I'll take all the pleasure I can get, everyone else can take the pain, and that is Hedonism in a nut shell.

6 minutes ago, Fact said:

If these women had more options in life, they would likely choose a different path. It's pure exploitation.

Of course, but still there would be girls who out of numerous reasons cant hold a decent job, and would prefer the freedom of being a night queen chasing men and their wealth. 

 

Cant deny some girls is good at what they do, and also enjoyed what they do. 

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I'll take all the pleasure I can get, everyone else can take the pain, and that is Hedonism in a nut shell.

What if you turn on masochism?

 

pain and pleasure 

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

oh boy ... the anti bargirl brigade will be having fun in this one. 

 

 

I suppose mayhap, but only those that equate hedonism with paid sex.

And I reckon many of the "anti-bargirl brigade" have zero issues with bargirls beyond a disdain for how their customers present themselves, especially on forums like this.  

Let us not forget that Marriage is legalised prostitution and I've known some women who have taken Hedonism to another level, some like a bit/lot of pain while others don't, same goes for the male of the species.

Personally I'm all pleasure and no pain.

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Let us not forget that Marriage is legalised prostitution

Oh no, let's not forget that.

12 hours ago, Hummin said:

Ethical hedonism involves helping others if doing so brings about the greatest amount of pleasure, either for oneself (egoistic hedonism) or for others (altruistic hedonism)

 

Fair enough.

Maybe you and Mother Theresa are the only ones who have ever engaged in "ethical hedonism" then.

No one else on AN for sure. 

 

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Fair enough.

Maybe you and Mother Theresa are the only ones who have ever engaged in "ethical hedonism" then.

No one else on AN for sure. 

 

Mother Theresa was alot, but she was not all good. 

 

Well I do not know about myself, I seek pure pleasure as most, but I'm selective and critical to what kind of good I do for people, and also like mutual treatment for what I do. 

 

Egoisme is a great part of most of us no matter what we do in life, I is the biggest me in everything I do.

 

If you want pleasure and less pain, you have to put yourself first before you can do something for others. And it's never a one way path, you also need stimulus for what you do, and with that comes mutually response.

2 hours ago, Fact said:

If these women had more options in life, they would likely choose a different path. It's pure exploitation.

Only a misogynist would downvote this post. 

3 minutes ago, Fact said:

Only a misogynist would downvote this post. 

The spineless feeds on topics like this when someone makes a valid point 👉 

11 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

How much have you engaged in Hedonism ❓

 

Past tense?

 

Still engaging (at a rate commensurate with my dotage)

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

I practice hedonism within controlled limitations, so yes, pleasure is very much part of my life as much I can, but the older I become, the more I limit myself because I think to much about consequences and also being more empathetic with a lot of emphasis for people around me who deserves empathy.

 

Yeah, the wife still doesn't like it either.

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

Of course, but still there would be girls who out of numerous reasons cant hold a decent job, and would prefer the freedom of being a night queen chasing men and their wealth. 

 

Cant deny some girls is good at what they do, and also enjoyed what they do. 

 

Ah yes, Oy from Thumbs Up was a classic example. Not a stunner, apart from her smile, but she consistently mixed the perfect porn star and RGFE cocktail.

4 hours ago, w00n s3n said:

4 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Let us not forget that Marriage is legalised prostitution

Oh no, let's not forget that

 

Oh no, let's not forget that it's not.

2 hours ago, Fact said:

Only a misogynist would downvote this post. 

 

Only the completely, utterly and terminally socially inadequate would worry about emojis.

Once a day. Every day. All day long.

Several flaming & unacceptable comments removed.

 

@Celsius

 

@short-Timer

 

Healthy debate, even lighthearted banter is acceptable on the forum.

 

The comments from both of you: Are not.

 

These are 2 of the forum rules breached by both of you.

 

 

8. You will not post vulgarities, obscenities or profanities.

 

 

9. You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages. You will respect other members and post in a civil manner. Personal attacks, insults or hate speech posted on the forum or sent by private message are not allowed.

 

 

@save the frogs It's not just "Mother Teresa" and @Hummin Perhaps those that live that way don't feel the need to proclaim it.

Watch out for the ones who do 😊

 

@Fact Whilst I don't ever downvote anything nor anyone, You are wrong about that. Some women choose that path, for one reason or another. A Russian woman I know told me that even her mother predicted that she would become a sex worker. Said woman also admitted that she gets her 'love' from her customers.

Just like we have a fair amount of weirdos on this forum, there are going to be variations when it comes to women. There are all sorts out there. I actually lived with a 'Madam' as a teenager, so know about what I am writing. So no, you are wrong. Some choose that path for themselves, for varied reasons.

