not woke here.   The people tolerate each other here - it is not enforced as if it is some human right that they can demand. Thais chose to accept them - and others - there is no woke agenda of enforcement like where you clearly live in the west (west coast?).

 

Your statement - "people should be treated as though their views and lives are as important as anyone else’s, as long as they mean no harm." is inherently woke thinking and delusional.  No your and my views are not as important as others - in any given circumstance. Example - the man with the gun is to be obeyed - whether you like it or not. Example - where does the gorilla sit - wherever he effin wants to. You are the type of woke fool who the man with a gun shoots to shut you up and the gorilla picks up and throws out of the window.  Think about that. And there are many many more situations where a person's views are just not as  important as anyone else. Example - the brain surgeon thinks he should do this, but the ignorant nurse thinks he should do that. And on and on and on it goes - that is real life - rarely is it completely even and fair and equal. I will not even start on bias thinking which skews it all into other dimensions. 

 

No - other people's lives are not as important as mine - or yours - in terms of circumstances - but more so because of reality. Sorry - but if it is you or my wife - my call is that you die - someone will say you should live (I hope).  Sorry - but if it is you or me - then you die - and I dont give a fig what anyone else says. Sorry - but if it is you or an innocent child - you die.  Sorry - but if it is you or any wealthy famous person - you will be the choice of the vast majority of people of who they choose is to die.  It is delusional and silly to think we are all the same - it would be nice - but someone has to be Captain Kirk even on the Enterprise. Someone has to be in charge and someone has to fix the toilets. That is life mate - grow up and get on with it. Get out of that basement living woke mentality and achieve something in life - you will not get that demanding we are all tre3ated equally.  As Pink said - "I am all right Jack, keep your hands of my stack".  Dont wake up to reality when it is all too late and you are living off welfare in a cheap small flat in a 3rd world country chasing cheap beers and girls. 

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

They have 3-4 children per family on average. Westerners are down to what? One child per family? 

 

Western countries will no longer be majority "white" people in 50 to 100 years. The birth rates among white people is too low compared to especially Muslims. 

 

Which is why rational countries wishing to maintain their own culture and traditions are ignoring the UN and WEF BS and refusing to allow massive immigration of incompatible peoples. Japan and Thailand are classic examples - inside 50 years many western countries will be looking at them with envy. Multiculturalism has failed by any rational measure - it needs to be rejected as a failed delusional far-left BS claiming we are all equal. We all deserve equal rights but we are all not equal.  Japan and Thailand do not want massive European or African or Arab immigration because they want to maintain their own culture and not have it dissolved away by Muslims especially.

 

Anyone not believing that is what will happen?? Answer me this simple question !!  When did Mohammad visit Malaysia and Indonesia???  Buddha visited here and many other countries in this area - and his 'message' spread far and wide.  How the hell does an Arabic Religion take over and rule an Asian country 1000s of K away ??  Because they allowed too many of them to enter and stay - and like the cancer they are - they spread and spread - and now the Malay society and most of their culture is gone baby gone. Thousands of years of human civilisations and culture wiped out by a religious group from 1000s of Ks away that has only one aim - to make the whole world Muslims.  And they are winning.  

49 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I am sure you think your points and thinking are 'correct' - but it is truly illogical and ignorant. One day when you grow up (I hope) you will realise that your delusional mentality is what makes gay Uni students in USA protest in support of Hamas - who would kill them if they entered Gaza.

 

I used gays and trans as an example - and your woke responses to that (I hate them and have trouble with them and other insults) shows your woke mentality for what it is - hive mentality demanding others think the same.  I dont 'have a problem' with them as you claim - that is your delusional thinking because I dont think about them the same as you do. I tolerate them and have them as friends - and yes I live here - and yes they are everywhere here - but you clearly do not.  They are not woke here.   The people tolerate each other here - it is not enforced as if it is some human right that they can demand. Thais chose to accept them - and others - there is no woke agenda of enforcement like where you clearly live in the west (west coast?).

 

Your statement - "people should be treated as though their views and lives are as important as anyone else’s, as long as they mean no harm." is inherently woke thinking and delusional.  No your and my views are not as important as others - in any given circumstance. Example - the man with the gun is to be obeyed - whether you like it or not. Example - where does the gorilla sit - wherever he effin wants to. You are the type of woke fool who the man with a gun shoots to shut you up and the gorilla picks up and throws out of the window.  Think about that. And there are many many more situations where a person's views are just not as  important as anyone else. Example - the brain surgeon thinks he should do this, but the ignorant nurse thinks he should do that. And on and on and on it goes - that is real life - rarely is it completely even and fair and equal. I will not even start on bias thinking which skews it all into other dimensions. 

