18 minutes ago, Airalee said:

I think he’s talking about the compound ‘berberine’ (comes from berberis vulgaris plant and other sources)

 

Here’s what I found regarding berberine…

 

Results: Berberine exerted inhibitory effects on the migratory and invasive abilities of highly metastatic prostate cancer cells. These inhibitory effects of berberine resulted in significant repression of a panel of mesenchymal genes that regulate the developmental EMT. Among EMT-related genes downregulated by berberine, high BMP7, NODAL and Snail gene expressions of metastatic prostate cancer tissues were associated with shorter survival of prostate cancer patients and provide potential therapeutic interventions.

Conclusions: We concluded that berberine should be developed as a pharmacological agent for use in combination with other anticancer drug for treating metastatic prostate cancer.

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4278877/#:~:text=Berberine inhibits migration and invasion,of cancer cells (19).

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15 minutes ago, TimBKK said:

hmmmmmmmmm 🤔
 

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5 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Are homeopathic medicine not a similar thing, a small dose stimulates the immune system

 

Just because this thread's title is nonsensical, no need to bring more nonsense here.  We're already up to our eyeballs with quack science.

 

Why do idiots cause stupidity?

 

That about sums up this rhetorical thread title.

 

And why do I see these threads show up in my unread content when I have blocked said idiots?  Please fix this!

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I know that they are not your words, although you might believe them, and you didn't construct the image yourself, but I must say; it is monumental humbug.

 

The facts simply do not support you post.

 

The facts do. You are unable to dispute those facts without resorting to false claims, lies and  fabrications.

 

I've probably had about a dozen mRNA shots now.  I can't get enough of them.  It's an amazing medical breakthrough which is why the inventors got a Nobel Prize for it. 

 

If there is a sign saying vaccine shots available here, I will sign up for whatever it is.  I got my second Twinrix shot the other day.  Had the 3 Twinrix shots about 10 years ago and doctor told me that immunity is gone now so time to do it again.  Getting a Shingrix shot soon.   New covid and influenza shots should be available in the next month or two for the fall season, and I will be one of the first to get those.  I love vaccines.  If they come out with a new vaccine for something, I will be right there waiting to get it. 

 

Why would I do this to myself you may ask?  The answer is that I listen to the experts and read the scientific literature. I am not an idiot who believes in conspiracies and pseudoscience listening to tin foil hat people who know little or nothing about it and don't know any better pretending to know what they are talking about.

23 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The facts do. You are unable to dispute those facts without resorting to false claims, lies and  fabrications.

The research that I can quote shows BLM's post to be nonsense, Yours too.

 

All you are doing is reading MSM compromised rubbish. Open you mind. Exercise your inquisitive nature Sir.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

We do not have an immune system as such. We do have a maintenance/defence system however. Constantly on the go; keeping us well

 

Yes, it's called the immune system. 🤔

 

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There is no virus, or part of one, in a vaccine. Any virus. Any vaccine.

 

Your statement is somewhat at odds with post-vaccination immunoglobulin tests which show antibodies in the blood that specifically target the virus.

34 minutes ago, Miloki said:

If only there were more people like you, willing to give their body to science this way.  We could probably cut years off safety studies, maybe even eliminate rat studies completely and get straight to business.

I'm totally inspired.  I'm guessing you are not a boomer because no boomer would behave so selflessly.  Maybe I had you all wrong or maybe you are just a special one.  Regardless, my hat is off to you.

I just hope you are being smart about this and doing regular bloodwork and physical evaluations. I would hate to see all this effort and dedication go for naught because you kept crappy records.  Document your commitment please, for the kids, for the flat earthers, the vax deniers, and for the shot pushers.  Hell, do it for RFK Jr and your country, do it for Kamala, do it just to show the migrants what it means to be a true patriot.

Thank you for service! Amazing!! 🙏

I can see future generations dedicating statues to folks like you, real heroes.  You stood up and said, yes, I volunteer for this shot.  And not only once, every single time there was a chance to do another one, you found a way to do two, maybe three on a holiday weekend.

I never believed any of those cocaine rat experiments,  I knew those rats were just seeking recognition for their dedication to science.  Pathfinders in their own way.

I was on the list for the the next chickenpox party back home.  I was afraid my immunity might be waning since no one has chickenpox anymore.  But I think now, I'm going to get the Shingles vax right before the party and prove all those antivaxers wrong. I'll show them all who has the best antibodies!

Bravo for the encouragement!


 

 

 

Cool story bro.

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, shdmn said:

 

 

So you disagree with the convicted felon con man?

 

 

 

 

I'm looking forward to scientific inquiry.  Should have happened a long time ago.  Definitely should have happened before jabbing 3/4 of the planet, especially those at low risk and those who already had COVID.

I actually hope the vax proved effective and it was worth the damage and death it did to some individuals.

Thats the best case for this experiment and I hope it so.  

