4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Looks like you are an angry by product of the failed East German state.

 

Labeling again. I was born deep in West Germany. Still remember the smell of their cars, the Trabant, with it`s 2 stroke motor, when the border fell in the summer of 1990, but boy their chicks were hot.

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Are you enjoying the millions of Syrian and Afghanis who will not integrate into German society? Their presence in Germany has nothing to do with Israel. 

 

When did I ever blame Israel for those refugees? 

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Yes the lower house passed a toothless resolution intended to address the large volume of hate speech and violence coming from the muslim refugee, asylum seekers and economic migrant community.

 

The resolution might be toothless but that is how it starts, sooner or later leading to the loss of our basic rights like the freedom of speech.

 

I must have missed the part of the resolution stating that it can only be applied to refugees.

 

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

In addition to their primitive culture, they have brought their ingrained sectarian hate and are implicated in multiple violent activities in their host nation. The violent attacks and hateful rallies only gained prominence when these people arrived in Germany.

 

Primitive culture?? Seriously??

 

You should really stop using your history books to replace that broken leg of your kitchen table.

 

These people had already cities (Aleppo is one of the oldest cities in human history), laws, science, trade, poetry and art, when your ancestors had barely crawled down from the trees and were throwing stones at the moon.

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

I was recently in Frankfurt. There was a large rally populated  by mostly muslim and a small number of Germans who looked like they don't wash regularly.

 

You know, Nazis used to say the same thing about Jews.

 

Seriously, what correlation do you see between one`s hygiene and the value of his political opinion?

 

So, dirty Germans and Muslims

 

And that is not hate speech or at least libel?

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

I saw many of the crowd in their hijabs and keffiyahs. They were protesting something, and based upon the  banners and placards seemed to relate to Israel.

 

As you obviously were close enough to sniff at them, why didn`t you ask them, why they were there?

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The Germans walking by didn't seem to be too supportive.

 

That`s because most Germans are cowards, world champions in looking the other way and later claim "Sorry we did not know".

 

Would not be the first time in our history.

 

At the world cup in Qatar even our players were displaying their support for human rights criticizing the country

 

 

Where are our celebrities now, when Germany is the second largest weapons supplier of the mass slaughter in Gaza?

 

Cowards!!

 

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The police were rather nice about it too.

 

Why? Because they were not beating them up?

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 I have only been questioned once by German police and that was on my arrival in Berlin from Bangkok 20 years ago. They asked if I was carrying drugs.  I laughed. They smiled and walked away. Probably, looking for my reaction.

 

I haven`t been questioned once in the last quarter century with more than 100 flights from or to BKK. Maybe it was because you looked as if you would not .....

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

They had moustaches. Why is it so many cops have moustaches? 

 

True, we call it "Potenzbürste" or "Mösenfeile", which can be translated to "Virility brush" and "Pussy rasp"  or "Pussy file" and is supposed to make them look older or more respectable.

 

 

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

What was your previous identity on AN? 

 

Never had one.

 

Why would someone change his identity?

 

Seriously, you might call me naive but I have no agenda or play around in online communities or try to find personal satisfaction in trolling or insulting people although I enjoy a bit of sarcasm once in a while.

 

I speak, read and write, by far not perfectly, 6 languages, have chosen a profession decades ago which is fundamentally based on helping others, and do so even in my free time.

 

Just to name one of many examples: when Covid hit Thailand and the shut down started many people run out of food and money

 

So I organized food donations on several weekends

 

 

 

I almost got arrested for that as the BIB showed up and tried to stop the whole thing because we had not asked for permission in city hall (how would I know) and we did not maintain social distancing (which was almost impossible with all those hungry people)

 

Luckily the crowd could "convince" those nice officers and we learned our lesson and asked the people to put their names in a list and come to pick up their share at a certain time

 

 

we handed out 2500 Kilos of rice and almost the same amount of canned fish and Mama soup plus water.

 

I also drove around looking for homeless people in need and handed out food, water or small amounts of money.