 

No - other people's lives are not as important as mine - or yours - in terms of circumstances - but more so because of reality. Sorry - but if it is you or my wife - my call is that you die - someone will say you should live (I hope).  Sorry - but if it is you or me - then you die - and I dont give a fig what anyone else says. Sorry - but if it is you or an innocent child - you die.  Sorry - but if it is you or any wealthy famous person - you will be the choice of the vast majority of people of who they choose is to die.  It is delusional and silly to think we are all the same - it would be nice - but someone has to be Captain Kirk even on the Enterprise. Someone has to be in charge and someone has to fix the toilets. That is life mate - grow up and get on with it. Get out of that basement living woke mentality and achieve something in life - you will not get that demanding we are all tre3ated equally.  As Pink said - "I am all right Jack, keep your hands of my stack".  Dont wake up to reality when it is all too late and you are living off welfare in a cheap small flat in a 3rd world country chasing cheap beers and girls. 

Wow, that’s really scary -- you live in such a scary world, with Woke Policepersons, bearded Muslims with sabers, and other bogeymen hiding around every corner. And what’s with all the death in your last paragraph? Wow.

 

I’m sorry if you believe I insulted you. But, among many other things, you said this: “I do not agree with homosexuality.” There is absolutely no difference between that statement and a statement such as, “I do not agree with the blondness of people who have blond hair.” No difference whatsoever. What is one to make of such a statement as that, and the mindset that came up with it?  What are the countless millions of “homosexuals” around the world, if they were to know, to make of the fact that you do not “agree” with their reality?

 

Again, sorry if I insulted you. You take care now, OK?

13 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Yes, you’re probably right; in the US, people who identify as white will likely be in a minority even sooner than that, and many commentators convincingly argue that the current hysteria about “illegals” is a last-ditch effort by some white people to fend off just that inevitability. (But, in thirty years, what “white” even means will likely have changed -- only a hundred years ago in the US, Irish and “swarthy” types like Italians were not considered “white,” to say nothing of Slavs, Greeks, Jewish people, and so on.)

 

And that’s just it -- human migration is inevitable, and natural, and organic; most immigrants largely assimilate into the host culture, even if they keep some semblance of their faith, their cuisine, their music, and other aspects of their culture. And conversely, they in fact add parts of their culture to the host culture in a constant process of evolution. It’s not always smooth (large-scale migrations, such as Europeans spreading to the Americas or Arabs spreading across North Africa, can indeed be violent), but influxes of workers, or refugees, or formerly colonized peoples are at worst humanitarian and at best beneficial all around.

 

Good post.

Even Islamic culture will be diluted in the West in several generations since they will inter-

marry more and more. 

 

Regarding skin color, I don't care. I don't get along with my own siblings. So skin color doesn't mean anything. Unless there is discrimination against a certain group ... 

 

And the other main issue is travel. Since most cultures will be watered down, travel becomes less interesting in many places. But I guess get your traveling in now. There's still time to absorb culture. Later on, travel might be mostly for the sights. But you might have a hard time tracking down an authentic pizza in Rome in 50 years. And maybe who cares? You can get your Italian pizza fix in Bangkok. 

 

Anyway, we are essentially creating a new hybrid human being. In 200 years, there will be so much inter-marriage that it will be difficult to know what a person's ancestry is. 

 

And religions will all disappear probably. At least the major religions we have now. 

 

But some rough times ahead. Many problems, resistance. 

It doesn't help that some of these immigrants are illegals with a criminal history. 

 

 

11 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Good post.

Even Islamic culture will be diluted in the West in several generations since they will inter-

marry more and more. 

 

Regarding skin color, I don't care. I don't get along with my own siblings. So skin color doesn't mean anything. Unless there is discrimination against a certain group ... 

 

And the other main issue is travel. Since most cultures will be watered down, travel becomes less interesting in many places. But I guess get your traveling in now. There's still time to absorb culture. Later on, travel might be mostly for the sights. But you might have a hard time tracking down an authentic pizza in Rome in 50 years. And maybe who cares? You can get your Italian pizza fix in Bangkok. 

 

Anyway, we are essentially creating a new hybrid human being. In 200 years, there will be so much inter-marriage that it will be difficult to know what a person's ancestry is. 

 

And religions will all disappear probably. At least the major religions we have now. 

 

But some rough times ahead. Many problems, resistance. 

It doesn't help that some of these immigrants are illegals with a criminal history. 

There will certainly be assimilation all around; hopefully one positive will be, it will lead to less conflict, or one fewer reason to enter into conflict. Though perhaps that’s wishful thinking.