Not all vaccines cause the illness.  But all stimulate the body's immune  system.  Some vaccines use inert pieces of the disease's proteing (polio vaccines are a good example of this),  these cannot ever cause the disease but can trigger an immune response.  Some vaccines do use live but weakened strains of the disease which can cause mild forms of the disease

9 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

Yes, it's called the immune system. 🤔

 

Your statement is somewhat at odds with post-vaccination immunoglobulin tests which show antibodies in the blood that specifically target the virus.

I don't agree.

 

Point me to a link to an experiment that has shown a virus (any virus) has been isolated.

 

",,,post-vaccination immunoglobulin tests which show antibodies in the blood that specifically target the virus."

 

This statement relates to lab petri-dish observation. Nothing to do with the real world of nature. This is simply white-coat mumbo-jumbo. I say that is is not possible, or at least it was when I was involved in such matters. No virus found then. No virus found now.

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On 9/5/2025 at 8:15 AM, Red Phoenix said:

Revealing The Forgotten Science of Vaccine Disease Provocation

 

The concept of "disease provocation" presented in the text is not a standard term in modern immunology. From a mainstream medical and scientific viewpoint, the idea that a vaccine can give you the disease it's designed to prevent is generally considered misinformation - something that our prize misinformant @Red Phoenix excels at from their basement.

 

The rest of us know how most modern vaccines are made:

 

1. Inactivated (Killed) Vaccines: Many vaccines, like the injected flu shot, contain viruses that have been killed. These are not capable of replicating or causing disease. They present a non-functional version of the virus to the immune system to teach it what to recognize later.

   

2. Subunit, Recombinant, and mRNA/DNA Vaccines: These vaccines don't use the whole virus at all. Instead, they use a specific protein (like the spike protein in COVID-19 vaccines) or genetic instructions for producing that protein. This is enough to trigger an immune response but, by itself, cannot cause the disease.

 

3. Live-Attenuated Vaccines: A few vaccines, such as those for measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR), contain a weakened, or "attenuated," form of the virus. While this virus is alive, it's been modified so it can't cause the full-blown disease in a healthy person. In very rare cases, an immunocompromised individual might develop a mild form of the illness from a live-attenuated vaccine.

 

The symptoms people report after vaccination—fever, aches, and fatigue—are not the disease itself. They are a sign that the immune system is building a protective response to the vaccine. This is the body's normal reaction to any foreign substance and is a sign that the vaccine is working.

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1 minute ago, WorriedNoodle said:

 

The concept of "disease provocation" presented in the text is not a standard term in modern immunology. From a mainstream medical and scientific viewpoint, the idea that a vaccine can give you the disease it's designed to prevent is generally considered misinformation - something that our prize misinformant @Red Phoenix excels at from their basement.

 

The rest of us know how most modern vaccines are made:

 

1. Inactivated (Killed) Vaccines: Many vaccines, like the injected flu shot, contain viruses that have been killed. These are not capable of replicating or causing disease. They present a non-functional version of the virus to the immune system to teach it what to recognize later.

   

2. Subunit, Recombinant, and mRNA/DNA Vaccines: These vaccines don't use the whole virus at all. Instead, they use a specific protein (like the spike protein in COVID-19 vaccines) or genetic instructions for producing that protein. This is enough to trigger an immune response but, by itself, cannot cause the disease.

 

3. Live-Attenuated Vaccines: A few vaccines, such as those for measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR), contain a weakened, or "attenuated," form of the virus. While this virus is alive, it's been modified so it can't cause the full-blown disease in a healthy person. In very rare cases, an immunocompromised individual might develop a mild form of the illness from a live-attenuated vaccine.

 

The symptoms people report after vaccination—fever, aches, and fatigue—are not the disease itself. They are a sign that the immune system is building a protective response to the vaccine. This is the body's normal reaction to any foreign substance and is a sign that the vaccine is working.

I do not agree with the above.

 

1. Inactivated (Killed) Vaccines: There is no virus what so ever in this type of vaccine.

 

2. Subunit, Recombinant, and mRNA/DNA Vaccines: These vaxxes are designed in a computer. IMO, there is no such thing as a spike protein.

 

3. Live-Attenuated Vaccines: A few vaccines, such as those for measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR), contain a weakened, or "attenuated," form of the virus. Absolute catbasket. Have a read of Dr Ender's 1954 measles experiments.

 

The symptoms people report after vaccination—fever, aches, and fatigue—are not the disease itself. They are a sign that the immune system is building a protective response to the vaccine. This is the body's normal reaction to any foreign substance and is a sign that the vaccine is working.

 

Vaccines are seen as poisons to the body. Some of their ingredients are put in there as irritants (adjuvants). As soon as the vaxx hits the bloods, maybe even on the penetration insult, globulins are mustered and sent in as soldiers to fight the invader. The symptoms one might get is a result of the body's defence system at work.

I remember visiting Berkeley Castle in Gloucestershire as a schoolboy, and learning about Edward Jenner's work on immunising vaccinations which he carried out there. His discovery being that exposure to a small dose of the relatively benign disease of cowpox prevented contracting the far more serious similar disease of smallpox.