 

 

 

Sometimes those we helped send pics 

 

 

 

Yet I will never forget that guy, left by his wife, effortlessly tried to find a job to feed his daughter and later gave up and took the easy way out in a river not far away from Ayudhya.

 

His 5 year old daughter followed him.

 

 

 

It is so easy to dehumanize refugees when you sit in your warm home, well fed and with no financial worries.

Ask yourself, what would have to happen, to make you leave your place, your family, your social environment and travel mostly by foot Thousands of Miles to safety with little money in your pocket and once that is used up, you depend on the mercy of others.

 

Do you think any refugee wants to be one?

 

However, when I see how Israel treats children in Gaza or treats those whom it has internationally starved and who now come to beg for some food, I feel rage and disgust.

 

Have you ever imagined to be born as a Gazan?

 

Can you even imagine the pain in a heart of a parent, who is carrying his child, shot by an IDF sniper, to a bombed hospital??

 

I can`t.

 

But only thinking about it torments me.

 

In order to dehumanize someone you must dehumanize yourself first.

 

And when someone supports the murder of children stating "they would have grown up to be terrorists" this person has clearly lost his humanity and is a victim of this conflict. He just doesn`t know it.

 

You want to know my identity?

 

My identity is the one of a human being who fundamentally believes  that the same justice must apply to everyone as anything else is not justice.

 

Injustice leads to conflict which inevitably leads to catastrophe and suffering.

 

Always.

 

I deeply believe in the declaration of human rights and oppose anyone or any country which breaks those rights as it is treason to our ancestors who fought, bled and even died for it and it is treason to all humanity.

 

The preamble:

 

We the peoples of the United Nations determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind; and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations ..

 

On 7/20/2025 at 9:39 AM, ChristineC said:

Don’t forget the BBC lol

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjvl4klzweo

The Palestinian death toll from the war in Gaza could be substantially higher than official figures reported by the Hamas-run health ministry, research published in The Lancet medical journal suggests.

Is The Lancet using the same questionable methodology as they used in Iraq? 

14 hours ago, ChristineC said:

What do you call killing 50 odd people every day as they’re waiting for food called?

 

 

It's called HAMAS propaganda.  

5 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

Labeling again. I was born deep in West Germany. Still remember the smell of their cars, the Trabant, with it`s 2 stroke motor, when the border fell in the summer of 1990, but boy their chicks were hot.

 

 

When did I ever blame Israel for those refugees? 

 

 

The resolution might be toothless but that is how it starts, sooner or later leading to the loss of our basic rights like the freedom of speech.

 

I must have missed the part of the resolution stating that it can only be applied to refugees.

 

 

 

Primitive culture?? Seriously??

 

You should really stop using your history books to replace that broken leg of your kitchen table.

 

These people had already cities (Aleppo is one of the oldest cities in human history), laws, science, trade, poetry and art, when your ancestors had barely crawled down from the trees and were throwing stones at the moon.

 

 

You know, Nazis used to say the same thing about Jews.

 

Seriously, what correlation do you see between one`s hygiene and the value of his political opinion?

 

So, dirty Germans and Muslims

 

And that is not hate speech or at least libel?

 

 

As you obviously were close enough to sniff at them, why didn`t you ask them, why they were there?

 

 

That`s because most Germans are cowards, world champions in looking the other way and later claim "Sorry we did not know".

 

Would not be the first time in our history.

 

At the world cup in Qatar even our players were displaying their support for human rights criticizing the country

 

 

Where are our celebrities now, when Germany is the second largest weapons supplier of the mass slaughter in Gaza?

 

Cowards!!

 

 

 

Why? Because they were not beating them up?

 

 

I haven`t been questioned once in the last quarter century with more than 100 flights from or to BKK. Maybe it was because you looked as if you would not .....

 

 

True, we call it "Potenzbürste" or "Mösenfeile", which can be translated to "Virility brush" and "Pussy rasp"  or "Pussy file" and is supposed to make them look older or more respectable.

 

 

 

Never had one.

 

Why would someone change his identity?

