UK Labour Party getting excuses in early

[The Cyclist]

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Labour does not “deserve” to win the next election if it does not change the country, Rachel Reeves has said, as she acknowledged some voters were disappointed with the party’s record since entering government.

The chancellor said she understood the unhappiness felt by some voters towards a government that has U-turned on winter fuel allowance and welfare policies in recent months.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/02/labour-does-not-deserve-to-win-next-election-without-change-reeves-says

 

So deluded are the cabbages, that they think that the Winter fuel allowance and their now U-Turned welfare policies are the cause of their woes.

 

The graphs speak for themselves

 

https://www.moreincommon.org.uk/our-work/voting-intention-trackers/

 

Yer toast, in 2029. Unless events bring it all to a shuddering halt before then.

[NanLaew]

Very good information there, thanks for the link.

 

As for predicting the political future, don't give up your day job quite yet.

[The Cyclist]

43 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

As for predicting the political future, don't give up your day job quite yet.

 

 

Just cannot help yourself, can you.

 

It was none other than Rachel Reeves that made the prediction, not me.

 

I just posted it.

 

Perhaps getting off that barstool now and again, might help you.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, The Cyclist said:

It was none other than Rachel Reeves that made the prediction, not me.

 

Oh really?

 

2 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

Yer toast, in 2029. Unless events bring it all to a shuddering halt before then.

 

It's ok to err and forget what you said, but within an hour or so, not so much.

[The Cyclist]

7 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Oh really?

 

Did you not understand it, here it is again

 

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Labour does not “deserve” to win the next election if it does not change the country, Rachel Reeves has said, as she acknowledged some voters were disappointed with the party’s record since entering government.

 

I have put the relevant part in bold, might make it easier to understand.

 

Here is the well known Right Wing Rag, that is reporting it 😳😳

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/02/labour-does-not-deserve-to-win-next-election-without-change-reeves-says

 

Have an issue with who said it, or who reported it, take it with them. Their contact details are easy to find online.

 

[NanLaew]

So you deny that you posted the following?

 

2 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

Yer toast, in 2029. Unless events bring it all to a shuddering halt before then.

 

Stop being so evasive. It makes you look weak. Yes, you quoted the Chancellor as reported in the media but you endorsed it with your opinion.

[Chomper Higgot]

I’m rather looking forward to seeing the manifesto from Corbyn’s new party.

 

Labour need something to pull them back to the left.

[The Cyclist]

8 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Stop being so evasive. It makes you look weak. Yes, you quoted the Chancellor as reported in the media

 

Evasive ?
 

You are freaking hilarious. I have nothing to be evasive about.

 

Rachel Reeves is predicting that Labour will not win the next GE.

 

I am predicting that Labour might not make the next GE scheduled for 2029.

 

A number of separate events, might well see the Government collapse, before 2029.

 

 

[GarryP]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m rather looking forward to seeing the manifesto from Corbyn’s new party.

 

Labour need something to pull them back to the left.

It's not going to happen. He will split any remaining labour vote. Labour and Corbyn are not addressing issues of the working class. They are out of touch with what the majority of people really want, as is the conservative party. But there does not seem to many viable options. Farage is a narcissist, who just plays to the crowd, somewhat like Trump. So for me Reform is a big NO too. What is left? Will Advance UK increase in popularity? I doubt it. Sad days for the UK.   

[Chomper Higgot]

32 minutes ago, GarryP said:

It's not going to happen. He will split any remaining labour vote. Labour and Corbyn are not addressing issues of the working class. They are out of touch with what the majority of people really want, as is the conservative party. But there does not seem to many viable options. Farage is a narcissist, who just plays to the crowd, somewhat like Trump. So for me Reform is a big NO too. What is left? Will Advance UK increase in popularity? I doubt it. Sad days for the UK.   

I would like to know on what basis you claim to know what Corbyn is/is not addressing?

 

He’s not yet issued his manifesto.

 

Labour’s policies on the NHS, workers rights and renters rights are certainly addressing the concerns of the working class.

 

They could of course do more, hence my observation they need something to pull them back to the left.

[The Cyclist]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

hence my observation they need something to fleas them

 

They need their undercrackers infested with the fleas of a 1000 camels

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

They need their undercrackers infested with the fleas of a 1000 camels

Thanks for pointing out my typo.