 

Roughly at the same time, the French philosopher and author Voltaire remarked that 60% of the population caught smallpox, and 20% died from it.

 

Smallpox was virtually eliminated through immunisation. Polio has also been virtually eliminated, as have measles and associated diseases.

5 minutes ago, JAG said:

I remember visiting Berkeley Castle in Gloucestershire as a schoolboy, and learning about Edward Jenner's work on immunising vaccinations which he carried out there. His discovery being that exposure to a small dose of the relatively benign disease of cowpox prevented contracting the far more serious similar disease of smallpox.

 

Roughly at the same time, the French philosopher and author Voltaire remarked that 60% of the population caught smallpox, and 20% died from it.

 

Smallpox was virtually eliminated through immunisation. Polio has also been virtually eliminated, as have measles and associated diseases.

 

When did you visit Berkeley castle ?

 

Your post is very similar to google.

 

21 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I do not agree with the above.

That's ok dear, you are free to believe whatever you like as long as you cause no harm to anyone else. However I would say arguing with science based facts is living in cloud cookoo land.

8 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

The symptoms people report after vaccination—fever, aches, and fatigue—are not the disease itself. They are a sign that the immune system is building a protective response to the vaccine. This is the body's normal reaction to any foreign substance and is a sign that the vaccine is working.

 

This is one of my favorite responses.  Has anyone here just woken up from a 5 year coma and never heard this line before?

Should I ask my Doc for another flu shot if I don't feel sick?  What about tetanus?  Hep B?

In a normal world, we would question being knocked out for a day or two after a shot.  Especially one you have had before.  But no, here we have experts telling you this is actually healthy for you.  It's an absolutely ridiculous assertion.   But they are right about one thing, you didn't get a placebo.

18 minutes ago, Miloki said:

 

This is one of my favorite responses.  Has anyone here just woken up from a 5 year coma and never heard this line before?

Should I ask my Doc for another flu shot if I don't feel sick?  What about tetanus?  Hep B?

In a normal world, we would question being knocked out for a day or two after a shot.  Especially one you have had before.  But no, here we have experts telling you this is actually healthy for you.  It's an absolutely ridiculous assertion.   But they are right about one thing, you didn't get a placebo.

 

There are no credible reports of anyone being "knocked out for a day or two" following tetanus, measles or other general vaccines, let alone entering a 5 year coma.

 

31 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

When did you visit Berkeley castle ?

 

Your post is very similar to google.

 

What.

No way.

15 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

When the pustules are that bad, it is usually a blood problem. The body is desperately trying to get rid of the toxic elements causing the problem.

 

If I was the lad's physician, I'd be looking at previous times. Including medical interventions. Get to the root causes.

 

 

If you were his physician he wouldn't even see his next birthday.

 

 

More anti-vax lies from Stiddle and Red. Walking away from one of the most significant medical advances ever is not smart.

1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

 

There are no credible reports of anyone being "knocked out for a day or two" following tetanus, measles or other general vaccines, let alone entering a 5 year coma.

If you wish to forgo tetanus or hepatitis B vaccine by all means do so, but please don't come demanding urgent care when you contract Hepatitis B after a night of wanton pleasure in Boyztown Pattaya, or infection following a puncture wound. 

 

 

Thank god, I was worried it wasn't working and I needed another.

10 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said:

That's ok dear, you are free to believe whatever you like as long as you cause no harm to anyone else. However I would say arguing with science based facts is living in cloud cookoo land.

Cannot science be open to scrutiny?

 

There is so little 'science' in modern medicine. Much of what we learn growing up, and indeed, what western doctors are taught, is quackery; plain and simple.

So sad that people on here support this moron......

 

 

52 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

When did you visit Berkeley castle ?

 

Your post is very similar to google.

 

I was at King Edward's School in Bath; then a direct grant grammar school. Every year in the Summer term, after exams, the school held "field trips" to reasonably local (2 hours or so) sites. It must have been in my 4th year, so 1973? That years trip centred around history ( Berkeley Castle was the site of King Edward II's particularly gruesome murder) and science - Jenner's work.

 

I certainly used Wikipedia to confirm Voltaire's quote - I vaguely remembered it but wanted to confirm it. I didn't use "Google" but as very many school trips have visited Berkeley Castle over the generations I am not surprised that it merits a mention!

 

Anyway I am deeply flattered that you were enthusiastic enough about my fairly inconsequential post to dig around on the internet to try and find somewhat spurious grounds to accuse me of plagerising Google - if that is possible; conspiracy theory at it's finest!

 

In case you are bored and wish for a focus for your internet activities, hold onto your tinfoil hat! Previous and subsequent years' field trips included visits to Lulworth Cove (geography), Swindon Railway Museum (history and science) and Chedworth Roman Villa (history and classics). We also had CCF ( school Cadet Force) camps at Cultybraggan in Scotland, Detmold in West Germany, Penhale in Cornwall as well as the CCF rifle meet at Bisley. I am sure they will be in "Google" as well. Fill your boots!

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