9 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

October 7th would never have happened if Israel didn't commit the Nakbah

 

 

The Palestinians are winning the war of public opinion, and they are beginning to be recognised, whether they will win any more than that is yet to be seen.

 

However, Israel has already lost.

On that, the old proverb goes: another victory like that and we are done for..

12 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

October 7th would never have happened if Israel didn't commit the Nakbah

 

 

The Palestinians are winning the war of public opinion, and they are beginning to be recognised, whether they will win any more than that is yet to be seen.

 

However, Israel has already lost.

 

   There wouldnt be any conflict or war if Palestine accepted Israel's right to exist .

   They choose war .

They cannot complin about war if thats what they wanted 

14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Of course they can't win any war, without a real army. But the image of that lifeless 6 year old body being carried by his father. I can't get it out of my mind. 

 

What a horrific image to start the day with. 

 

  Why do Palestine supporters  take such an interest in Children ?

Its like Children are the only thing that exist in Gaza 

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

his 6 year old son

 

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

 And even less that 6 year old boy 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

 6 year old son

 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

body of a 6  year old boy 

 

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 6 year old body

 

   You have mentioned it 

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, but that father was not involved in that. And even less that 6 year old boy who was killed. 

 

So that's not relevant to his death.

6am, On the morning of the 7th of October 2023, thousands of Palestinians have broken the fence and stormed in, among the many Hamas terrorists, there were many, of ''ordinary Palestinians citizens'' who joined the massacre, so don't you come up with this nonsense of the father was not involved.

23 hours ago, stevenl said:

And you accuse others of believing propaganda.

 

Believing propaganda is not so much an accusation as an observation.  People who fall for Hamas propaganda are for the  most part gullible, not criminal.  But on top of that, we can't ignore those who always want to believe the worst about Jews,  I will make that accusation when appropriate.

 

Truth is, opponents of Israel have termed as genocide what is really the loss of life among Palestinian non-combatants in the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip had been a very densely and it's therefore not surprising many civilians were killed during aerial bombardment and urban warfare, especially since Hamas fighters hide among civilians.  That's tragic, but it's not genocide or war crimes.

 

In the 77 years of its existence, the state of Israel has had many opportunities to wipe out Palestinians if it had wanted to, but history gives no evidence of that happening.  The total population of the Palestinian territories- West Bank and Gaza- has increased more than five-fold since Israel's founding in 1948, a larger increase percentage-wise than than that of Israel.

 

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/palestinian-territory-occupied/population

 

And then there are two other very significant points:  1) the growth of the Palestinian Arab population has been entirely natural, i.e., Palestinians have had a whole lot of babies; and 2)  the 155,000 Arabs who remained in Israel in 1948 have grown in number to 2.1 million in 2025, again all through new babies.   The growth in Israel's population since 1948 includes the immigration of about three million Jews over the years.

 

So how can it be that Palestinians have suffering genocide or even ethnic cleansing if their population has risen so sharply?  If Israel were really interested in getting rid of Palestinians, wouldn't it have eliminated the Arabs within its own borders instead of allowing their population to increase nearly 14 times what it had been in 1948%   About 21% of Israel's population today is Arab of Palestinian descent.

 

7 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 But the image of that lifeless 6 year old body being carried by his father. I can't get it out of my mind. 

 

I can't get the image of the body of 22-year-old Shani Louk desecrated in the back of a pick-up truck out of my mind.  She was a pacifist who had never done military service and was raped and murdered at the Nova Festival.  Her near-naked body was paraded through Gaza and Palestinian children spit on her as a final insult.

The photo on the left is the final snapshot Louk uploaded on Instagram from the festival before her death.

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Believing propaganda is not so much an accusation as an observation.  People who fall for Hamas propaganda are for the  most part gullible, not criminal.  But on top of that, we can't ignore those who always want to believe the worst about Jews,  I will make that accusation when appropriate.

You make that accusation time and time again to deflect criticism of Israel.

 

Agree though, i observe you believing IDF propaganda. You're gullible, not criminal.

12 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You make that accusation time and time again to deflect criticism of Israel.

 

Agree though, i observe you believing IDF propaganda. You're gullible, not criminal.

 

I've made that accusation only when 100% true.  The mods have removed several posts from AN threads because of antisemitic content, including in this thread.  It is distressing that anti-Jewish tropes appear and I sincerely thank the Admin and mods for removing them. For example in this thread:

 

On 8/6/2025 at 10:39 PM, Social Media said:

@WDSmart posts removed for your usual Zionist misinformation trolling.

 

On 8/29/2025 at 4:15 AM, CharlieH said:

The reported post was removed along with those quoting and responding to it.

 

hostile or abusive comments based on religion/ethnicity. 

 

Do you doubt antisemitism exists on AN and in the real world?

 

Supporting Israel  and the IDF is the opposite of gullible. Defending Israel against those who would destroy it is the best guarantee for the survival of the world's Jews, just like calling out antisemites is the best way to counter hatred of Jews.