 

Seriously, you might call me naive but I have no agenda or play around in online communities or try to find personal satisfaction in trolling or insulting people although I enjoy a bit of sarcasm once in a while.

 

I speak, read and write, by far not perfectly, 6 languages, have chosen a profession decades ago which is fundamentally based on helping others, and do so even in my free time.

 

Just to name one of many examples: when Covid hit Thailand and the shut down started many people run out of food and money

 

So I organized food donations on several weekends

 

 

 

I almost got arrested for that as the BIB showed up and tried to stop the whole thing because we had not asked for permission in city hall (how would I know) and we did not maintain social distancing (which was almost impossible with all those hungry people)

 

Luckily the crowd could "convince" those nice officers and we learned our lesson and asked the people to put their names in a list and come to pick up their share at a certain time

 

 

we handed out 2500 Kilos of rice and almost the same amount of canned fish and Mama soup plus water.

 

I also drove around looking for homeless people in need and handed out food, water or small amounts of money.

 

 

 

Sometimes those we helped send pics 

 

 

 

Yet I will never forget that guy, left by his wife, effortlessly tried to find a job to feed his daughter and later gave up and took the easy way out in a river not far away from Ayudhya.

 

His 5 year old daughter followed him.

 

 

 

It is so easy to dehumanize refugees when you sit in your warm home, well fed and with no financial worries.

Ask yourself, what would have to happen, to make you leave your place, your family, your social environment and travel mostly by foot Thousands of Miles to safety with little money in your pocket and once that is used up, you depend on the mercy of others.

 

Do you think any refugee wants to be one?

 

However, when I see how Israel treats children in Gaza or treats those whom it has internationally starved and who now come to beg for some food, I feel rage and disgust.

 

Have you ever imagined to be born as a Gazan?

 

Can you even imagine the pain in a heart of a parent, who is carrying his child, shot by an IDF sniper, to a bombed hospital??

 

I can`t.

 

But only thinking about it torments me.

 

In order to dehumanize someone you must dehumanize yourself first.

 

And when someone supports the murder of children stating "they would have grown up to be terrorists" this person has clearly lost his humanity and is a victim of this conflict. He just doesn`t know it.

 

You want to know my identity?

 

My identity is the one of a human being who fundamentally believes  that the same justice must apply to everyone as anything else is not justice.

 

Injustice leads to conflict which inevitably leads to catastrophe and suffering.

 

Always.

 

I deeply believe in the declaration of human rights and oppose anyone or any country which breaks those rights as it is treason to our ancestors who fought, bled and even died for it and it is treason to all humanity.

 

The preamble:

 

We the peoples of the United Nations determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind; and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations ..

 

Thank you.

Beautifully written,

A compassionate being v a fundamentalist Jew. Says it all.

8 hours ago, TedG said:

It's called HAMAS propaganda.  

Unfortunately these killings are happening.

On 7/20/2025 at 7:02 PM, Somjot said:

 

Palestinians are genetically very close to Jews and other Middle East populations, including Turks (Anatolians), Lebanese, Egyptians, Armenians, and Iranians. 

 

However at the beginning of the last century only 3% of the Palestinians were Jewish living side by side peacefully with another minority, the Christians and the majority, being Muslims for centuries.

 

Then due to the Zionist movement more and more Jews moved in, were even welcomed by the Muslims, who did not know their true intentions until they started kicking them out from their homes.

 

1948 the ethno-state of Israel was founded and despite being only 1/3 of the population, the Jews took 2/3 of the land by forcefully kicking out the naive people and keep occupying and stealing more and more land until today, as we can watch right now in the daily news.

 

Despite clearly being the perpetrators, land thieves and occupiers, killing way more Muslims than the other way around and constantly expanding their territory, they somehow succeeded to make the rest of the world believe, that they are the victims, fighting for their survival on a daily base, desperately trying to avoid extinction.

 

That is the real fable made to fool the world and is parroted bye western politicians and other useful idiots since decades “Israel must defend itself, Israel has the right to defend itself”, while justifying atrocities which can be described as many things but definitely not as defense.

