Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m wise enough to spot your customary mendacity.

 

 

   Stop calling me a liar 

Its you who has been lying today . 

You squirmed your way out claiming that I celebrated this event .

You lied when you claimed you were talking about something lese .

You lied, stop accusing me of lying .

You lie, I tell the truth 

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Stop calling me a liar 

Its you who has been lying today . 

You squirmed your way out claiming that I celebrated this event .

You lied when you claimed you were talking about something lese .

You lied, stop accusing me of lying .

You lie, I tell the truth 

The ‘double tap’ atrocity that you referred to as a ‘glorious event’.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The ‘double tap’ atrocity that you referred to as a ‘glorious event’.

 

 

  You know and you are still squirming your way out of it .

You made a false accusation and lied about it 

Do can do that all you like, just dont call me a lair .

You can lie all you want but just dont accuse me of lying 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   OK, I'm pleased that its been established that I didn't publicly  celebrate this glorious event 

 

 

 I would like to retract that post .It was done as tongue in check and not meant to be taken seriously .

I thought that would have been obvious .

Even after explaining that it wasn't meant to be taken literally/seriously  , a poster is using that post to cover up his earlier lie .

   So, I would like to retract that post above 

On 8/25/2025 at 6:54 PM, billd766 said:

Not really. He will lie, deny that it was an attack by the IDF, try to deflect the thread to blame Hamas or anybody else, rather than admit to the truth. He is the worst kind of Zionist that you can imagine.

Becoming tiresome. 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   OK, I'm pleased that its been established that I didn't publicly  celebrate this glorious event 

Oh dear. The truth always comes out, even if accidentally.

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

 I would like to retract that post .It was done as tongue in check and not meant to be taken seriously .

I thought that would have been obvious .

Even after explaining that it wasn't meant to be taken literally/seriously  , a poster is using that post to cover up his earlier lie .

   So, I would like to retract that post above 

You’d like to retract your statement that demonstrates the truthful answer to the question I asked you.

 

I can see why that seems like a good idea to you.

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Yeah, I hope you mean Israeli scumbags. 👍

Naw they are the good guys, ridding the world of Islamacist medieval scum. They do what we tell them.

 

Remember, they are your bossess hahahahahahahahahah

3 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Oh dear. The truth always comes out, even if accidentally.

 

  You run with it .

I wont make any more tongue in cheek sarcastic posts in the future 

1 hour ago, tanner said:

 israel is a stain on this earth and should be obliterated!!.

Nice, thanks for outing.

7 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Becoming tiresome. 

 

'   EH, I clearly stated it was probably an IDF tank firing .

I believe that I was the first poster on the forum to state that it was probably IDF tank fire

   @billd766 s claims were untrue, inaccurate and unfounded . I stated that it was probably caused by the IDF

Any journalist working in an active war zone is fully aware that they could be killed at any moment..... It's their choice to be there...

 

On 8/25/2025 at 5:12 PM, ronnie50 said:

Of course any President except Trump would immediately denounce and condemn Israel for the strike against a hospital and the resulting deaths of journalists from two of its top American newsgathering agencies - the Associated Press (AP) and NBC. Wanna bet Trump just shrugs it off?

No big deal, that is the cost of supporting the terrorists. 

11 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Any journalist working in an active war zone is fully aware that they could be killed at any moment..... It's their choice to be there...

 

Which part of 'hospital' did you miss? Also, they are all Gaza natives (journalists) because Israel won't allow foreign journalists in - not to mention barring food to ease the Israeli-inflicted famine - so I guess they didn't have much choice but to be in Gaza, now did they.

20 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Any journalist working in an active war zone is fully aware that they could be killed at any moment..... It's their choice to be there...

 

Occupying forces are bound by international law not to target civilians and hospitals.

 

This was a ‘double tap’ attack, not an accident, not a mistake.

 

 

6 hours ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Local contract reporters so not really AP or NBC

So that makes it OK to kill them?

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Occupying forces are bound by international law not to target civilians and hospitals.

 

This was a ‘double tap’ attack, not an accident, not a mistake.

Humanity hating terrorists shouldnt hide behind civilians then.

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

So that makes it OK to kill them?

Depends.

Israel’s army is using a secret unit to shape narratives around Gaza, portraying Palestinian journalists as Hamas operatives to justify strikes. Analysts say the tactic silences reporters and controls the story in one of the deadliest conflicts for journalists.

