6 hours ago, norsurin said:

Right.Some girls say they been wery busy and no time for replying a msg.It only take a second to send a sticker i use to say.And often they then get upset.I don't care..just stop talking with them.

 

Which is of course exactly the right thing to do. You're right, a message, a text, doesn't take longer than 15 seconds.. Nobody works 4 hours straight. They take breaks. So if she's not messaging you, this means she is not that interested in you. Simple as that. 

 

I have other girls who are so interested in me that they don't stop messaging me, call me all the time, to the point it becomes annoying. 

 

You can gauge her interest by how often she is texting you. And like you say, if she's not showing interest, if she's not texting you, it's better to walk away rather than argue about it. You live and learn.

13 hours ago, Wingate said:

I'll add that the concept of a "decent" woman has also changed. Go to a club like Sugar or Levels, and one can find Thai office women or nurses or accountants....and they are not looking for money. Many are looking for a partner for the night or one that might turn into something longer term

 

Yeah, go out clubbing. That's where the action is at.

Clubbing is for 20 year olds. 

 

It makes no difference if you meet a girl in a club.

Dating will become a big responsibility real quick in Thailand.

 

The economy is not that great and wages are not that great for most women. 

As an older expat, you're faced with a lot of single mothers with children from previous marriages here.

Good luck as an older expat finding a woman with a decent career and wages, who doesn't need to send money to her parents, who is not a single mother, who has a good job and doesn't need a lot of financial support, and doesn't have a bunch of debts. 

 

The obsession with "bar girls" is over-rated. The dating scene in general is not happy go lucky. Some of these women on dating sites have 3 children from failed marriages. 

 

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I am not queer.

 

But my boyfriend is.

 

   No, I'm not .

21 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Are sociopaths/narcissists morelikely to chose a bargirl as a gf 

You forgot to include Psychopaths in your question 

21 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Empaths take into consideration whether or not a girlfriend or wife actually likes them and actually wants to be with them. Emphaths will not want to be with someone who didn’t actually want to be with them and only pretended to want them because they are being paid to pretend.

Having sex with someone who doesn’t really want have sex with them is unappealing. Feels similar to raping someone.

 

Whereas this simply doesn’t matter to a sociopath or narcissist as they only ever consider their own feelings.

It simply isn’t a consideration for them. Doesn’t occur to them.

Sociopaths/Narcissists actually prefer to control people and what could be more controlling than taking a bargirl (often much younger and less educated) out of the bar, taking away her source of income and then have her to rely on him for everything in a full time role mostly losing all her freedom as well.

 

Sociopaths/ Narcissists don’t feel love, but they love control. It is an ideal opportunity.

 

On the other hand studies have shown that prostitutes also have higher percentages of Antisocial Personality Disorders but these types are unlikely to get into a relationship with another narcissist or sociopath that they can not manipulate easily. It just wouldn’t work. They would prefer to milk as many suckers as possible to maximize earnings. They will prey on other personality types.

 

 

 

 

True sociopaths are perfectly comfortable having sex with prostitutes. The very need for a permanent partner, however, already suggests a non-sociopathic trait, because it reflects a desire for emotional connection. Many men who fall in love with bargirls are not sociopaths but rather delusional: they convince themselves that the woman is genuinely interested in them, when in reality her involvement is driven by financial motives.

11 hours ago, Hellfire said:

True sociopaths are perfectly comfortable having sex with prostitutes.

 

It's mostly farangs who obsess and make such a big deal out of prostitution.

 

The economy is not that great here. There's no high tech industry like Silicon Valley. People do what they need to do to survive. 

 

Most westerners have grown up in privileged countries where decent jobs were abundant.

 

If you can wrap your mind around the fact that there aren't enough decent jobs to go around in Thailand, then you can stop exaggerating and labeling people "sociopaths".

 

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

As an older expat, you're faced with a lot of single mothers with children from previous marriages here.

Personally i think I would prefer a hooker for a wife than a single mother.

 

Looking after your own kids would be a big enough hassle let alone looking after some other man’s children.

She will always put the kids first no matter how much you provided.

Disgusting & unnecessary comment removed.

 

 

@MalcolmB

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Hellfire said:

but rather delusional: they convince themselves that the woman is genuinely interested in them, when in reality her involvement is driven by financial motives.

They are a bit immature to believe it.

Maybe emotionally immature and very inexperienced with women.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

The economy is not that great here. There's no high tech industry like Silicon Valley. People do what they need to do to survive. 

I think that is a bit of a myth.

From what I have seen there is a lot of opportunities here, but many don’t want to put in the work.

There is a lot more opportunities here than in many poorer countries which don’t rely on prostitution as much as Thailand.

 

 

2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

From what I have seen there is a lot of opportunities here

 

Let's suppose you won the Powerball lottery and you got a 340 million USD payout after taxes lump sum. How would you then structure everything, would you stay in Phuket? Buy villas in Bali and Hoi An, or would you stay in Thailand?