That is one view on history - but it is neither realistic or true - that is the 'fable' propagated by the PLO and foolishly believed by the western media.  Admittedly Israel was not a perfect angel, and the whole creation of Israel after WW2 was done without due regard to Muslim issues, but the terrorist organisations like Hamas and Hezbolla etc. have brought the current retribution upon themselves through their despicable terrorist atrocities. 

 

I know you are not saying what they have done and did was OK, and I am not saying nothing Israel has done nothing wrong since invading Gaza, but it is a war and bad things happen during a war.  All Hamas has to do is surrender all the hostages (alive or not) and surrender all those that raped and killed when invading Israel to stand trial. If they do that the war is cease soon afterwards. But Hamas is playing by the old book, and they always run and hide after committing terrorists acts, and then blame Israel when 'innocents' are killed when Israel pursues them.  Not anymore - Israel has declared war and invaded - they are going to raze a large part of Gaza to the ground, until they find the hostages and capture the rapists murderers. Hamas made a huge mistake - but like all terrorist murderers, they will not accept that and surrender. Hamas would rather all Gazans die before surrendering - so Israel will keep going until one or both things happen. 

5 hours ago, stevenl said:

Unfortunately these killings are happening.

Prove it

14 hours ago, Somjot said:

That`s because most Germans are cowards, world champions in looking the other way and later claim "Sorry we did not know".

 

Would not be the first time in our history.

 

   Yes , Germans were responsible for the attempted eradication of Jews 70 years ago .

   Germany will NOT participate this time around 

22 hours ago, liddelljohn said:

No Palestine never existed   ,, It the name that the British put on the land at end of WW1  when they and the Bedouin chucked the Turks out after 400 years of occupation ,, The land was virtually barren and  those arid barren areas were bought by the Zionists and Jewish settlers in the 1890s from the Turks and local Arabs who thought it was all worthless , The name palestine comes from the roman  version of the word Philistine  , the Philistines  invaded the land 3000 years ago during the Bronze age collapse  , they were of Greek  origin ... but the israelites were already there    fighting the Philistine invaders ... The Philistines were moved on  out when the Babylonians absorbed israel  into their empire , They were actually part of the phonecians  and moved to Cilicia and Carthage ... 

 

And remember No Arab country wants the palestinians either   look at the massive barrier Egypt has built to keep them out .. More money has been invested in Gaza since 1967   by UN , aid , and donors that could have built another Dubai or Singapore   but its all been stolen or wasted ......

 

What are you trying to tell us?

 

When Israel was founded the Jews had bought merely 6% of the land, but they took it all.

 

Fact is, most Jews had left the place 2000 years ago. At the beginning of the last century from those people living in Palestine only around 3% were Jewish.

 

Be careful with saying things like no Arab country likes the Palestinians. So what? Even if true, does that give anyone the right to steal their land, drive them out or murder them?

 

Ever heard of the term "the Jewish question"?

 

2 centuries ago that was a huge issue in Europe, including France, England and later Germany and basically meant, how do we get rid of the Jews leading to the Balfour declaration promising the Jews a homeland far away from England somewhere in Palestine and later to the Holocaust which was therefore called "the final solution" to hat question.

 

A lack of popularity should never be an excuse to mistreat people.

 

However, by 1948 due to massive migration about 1/3 of the population in Palestine was Jewish, yet they took 2/3 of the land and established the Jewish ethno state of Israel while forcefully driving 750.000 Palestinians out and killing Thousands.

 

They call themselves the indigenous people but until the last century they did not even have their own language.

 

Most European Jews spoke Yiddish, originating from medieval German; they had to reinvent Hebrew which had not been used for 2 Millennia and lacked many words.

 

Plus changing their names to sound more Jewish: Mileikowski to Netanjahu, Grün to Gurion, the founder of Israel and Golda Mabowitz to Golda Meir and still doing so like Gal Greenstein aka Gal Gadot.