 

Israel’s war in Gaza has not only been fought with drones, tanks and air strikes. It has also been waged through words, videos and carefully crafted narratives. At the heart of that effort is the army’s shadowy "Legitimisation Cell", a communications unit tasked with shaping international perceptions of the conflict.

 

According to the independent Israeli media outlet +972 Magazine, its mission is clear: to scour the lives of dead and living journalists for any trace of Hamas links, however tenuous, to justify killing them.

 

‘We are painted as targets’: How Israel puts Gaza journalists in the crosshairs

 

 

52 minutes ago, Screaming said:

No big deal, that is the cost of supporting the terrorists. 

Meanwhile, US President Donald Trump said he was unaware of the strikes, but when asked for his reaction he said he was "not happy about it".

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80d2zrdj7vo

12 hours ago, thesetat said:

Hmm... the only country i see condemning Israel attacks now is Germany and maybe a few other small EU nations. So I am confused by your comment. Why attack Trump only when not even sure what his response will be? What about China, Thailand or other Asian countries, Or other EU countries who have not said a word about it? I think you have too much Trump on the brain that you lose focus on the big picture. 

Wider reaction to the killings

 

UN Secretary General António Guterres strongly condemned the "horrific killings" at Nasser hospital, which he said "highlight the extreme risks that medical personnel and journalists face as they carry out their vital work amid this brutal conflict", and called for a "prompt, and impartial investigation".

 

The UK called the attacks "horrific" and "completely indefensible".

Prime Minister Keir Starmer's official spokesperson said journalists should always be protected and the attacks illustrated the need for a ceasefire.

 

French President Emmanuel Macron called the strikes "intolerable" and said civilians and journalists must be protected. He renewed the call for humanitarian aid to be allowed inside Gaza and for Israel "to respect international law".

 

Germany's foreign office said it was "shocked".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80d2zrdj7vo

 

What does Israel say?

 

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initially confirmed it carried out a strike in the area of Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza.

Throughout the day, Israeli officials issued multiple statements with little information in them, indicating a lack of clarity within the military about the attack but designed to address widespread outrage.

 

On Monday evening, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said Israel "deeply regrets the tragic mishap that occurred today at the Nasser Hospital in Gaza", adding that Israel "values the work of journalists, medical staff, and all civilians" and saying the military was conducting a "thorough investigation".

 

However, the statement does little to address the apparent "double-tap" nature of the attack. The fact that most of those who were killed were struck by the second attack at precisely the same location around 10 minutes later appears clearly intentional.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80d2zrdj7vo

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

“A hospital that is not used exclusively as a hospital becomes a legitimate military target.

You may not like that response, but as you are a stickler for legalities, that is an inconvenient truth.”

 

Now let’s see you demonstrate three things:

 

1. That’s argument that has any standing in international law.

2. That the hospital was used for anything other than as a hospital.

 

3. That journalists at a hospital makes the hospital and the journalists a legitimate target,

 

 

 

 

1. The definition of military target is set out in international law. we have already had this discussion previously. You can start with Protocol 1 of the Geneva Convention (1977 ver.) Protocol 1 defines a military objective as an object which, by its nature, location, purpose, or use, makes an effective contribution to military action and whose total or partial destruction, capture, or neutralization, in the circumstances ruling at the time, offers a definite military advantage.

 

2. If the "hospital" hosted Hamas or other militant meetings, served as a logistics center, munitions depot or convenient  place of refuge for militants, it becomes a legitimate target.  The images of tunnels, munitions supplies, computer and data centers used by Hamas was previously demonstrated in other  "civilian" purpose  buildings including hospitals.

The strike on the building was not broad and was specific to one area. This is a condition of targeting a civilian declared property that is being used for military purposes.

 

3. Why were so many "journalists" on one floor? What event was going on. to date, no one has asked or explained why so many "journalists" were in the area that was hit. It has already been established that Hamas fighters are often described as "journalists". It provides excellent cover for militants to move around. Gaza has a large  number of individuals who are not actually employees of news organizations, but who make submissions as "independent stringers".

When is a journalist a journalist and not a member of the Hamas propaganda  unit tasked with spreading the Hamas political line? Can you guarantee that the dead are indeed not Hamas affiliated?

 

Ideally, a hospital should be used as a hospital and not as a work space for people who identify as a journalists. If the premises are damaged in a war, is it reasonable to present the building as a hospital if it was not actually a hospital. In previous weeks the facility was described as closed and the shortage of medical staff and supplies was blamed. In June, it ceased functioning as a hospital when the competing Gaza factions used it as a confrontation point and turned the building into a battle zone.  and And yet, on the day of the attack it is described as a hospital. That's quite a miraculous turnaround. Where did all the  supplies come from if there are allegedly no medical supplies entering Gaza as Hamas and its supporters claim.