 

I really should disable Autospell.

 

In the meantime I’m pleased you found some utility in life.

[The Cyclist]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Thanks for pointing out my typo.

 

I wasn't. I was laughing at you. Not the 1st time you managed to mangle your English, is it ?
 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In the meantime I’m pleased you found some utility in life.

 

Yes, I had a morning gently working in the garden.

 

Now I'm sitting on my arse, laughing

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

I wasn't. I was laughing at you. Not the 1st time you managed to mangle your English, is it ?
 

 

Yes, I had a morning gently working in the garden.

 

Now I'm sitting on my arse, laughing

I might be worse, you could be bothering someone.

[The Cyclist]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I might be worse, you could be bothering someone.

 

Think you might be the expert on that one.

 

But what are your thoughts on Rachel from Customer Complaints declaration in the Guardian ?

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Think you might be the expert on that one.

 

But what are your thoughts on Rachel from Customer Complaints declaration in the Guardian ?

I’ve already given my thoughts, I think Labour need to move back to the left.

[jayboy]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m rather looking forward to seeing the manifesto from Corbyn’s new party.

 

Labour need something to pull them back to the left.

 

That ship has sailed.Not only Muslim citizens but many of the under 25s in the population at large will also gravitate to Corbyn/Sultana's new party.Magic Grandpa's appeal had dimmed but is now resurgent reinforced of course by the disgust across party lines at what is happening in Gaza.The Tories are floundering and are terrified at Reform's rise.The Greens have also become a more powerful party and ideologically have much in common with Corbyn ( but have to say leadership hopeful Zak Polanski is comically unsuited for any kind of national leadership).Keir Starmer is deeply unpopular, even more so than Liz Truss by some accounts though that is hard to believe. A resurgent economy could save Labour's bacon but everybody knows that is not going to happen.

 

Incidentally your suggestion that Labour should tack to the left may be catnip for the ideologues but it is political nonsense.If Labour wants another term it should move to the centre for that is where political support is always found.Harold Wilson and above all Tony Blair understood that truth.It is also the only way to dish Reform.

 

Harold Wilson

1964: Won

1966: Won

1970: Lost

1974 (February): Won (minority government)

1974 (October): Won

 

James Callaghan

1979: Lost
 

Michael Foot

1983: Lost

 

Neil Kinnock

1987: Lost

1992: Lost

 

Tony Blair

1997: Won

2001: Won

2005: Won

 

Gordon Brown

2010: Lost

 

Ed Miliband

2015: Lost

 

Jeremy Corbyn

2017: Lost

2019: Lost

 

Keir Starmer

2024: Won 

 

 

 

[The Cyclist]

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve already given my thoughts, I think Labour need to move back to the left.

 

And how will that benefit UK Citizens ? Especially UK Taxpayers ?
 

I won't waste time listing Labour failures in their 1st year, but I do look forward to hearing how moving further left, will benefit UK Citizens / Taxpayers.

 

I'll wait.

[sammieuk1]

Sir any tier Keir will have more chance at the next election if he goes undercover even then its 10% 🤔

 

[Chomper Higgot]

29 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

And how will that benefit UK Citizens ? Especially UK Taxpayers ?
 

I won't waste time listing Labour failures in their 1st year, but I do look forward to hearing how moving further left, will benefit UK Citizens / Taxpayers.

 

I'll wait.

As I said above, I look forward to seeing Corbyn’s manifesto as I believe it will pull Labour back to the left, just like Reform UK has pulled the Tories to the right.

 

Until Labour responds we will not  know what policy changes arise or how they might benefit people in the UK/tax payers.

 

We can then have a discussion on the matter.

[Mike_Hunt]

59 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve already given my thoughts, I think Labour need to move back to the left.

The left always fails. 

[The Cyclist]

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As I said above, I look forward to seeing Corbyn’s manifesto as I believe it will pull Labour back to the left, just like Reform UK has pulled the Tories to the right.

 

That wasn't the question . The question was

 

39 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

And how will that benefit UK Citizens ? Especially UK Taxpayers ?

 

I was expecting you to rattle off a big list of benefits for UK Citizens & UK taxpayers, not deflection.