 

Another often repeated nonsense is “Israel must defend itself, Israel is at the brink of extinction”.

 

Since its foundation Israel has grown constantly no matter if you look at the geographic (growing as we speak due to illegal settlements), the population (from 630.000 to 7.000.000) or the economics (4^th most successful economy in the world).

 

Not exactly what one would imagine when hearing brink of extinction.

 

It's rather the Palestinians in Gaza who are on the brink of extinction and any comment about huge amounts of money being sent to Gaza since 1967, and not been used to create a second Singapore are unbelievably ignorant and cynical. A bad joke.

 

After 1967 Gaza was occupied by Israel for 40 years killing many Palestinians and restricting every aspect of life like access to water, to agriculture and export and to jobs basically only allowing them to earn some money in Israel as cheap labor with increasing settlement on their land.

 

Since 2006 until now Gaza`s Borders by land sea and air power completely controlled by Israel same as any movement of gardens and anything getting in or out of that place not to mention the hundreds off Palestinians killed by regular attacks from the IDF.

 

Second Singapore? What a cynical joke!

 

19 hours ago, TedG said:

It's called HAMAS propaganda.  

So pretty much ALL human rights organizations plus most of the world`s media is spreading Hamas lies?

 

And those allegedly killed are still alive and brought to some Spa facility by the IDF?

 

Getting a Swedish massage from the Easter bunny?

The best solution is to bulldoze Gaza into the sea.

5 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

That is one view on history - but it is neither realistic or true - that is the 'fable' propagated by the PLO and foolishly believed by the western media. 

 

Which part of it?

 

5 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

All Hamas has to do is surrender all the hostages (alive or not) and surrender all those that raped and killed when invading Israel to stand trial. If they do that the war is cease soon afterwards.

 

Do you really believe that? Then maybe you are believing in a fable. Maybe because it is repeated so many times.

 

The actual war might end but not the killing of Palestinians and the theft of their land like right now in the West Bank. They did not start a war and yet are getting killed and robbed as we speak.

 

Do you think Israel would surrender those, who raped and murdered Palestinian women and children?

 

Hardly.

 

The prefer to present them as war heroes in TV shows.

 

3 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

The best solution is to bulldoze Gaza into the sea.

 

Another Philanthropist.

 

Humanity and compassion still exist.

 

Hooray!

12 minutes ago, Somjot said:

 

Another Philanthropist.

 

Humanity and compassion still exist.

 

Hooray!

Radical Islamist Arabs are stupid.   The bulldozer is the solution. 

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Germans were responsible for the attempted eradication of Jews 70 years ago

 

What could have been. 

 

Just look at the mess now. 😞 

42 minutes ago, Packer said:

 

What could have been. 

Just look at the mess now. 😞 

 

   What would the World be like now if Hitler had killed all the Jews ?

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

So pretty much ALL human rights organizations plus most of the world`s media is spreading Hamas lies?

 

 

Yeah.

21 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

Labeling again. I was born deep in West Germany. Still remember the smell of their cars, the Trabant, with it`s 2 stroke motor, when the border fell in the summer of 1990, but boy their chicks were hot.

 

 

When did I ever blame Israel for those refugees? 

 

 

The resolution might be toothless but that is how it starts, sooner or later leading to the loss of our basic rights like the freedom of speech.

 

I must have missed the part of the resolution stating that it can only be applied to refugees.

 

 

 

Primitive culture?? Seriously??

 

You should really stop using your history books to replace that broken leg of your kitchen table.

 

These people had already cities (Aleppo is one of the oldest cities in human history), laws, science, trade, poetry and art, when your ancestors had barely crawled down from the trees and were throwing stones at the moon.

 

 

You know, Nazis used to say the same thing about Jews.

 

Seriously, what correlation do you see between one`s hygiene and the value of his political opinion?

 

So, dirty Germans and Muslims

 

And that is not hate speech or at least libel?

 

 

As you obviously were close enough to sniff at them, why didn`t you ask them, why they were there?

 

 

That`s because most Germans are cowards, world champions in looking the other way and later claim "Sorry we did not know".