 

On things that make cultures distinct and interesting, people can be pretty proud of their culture, even as they absorb other cultures, so I think much of it will linger, or adapt. Your example of pizza is a good one: Naples lays claim to having invented pizza, and if you have a restaurant that serves Neapolitan pizza, you can get certified by the Associazione Verace Pizza Napoletana -- showing that you prepare the pizza in the traditional way, that certain ingredients come from Campania, etc. Peppina in Bangkok is AVPN certified; I’ve been there a lot, it’s great.

 

But when Italians moved in large numbers to the US in the late nineteenth–early twentieth centuries, they developed New York pizza (I imagine using ingredients at hand), which is totally different, and just as good. (And there’s a lot more wiggle room as to what makes a New York pizza.) The consensus via Google search shows that Chef Bing’s on Ruam Rudi has Bangkok’s best New York pizza; haven’t been there.

 

Anyway, this is all way off topic. Hope you make it up with your siblings at some point!

15 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Problem with that comment is the term "far right".  It is applied far too eagerly to people who are not far right but protest against the creeping "far left".  Seems anyone NOT with the legacy medias program or " progressive politics" is painted as a hater and far right.  

 

 

It's not what I meant.  Of course some protestors, whether protesting about asylum seekers/immigrants or Israel's actions in Gaza, are genuinely concerned.  But like it or not the 'far right' are exploiting such concerns, just as the 'far left' are doing on the other side.  It would be naive to believe otherwise.

19 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Wow, that’s really scary -- you live in such a scary world, with Woke Policepersons, bearded Muslims with sabers, and other bogeymen hiding around every corner. And what’s with all the death in your last paragraph? Wow.

 

I’m sorry if you believe I insulted you. But, among many other things, you said this: “I do not agree with homosexuality.” There is absolutely no difference between that statement and a statement such as, “I do not agree with the blondness of people who have blond hair.” No difference whatsoever. What is one to make of such a statement as that, and the mindset that came up with it?  What are the countless millions of “homosexuals” around the world, if they were to know, to make of the fact that you do not “agree” with their reality?

 

Again, sorry if I insulted you. You take care now, OK?

ROFLOL - your wokeness is strong - incurable by other people. Think of me when you are old and suddenly realise you were totally wrong. You are just like so many woke feminists I have known -  totally incapable of understanding reality - until one day it hits them in the face full frontal. I hope the 'fact train' hits you hard and often - that is the only way you will waker up from your delusions - and they are delusions.  Go down to Gaza gayboy and volunteer to serve soy lattes to the Hamas soldiers - they will love you with open arms and treat you like a hero 🙂

 

6 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

It's not what I meant.  Of course some protestors, whether protesting about asylum seekers/immigrants or Israel's actions in Gaza, are genuinely concerned.  But like it or not the 'far right' are exploiting such concerns, just as the 'far left' are doing on the other side.  It would be naive to believe otherwise.

Spot on.  If only the lefties could see that their woke radical 'progressive' views and opinions are not shared by the majority, and not throw 'far-right' at us as if it is an insult. IMO Elon Musk summed them up best - and they are worse after the Biden debacle of 4 years. 

 

 

   

10 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

It's not what I meant.  Of course some protestors, whether protesting about asylum seekers/immigrants or Israel's actions in Gaza, are genuinely concerned.  But like it or not the 'far right' are exploiting such concerns, just as the 'far left' are doing on the other side.  It would be naive to believe otherwise.

 

Yes it is the extremes on both sides that get the attention.  Problem is (at least in the US) rarely are far leftists called that while middle of the road people who happen to endorse any right of center position are labeled far right.  Seems anyone that voted for Trump is labeled far right MAGA extremists.  

 

I blame media.  They just parrot DEM politicians and don't call them out when they use that term while they DO call out GOP politicians when they use the far left term.  Whatever.  Doesn't sound like we are far apart on the concept.

 

 

13 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Spot on.  If only the lefties could see that their woke radical 'progressive' views and opinions are not shared by the majority, and not throw 'far-right' at us as if it is an insult. IMO Elon Musk summed them up best - and they are worse after the Biden debacle of 4 years. 

 

 

   

 

https://youtu.be/2S-WJN3L5eo?si=FA9ztgEK5d4st5j4

 

 

 

3 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

https://youtu.be/2S-WJN3L5eo?si=FA9ztgEK5d4st5j4

 

 

 

 

Staged.  

6 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Staged.  

Obviously. But an interesting watch, nonetheless.

9 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Obviously. But an interesting watch, nonetheless.

 

Except for the fact the loons on the left believe that is the average Trump voter.  I live in a retirement community (55+) of highly successful people most of whom voted for Trump.  None that I know would ever consider themselves fascist.