7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Still many here claimed the left for the murders

Simply because nobody on the left ever speaks out against the vile rhetoric. If you ain’t against it, then you must be in agreement for it. 

2 minutes ago, novacova said:

The left is rightly labeled as a whole due to the fact that they lack a clear delineation between the extremest and non extremest. No one on the left has any courage, will or desire to stand up lead and pull away, you all are getting sucked in, you’re frik’n loosing it. The democrats, or what’s left of them is a wasteland, they have no will and just go along to get along and are like “ok, I guess this is what we’re doing now” 

Im not even a left, and share values from both sides which I consider as a middle point. 

 

And same goes for you who cant see your own flaws when it comes to the political environment point of you shooting at each other with the same ammunition from each sides of the table. The difference, is the president who also only shoots from one side, and do not manage or being able to speak for both camps, and then I speak about the moderate camps on both side, and not the extremists. 

8 minutes ago, TedG said:

Half of the replies were from the  kind of people of the left trashing the victim. 

Poor attempt, 

7 hours ago, angryguy said:

Once deemed the party of progress. The good people are becoming fans of trump at ever increasing rate. Should democrats rebrand into something else? Im thinking the libertarian party. What do you think

I typically try to use words that would give the correct mental image that I would like to convey.

The mental image in my mind, related to 'hate and violence', is totally different from the mental image that I get from the word 'libertarian'.

Perhaps the 'autocrat' party.

Would not win a majority of adherents...

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Poor attempt, 

Poor reply. 

15 minutes ago, TedG said:

The left loves ANTIFA.

 

On Aug. 29, 2020, that violence culminated in murder when a 48-year-old volunteer security “officer” for BLM-Antifa killed a Trump supporter in the city’s downtown. 

 

https://nypost.com/2021/01/30/how-a-portland-radical-murdered-a-trump-supporter/

 

The ANTIFA are a collective of fanatical thugs.

 

It's time they are taken head on. 

 

Hopefully Trump will now send the government forces after them, since we now know the killer of Charles Kirk was an ANTIFA leftist.

22 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im not even a left, and share values from both sides which I consider as a middle point. 

 

And same goes for you who cant see your own flaws when it comes to the political environment point of you shooting at each other with the same ammunition from each sides of the table. The difference, is the president who also only shoots from one side, and do not manage or being able to speak for both camps, and then I speak about the moderate camps on both side, and not the extremists. 

The days of values of the US democrats are nearly long gone and most likely never return. Was a Kennedy dem decades ago, that party left while some remained to watch that ship slowly sink. Back in the day, RFK Jr was considered an extremest, remember reading some of his stuff and thought the guy was an extremest loon too far left, his stance and values haven’t changed in the slightest, it’s the extremest that have moved away, that’s the indicator. Most of the folks on the left are simply blinded by the media and are not paying any attention to and aware of how they arrived at this point.

'The left is the side of hate and violence'.
 

Seems like, as with most MAGA, facts aren’t the author’s strong point.

Actually, violence and hate tell a different story.
 

Right-wing extremists were responsible for the great majority of extremist-related murders over the decade 2011–2020.



https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2020

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

I've lost a bunch of jobs.

Had nothing to do with the president.

It's life. For many people, jobs for life don't exist anymore. 

Industries die.

The boss may not like you.

No President can guarantee that you will have a job for life. 

You gotta roll with the punches. And contrary to what naysayers on AN say, there are welfare programs to help you back on your feet if you find yourself in trouble. 

With some of the nonsense you post, I can see why you lost jobs.

 

 

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

'The left is the side of hate and violence'.
 

Seems like, as with most MAGA, facts aren’t the author’s strong point.

Actually, violence and hate tell a different story.
 

Right-wing extremists were responsible for the great majority of extremist-related murders over the decade 2011–2020.



https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2020

 

The ADL is a Marxist ultra-left organisation though.

 

How can we trust any figures they provide? The reality is quite different:

 

For the past three years, I have tracked public support for political violence, and the data are unequivocal: fewer than 2 percent of Americans believe political murder is acceptable. The core problem is not a widespread desire for violence, but a profound misperception of the other side. My data also show that Americans estimate nearly a third of their political opponents support partisan murder. This belief that one is facing a vast, murderous faction — rather than a few isolated extremists — creates a phantom enemy that makes the country feel far more dangerous than it actually is.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-political-violence-expert-analysis-00558638

11 hours ago, Lacessit said:

With some of the nonsense you post, I can see why you lost jobs.

 

 

 

You son of a gun.

To be continued .... 

 

14 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

'The left is the side of hate and violence'.
 

Seems like, as with most MAGA, facts aren’t the author’s strong point.

Actually, violence and hate tell a different story.
 

Right-wing extremists were responsible for the great majority of extremist-related murders over the decade 2011–2020.



https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2020

 

This also does not capture when ANTIFA mobs go on a rampage and cause 2 billion USD worth of property damage.

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

This also does not capture when ANTIFA mobs go on a rampage and cause 2 billion USD worth of property damage.

Have they stormed the Capitol and tried to overturn an election?

No, that was MAGA, wasn't it. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good pearl clutching session!

 

1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

Have they stormed the Capitol and tried to overturn an election?

No, that was MAGA, wasn't it. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good pearl clutching session!

 

 

In 2020, the American people watched as riots raged, causing an estimated two billion dollars in damages and chaos across our country. Minneapolis, Kenosha, other such places, we saw courthouses and police facilities in Portland and Seattle, and even the very notion of government control, targeted with months of sustained violence.