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Let's suppose you won the Powerball lottery and you got a 340 million USD payout after taxes lump sum. How would you then structure everything, would you stay in Phuket? Buy villas in Bali and Hoi An, or would you stay in Thailand?

I would stay in Phuket, Thailand.

Thailand is the best country in the world, and Phuket is the best province in Thailand if you can afford it.

If there was a better country in the world I would have moved there not here.

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I would stay in Phuket, Thailand.

Thailand is the best country in the world, and Phuket is the best province in Thailand if you can afford it.

If there was a better country in the world I would have moved there not here.

 

You wouldn't diversify, get a ski chalet in Switzerland or Austria for the winter, or a villa at Lake Como in Italy to pass the rainy summer months?

I would attempt to buy Ermis II. 

 

Then live for a while in the Aegean. 

 

Or I suppose I could simply lease it for the duration?

Just now, VocalNeal said:

I would attempt to buy Ermis II. 

 

Then live for a while in the Aegean. 

 

What an interesting idea. You could of course buy a yacht and cruise South-East Asia as well.

11 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Personally i think I would prefer a hooker for a wife than a single mother.

 

Do you even live in Thailand?

You don't think that 90% of those girls in bars are single mothers?

 

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Which is of course exactly the right thing to do. You're right, a message, a text, doesn't take longer than 15 seconds.. Nobody works 4 hours straight. They take breaks. So if she's not messaging you, this means she is not that interested in you. Simple as that. 

 

I have other girls who are so interested in me that they don't stop messaging me, call me all the time, to the point it becomes annoying. 

 

You can gauge her interest by how often she is texting you. And like you say, if she's not showing interest, if she's not texting you, it's better to walk away rather than argue about it. You live and learn.

True.Some is annoying because txt to often and ask alot.Want to know what im doing.,with who..eating with who..where i am etc etc.And showing me that this kind of girls i don't want to meet.They start to get jealous..thats a big red flag for me.

5 minutes ago, norsurin said:

True.Some is annoying because txt to often and ask alot.Want to know what im doing.,with who..eating with who..where i am etc etc.And showing me that this kind of girls i don't want to meet.They start to get jealous..thats a big red flag for me.

 

Unfortunately we live in a hypergamy trap, girls only want to date up, so if girls are interested in us, that means, as a rule, that they are below us in the sexual market value. Which means that the girls we really want  think they are too good for us, and the girls that want us, we think we're too god for them, lol.

11 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Then live for a while in the Aegean.

 

Save up for a trip to Mars when Elon sorts it out. 

46 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You wouldn't diversify, get a ski chalet in Switzerland or Austria for the winter, or a villa at Lake Como in Italy to pass the rainy summer months?

No, I think I would just have more threesomes probably.

I don’t like Italians, so Lake Combo is not an option.

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Save up for a trip to Mars when Elon sorts it out. 

Or maybe a submarine trip to the Titanic?

39 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Do you even live in Thailand?

You don't think that 90% of those girls in bars are single mothers?

 

I always vette them before putting down a deposit.

 

The trick is not to ask “Do you have kids” because they will lie.

I ask them “How many kids do you have”.

 

i prefer the gogos because you see them naked and can tell if they have kids or not.

 

Bargirls have lied to me before, off comes the bra and the saggy milkers, the stretch marked stomach and the not so tight …..you know what I am talking about.

 

I am like Elvis, mothers are a big no go zone.

4 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

No, I think I would just have more threesomes probably.

I don’t like Italians, so Lake Combo is not an option.

 

Okay, so no Lake Como, but you have 300 million USD, so why restrict yourselves to threesomes in Phuket? Brazil, Prague, Hungary, Colombia, no other places you'd go, even for a visiit? You'd just be based in Phuket?

22 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Which means that the girls we really want  think they are too good for us,

Which is why I always tell them I am a rich surgeon and put them down a lot to bring them down a peg or two.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Okay, so no Lake Como, but you have 300 million USD, so why restrict yourselves to threesomes in Phuket? Brazil, Prague, Hungary, Colombia, no other places you'd go, even for a visiit? You'd just be based in Phuket?

I would go on holidays like I do now. 
I have all the time in the world.

Just now, MalcolmB said:

I would go on holidays like I do now. 
I have all the time in the world.

 

Like where? Where would you go?

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Like where? Where would you go?

I am thinking Brazil, Columbia, Switzerland, Prague, Hungary again.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Like where? Where would you go?

I wouldnt do much. Hire a premium car and stay in nice resorts in Thailand. 

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

I wouldnt do much. Hire a premium car and stay in nice resorts in Thailand. 

 

After seeing Thailand non-stop you'd still drive around Thailand, even though you have 300 million in the bank and could go anywhere?

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

After seeing Thailand non-stop you'd still drive around Thailand, even though you have 300 million in the bank and could go anywhere?

I might go to Spain but most countries not interested. Visit all Thai islands in premium bungalows. I love bungalows.