 

Would not be the first time in our history.

 

At the world cup in Qatar even our players were displaying their support for human rights criticizing the country

 

 

Where are our celebrities now, when Germany is the second largest weapons supplier of the mass slaughter in Gaza?

 

Cowards!!

 

 

 

Why? Because they were not beating them up?

 

 

I haven`t been questioned once in the last quarter century with more than 100 flights from or to BKK. Maybe it was because you looked as if you would not .....

 

 

True, we call it "Potenzbürste" or "Mösenfeile", which can be translated to "Virility brush" and "Pussy rasp"  or "Pussy file" and is supposed to make them look older or more respectable.

 

 

 

Never had one.

 

Why would someone change his identity?

 

Seriously, you might call me naive but I have no agenda or play around in online communities or try to find personal satisfaction in trolling or insulting people although I enjoy a bit of sarcasm once in a while.

 

I speak, read and write, by far not perfectly, 6 languages, have chosen a profession decades ago which is fundamentally based on helping others, and do so even in my free time.

 

Just to name one of many examples: when Covid hit Thailand and the shut down started many people run out of food and money

 

So I organized food donations on several weekends

 

 

 

I almost got arrested for that as the BIB showed up and tried to stop the whole thing because we had not asked for permission in city hall (how would I know) and we did not maintain social distancing (which was almost impossible with all those hungry people)

 

Luckily the crowd could "convince" those nice officers and we learned our lesson and asked the people to put their names in a list and come to pick up their share at a certain time

 

 

we handed out 2500 Kilos of rice and almost the same amount of canned fish and Mama soup plus water.

 

I also drove around looking for homeless people in need and handed out food, water or small amounts of money.

 

 

 

Sometimes those we helped send pics 

 

 

 

Yet I will never forget that guy, left by his wife, effortlessly tried to find a job to feed his daughter and later gave up and took the easy way out in a river not far away from Ayudhya.

 

His 5 year old daughter followed him.

 

 

 

It is so easy to dehumanize refugees when you sit in your warm home, well fed and with no financial worries.

Ask yourself, what would have to happen, to make you leave your place, your family, your social environment and travel mostly by foot Thousands of Miles to safety with little money in your pocket and once that is used up, you depend on the mercy of others.

 

Do you think any refugee wants to be one?

 

However, when I see how Israel treats children in Gaza or treats those whom it has internationally starved and who now come to beg for some food, I feel rage and disgust.

 

Have you ever imagined to be born as a Gazan?

 

Can you even imagine the pain in a heart of a parent, who is carrying his child, shot by an IDF sniper, to a bombed hospital??

 

I can`t.

 

But only thinking about it torments me.

 

In order to dehumanize someone you must dehumanize yourself first.

 

And when someone supports the murder of children stating "they would have grown up to be terrorists" this person has clearly lost his humanity and is a victim of this conflict. He just doesn`t know it.

 

You want to know my identity?

 

My identity is the one of a human being who fundamentally believes  that the same justice must apply to everyone as anything else is not justice.

 

Injustice leads to conflict which inevitably leads to catastrophe and suffering.

 

Always.

 

I deeply believe in the declaration of human rights and oppose anyone or any country which breaks those rights as it is treason to our ancestors who fought, bled and even died for it and it is treason to all humanity.

 

The preamble:

 

We the peoples of the United Nations determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind; and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations ..

 

I love Humblebragging. 

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

So pretty much ALL human rights organizations plus most of the world`s media is spreading Hamas lies?

 

 

   The media just reports what Hamas says :

"500 innocent woman and children were killed by the IDF today in a breadline"..........................says Hamas 

   Which gets reported in numerous publications .

Doesn't mean that its true 

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What would the World be like now if Hitler had killed all the Jews ?

 

More peaceful. Less noisy. 🙂 

11 hours ago, Somjot said:

Which part of it?

Do you really believe that? Then maybe you are believing in a fable. Maybe because it is repeated so many times.