Any notion that this was a phenomenon limited to a specific time or region gave way more recently to the specter of left-wing activists carrying out a sustained, violent campaign against a Public Safety Training Center under development in Atlanta. The agitators — several of whom were arrested on terrorism charges — attacked law enforcement with rocks, bricks, Molotov cocktails, and commercial-grade fireworks. This is not what peaceful protest looks like.

 

https://homeland.house.gov/2023/05/16/subcommittee-chair-bishop-its-past-time-we-recognize-left-wing-violence-for-what-it-is/

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

In 2020, the American people watched as riots raged, causing an estimated two billion dollars in damages and chaos across our country. Minneapolis, Kenosha, other such places, we saw courthouses and police facilities in Portland and Seattle, and even the very notion of government control, targeted with months of sustained violence.

Any notion that this was a phenomenon limited to a specific time or region gave way more recently to the specter of left-wing activists carrying out a sustained, violent campaign against a Public Safety Training Center under development in Atlanta. The agitators — several of whom were arrested on terrorism charges — attacked law enforcement with rocks, bricks, Molotov cocktails, and commercial-grade fireworks. This is not what peaceful protest looks like.

 

https://homeland.house.gov/2023/05/16/subcommittee-chair-bishop-its-past-time-we-recognize-left-wing-violence-for-what-it-is/

So not in the same league as MAGA then, not even close.

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Have they stormed the Capitol and tried to overturn an election?

No, that was MAGA, wasn't it. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good pearl clutching session!

 

And your BLM hoards only killed between 25 and 30 people. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

And only caused approximately $ 1 to $ 2 billion in insured property damage.  

 

 

Not bad for mostly peaceful. 

7 hours ago, angryguy said:

You need to come up with worse things because trump is not saying or doing anything nearly as bad as the terrorist and criminal supporting left

 

trump didnt aienate canada he alienated trudeau

Tell that to the manufacturers of Kentucky bourbon, for example

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

violent campaign against a Public Safety Training Center under development in Atlanta.

This was left cospaying as soldiers to stop the project.  

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So not in the same league as MAGA then, not even close.

Why not? 

14 minutes ago, TedG said:

And your BLM hoards only killed between 25 and 30 people. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

And only caused approximately $ 1 to $ 2 billion in insured property damage.  

 

 

Not bad for mostly peaceful. 

Liar.

 

From the article you linked:

"At least 11 Americans have been killed while participating in political demonstrations this year and another 14 have died in other incidents linked to political unrest, according to new data from a non-profit monitoring political unrest in the United States.

Nine of the people killed during protests were demonstrators taking part in Black Lives Matter protests. Two were conservatives killed after pro-Trump “patriot rallies”. All but one were killed by fellow citizens."

 

I asked Grok for a breakdown:

"List deaths related to political unrest in the USA in 2020."

 

Summary attached.

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, TedG said:

Why not? 

Because the extreme right is much more violent than the extreme left. ALL numbers confirm it.

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Because the extreme right is much more violent than the extreme left. ALL numbers confirm it.

 Not really.  The left has a history of violence. 

8 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Liar.

 

From the article you linked:

"At least 11 Americans have been killed while participating in political demonstrations this year and another 14 have died in other incidents linked to political unrest, according to new data from a non-profit monitoring political unrest in the United States.

Nine of the people killed during protests were demonstrators taking part in Black Lives Matter protests. Two were conservatives killed after pro-Trump “patriot rallies”. All but one were killed by fellow citizens."

 

I asked Grok for a breakdown:

"List deaths related to political unrest in the USA in 2020."

 

Summary attached.

 

 

 

 

Your riots caused 25 deaths and 1 to 2 billion in property damage.  There is no getting around this fact.  Since you carry the BLM name, you own this. 

2 minutes ago, TedG said:

 Not really.  The left has a history of violence. 

You really are impervious to facts - impressive!👍

8 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

A total <deleted> wit. Thank goodness I'm not a christian or any other religion which professes to be all about peace and goodwill.

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

You really are impervious to facts - impressive!👍

Did the BLM riots cause $ 1 to $ 2 billion in damage?   YES or NO? 

20 minutes ago, Mason45 said:

A total <deleted> wit. Thank goodness I'm not a christian or any other religion which professes to be all about peace and goodwill.

Bless your heart. 

20 minutes ago, Mason45 said:

A total <deleted> wit. Thank goodness I'm not a christian or any other religion which professes to be all about peace and goodwill.

I believe he lived well by the Free speech, and might had regret some of it, if he was aware of his destiny. 

 

Because he was so radical and we'll spoken and managed to controll the "room" he made a good living. 

 

He paid the intimate price, not different from many others who either did what they did our of conviction, profession or just toying the limits because they could.

 

No risk, no consequences, no rewards

 

And also no consequences no guilt

20 minutes ago, Mason45 said:

A total <deleted> wit. Thank goodness I'm not a christian or any other religion which professes to be all about peace and goodwill.

 

First time I ever see the word "Empathy" being attacked.

Amusing ... or scary ... not sure how to react to that. 

 

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

Because he was so radical and we'll spoken and managed to controll the "room" he made a good living. 

 

"Control" is an interesting choice of words.

Did he even believe half the stuff he was saying?

Or was he just manipulating people who can't think for themselves and discern? 

The irony is that he was on college campuses, and yet many college students still can't discern when bs is thrown at them. 

Not familiar with his body of work, but he is coming across as a fake cult leader.