 

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Humanity hating terrorists shouldnt hide behind civilians then.

The second hit killed journalists and rescue workers.

Please tell how they were hiding behind civilians.

There is no proof Hamas have been using human shields in the last year, only allegation by, guess who, Israel and US of A.

 

1 hour ago, bannork said:

What does Israel say?

 

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initially confirmed it carried out a strike in the area of Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza.

Throughout the day, Israeli officials issued multiple statements with little information in them, indicating a lack of clarity within the military about the attack but designed to address widespread outrage.

 

On Monday evening, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said Israel "deeply regrets the tragic mishap that occurred today at the Nasser Hospital in Gaza", adding that Israel "values the work of journalists, medical staff, and all civilians" and saying the military was conducting a "thorough investigation".

 

However, the statement does little to address the apparent "double-tap" nature of the attack. The fact that most of those who were killed were struck by the second attack at precisely the same location around 10 minutes later appears clearly intentional.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80d2zrdj7vo

But they came as close as they ever will to apologise so I'm sure that will be a great comfort to the bereaved families!!

They sure do make a lot of mistakes like killing the ambulance crew and denying the scenario until film footage was found. 

I've read all the posts and hand on heart I think we have some psychopaths on this forum yagoda for one needs a lobotomy he is 100% nut job

22 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

1. The definition of military target is set out in international law. we have already had this discussion previously. You can start with Protocol 1 of the Geneva Convention (1977 ver.) Protocol 1 defines a military objective as an object which, by its nature, location, purpose, or use, makes an effective contribution to military action and whose total or partial destruction, capture, or neutralization, in the circumstances ruling at the time, offers a definite military advantage.

 

2. If the "hospital" hosted Hamas or other militant meetings, served as a logistics center, munitions depot or convenient  place of refuge for militants, it becomes a legitimate target.  The images of tunnels, munitions supplies, computer and data centers used by Hamas was previously demonstrated in other  "civilian" purpose  buildings including hospitals.

The strike on the building was not broad and was specific to one area. This is a condition of targeting a civilian declared property that is being used for military purposes.

 

3. Why were so many "journalists" on one floor? What event was going on. to date, no one has asked or explained why so many "journalists" were in the area that was hit. It has already been established that Hamas fighters are often described as "journalists". It provides excellent cover for militants to move around. Gaza has a large  number of individuals who are not actually employees of news organizations, but who make submissions as "independent stringers".

When is a journalist a journalist and not a member of the Hamas propaganda  unit tasked with spreading the Hamas political line? Can you guarantee that the dead are indeed not Hamas affiliated?

 

Ideally, a hospital should be used as a hospital and not as a work space for people who identify as a journalists. If the premises are damaged in a war, is it reasonable to present the building as a hospital if it was not actually a hospital. In previous weeks the facility was described as closed and the shortage of medical staff and supplies was blamed. In June, it ceased functioning as a hospital when the competing Gaza factions used it as a confrontation point and turned the building into a battle zone.  and And yet, on the day of the attack it is described as a hospital. That's quite a miraculous turnaround. Where did all the  supplies come from if there are allegedly no medical supplies entering Gaza as Hamas and its supporters claim.

 

You are so wrong in many areas. My words would be wasted, you foolishly believe Israel propaganda.

5 minutes ago, JimCM said:

The second hit killed journalists and rescue workers.

Please tell how they were hiding behind civilians.

There is no proof Hamas have been using human shields in the last year, only allegation by, guess who, Israel and US of A.

 

Release the hostages or keep dying. 

4 minutes ago, Dave0206 said:

I've read all the posts and hand on heart I think we have some psychopaths on this forum yagoda for one needs a lobotomy he is 100% nut job

100% agree. However, I understand how those brought up Jewish feel mixed loyalties. 

1 hour ago, bannork said:

According to the independent Israeli media outlet +972 Magazine, its mission is clear: to scour the lives of dead and living journalists for any trace of Hamas links, however tenuous, to justify killing them.

Why bother. If they are in the vicinity of Hamas they need to die with their buddies. War is hell, dont start one. Release the hostages of die.

Just now, JimCM said:

100% agree. However, I understand how those brought up Jewish feel mixed loyalties. 

Thanks for outing LOL.