The actual war might end but not the killing of Palestinians and the theft of their land like right now in the West Bank. They did not start a war and yet are getting killed and robbed as we speak.

Do you think Israel would surrender those, who raped and murdered Palestinian women and children?

Hardly.

The prefer to present them as war heroes in TV shows.

All of it is a fable.

 

They are a group of people within what is now Jordan - many still there too.

 

They never had a 'homeland' - that is like saying Mormons in Utah have a homeland. They are a group and in large numbers - but they are in USA.

   

People in Gaza killed by the war is on Hamas not the IDF.

 

Hamas are a terrorist organisation that took over Gaza after Israel gave the PLO their own 'state' as such.  They do not want to live in peace - they want all Israelis removed or killed - 'from the river to the sea'. They claim to be 'freedom fighters' but they are terrorists who use their control over Gaza to enrich themselves (their leaders all have millions and live outside Gaza) and to wage a terrorist war against Israel. When their children are very young they are taught to hate the Jews and that they are their enemy - the majority of the society in Gaza has been corrupted and turned evil for almost 20 years.  Israel should have been more forceful and strong in the past - they are now making up for it.

 

You believe what the woke lefty MSM says about Palestinians - there is no facts or logic or reason that will change your mind - I am debating with a fool.

 

PS - You think it ends in Gaza? Israel and USA are going to send the main supporters of Hamas (and the others) back to the stone ages where they belong. They tore apart Iraq and they are going to do the same to Iran. USA and Israel have accepted that you cannot negotiate with them - you take them down and try to keep them down. Theyu dont care about their own People - only the western media and EU/UN do - and the fools who believe all their 'we are oppressed' BS PR. 

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What would the World be like now if Hitler had killed all the Jews ?

 

4 hours ago, Packer said:

 

More peaceful. Less noisy. 🙂 

 

@Packer

I know, you don't really mean that and are just making a provoking joke.

 

But honestly, thats utmost disgusting.

 

6 Million, many of them women and children, murdered on an industrial level, worst thing I've ever heard about, by far the darkest part of my country's history and you are asking for more?

 

That is something one should never make fun of. Ever.

 

6 minutes ago, Somjot said:

6 Million, many of them women and children, murdered on an industrial level, worst thing I've ever heard about, by far the darkest part of my country's history and you are asking for more?

 

 

I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.

 

WH Auden "September 1, 1939"

Over 100 aid groups warned on Wednesday of "mass starvation" spreading in Gaza, with their staff severely impacted by shortages. Israel faces growing global pressure over the enclave's dire humanitarian crisis, where over two million people have endured 21 months of war.

 

More than 100 aid organisations warned on Wednesday that "mass starvation" was spreading across the Gaza Strip and that their own colleagues were suffering acutely from the shortages.

 

Israel is facing mounting international pressure over the catastrophic humanitarian situation in the Palestinian territory, where more than two million people have endured 21 months of devastating conflict. 

 

More than 100 aid groups warn 'mass starvation' spreading across Gaza

6 hours ago, Packer said:

 

More peaceful. Less noisy. 🙂 

 

   Do you support the Palestinian cause just because they kill Jews ?

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you support the Palestinian cause just because they kill Jews ?

Do you support the Israel/Zionist/Jews cause 

just because they kill Palestinians ?

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

6 Million, many of them women and children, murdered on an industrial level,

might want to look up the latest "official" figures.

maybe 1.6 million ??

 

Just now, johng said:

Do you support the Israel/Zionist/Jews cause 

just because they kill Palestinians ?

 

   Do you refuse the answer and just ask the same question back ?

 

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Do you refuse the answer and just ask the same question back ?

right back at you   ...did not answer the "question"

The ongoing slaughter of Palestinians  by Israel/Zionist/Jews  is indefensible

IMHO.

Just now, johng said:

right back at you   ...did not answer the "question"

The ongoing slaughter of Palestinians  by Israel/Zionist/Jews  is indefensible

IMHO.

 

  If I ask  question , I do expect the question to be answered first , before they ask me a question back .