 

@Hummin You need to wind your neck in with your 'spineless' comments. Attacking people out of ignorance.

17 hours ago, Fact said:

If these women had more options in life, they would likely choose a different path. It's pure exploitation.

Thumbs down from me!

My first year in Thailand I lived with a sex worker that insisted on doing it 5x a day.

She chose to work as a freelancer because it was the only way she could get enough sex.

I remember her saying, "I want sex 5x a day, and if guys want to give me money after, that's perfect"

 

She had a degree in marketing from CMU.

Lovely woman, but at 52 I just couldn't keep up, and had to run away and hide.

18 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@save the frogs It's not just "Mother Teresa" and @Hummin Perhaps those that live that way don't feel the need to proclaim it.

Watch out for the ones who do 😊

 

@Fact Whilst I don't ever downvote anything nor anyone, You are wrong about that. Some women choose that path, for one reason or another. A Russian woman I know told me that even her mother predicted that she would become a sex worker. Said woman also admitted that she gets her 'love' from her customers.

Just like we have a fair amount of weirdos on this forum, there are going to be variations when it comes to women. There are all sorts out there. I actually lived with a 'Madam' as a teenager, so know about what I am writing. So no, you are wrong. Some choose that path for themselves, for varied reasons.

 

@Hummin You need to wind your neck in with your 'spineless' comments. Attacking people out of ignorance.

I had to give you a thumbs down on this one, and I will explain for you why I did so. 

 

You can not dictate what I respond to, or what I write on behalf of my self, and try to form my opinions based on your reality. 

 

I am trying to take you seriously, but this vendetta against me and what I am concerned about or what I care for debating is a but out of control. It seems I manage to tick some boxes with some few in here and should I be concerned about that as long I try to genuine in my posts as much I can ? 

 

 

@BritManToo Is she Russian? 😊 This one gets mad if I don't want to have sex with her. Her opening line is "Do you want to F*** me?

No.

Grow up @Hummin I actually upvoted one of your posts a couple of days ago. Let go of your paranoia. Just like fred, if you come out with BS, i can challenge it and in the very next post back you up if you write something sensible. So get over it and your nonsense of 'ticking people's boxes''. Irritating and egotistical. We all 'tick people's boxes'. Do you think you are special?

Do you think we have to agree on everything? What is wrong with you?

I certainly don't accept your explanation for your childish 'thumbs down'. But neither do I care about it.

18 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Thumbs down from me!

My first year in Thailand I lived with a sex worker that insisted on doing it 5x a day.

She chose to work as a freelancer because it was the only way she could get enough sex.

I remember her saying, "I want sex 5x a day, and if guys want to give me money after, that's perfect"

 

She had a degree in marketing from CMU.

Lovely woman, but at 52 I just couldn't keep up, and had to run away and hide.

While some choose it out of convenience (many reasons for that, laziness, mental health, attitude problems, or just high sexual energy, there is others who never would think they would end up as an prostitute, but more or less forced in to it, or because it seemed like the only option for the time being. 

 

 

Just now, JakeC said:

Grow up @Hummin I actually upvoted one of your posts a couple of days ago. Let go of your paranoia. Just like fred, if you come out with BS, i can challenge it and in the very next post back you up if you write something sensible. So get over it. Now. 

Do you think we have to agree on everything? What is wrong with you?

I will upvote a post you make to, when I read something sensible even I disagree sometimes, no problem, and by disagreeing we both can grow up and also grow a pair. 

 

No need to be aggressive or start with name calling. 

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

While some choose it out of convenience (many reasons for that, laziness, mental health, attitude problems, or just high sexual energy, there is others who never would think they would end up as an prostitute, but more or less forced in to it, or because it seemed like the only option for the time being. 

 

 

 

You're just stating the obvious here. 

 

@Hummin Name calling like "spineless"? Clean up your own house firstly. Certainly no need for you to suggest that we both need to grow a pair. On what evidence do you make such a statement?

 

Anyway, there is no vendetta. We speak our minds, like men. Accepting the rough with the smooth. If you can do that, you gain respect amongst your peers.

4 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Hummin Name calling like "spineless"? Clean up your own house firstly.

 

Anyway, there is no vendetta. We speak our minds, like men. Accepting the rough with the smooth. If you can do that, you gain respect amongst your peers.

Did I name anyone specific as spineless ever at this forum? 

 

I wasted enough time with you trying to explain simple things. Have a nice day 😄 

@Hummin You accused the person who downvoted @Fact's post of being 'spineless' That was specific and in my opinion, wrong. Perhaps not owning up to that can be considered 'spineless'.

You have followed that up by suggesting that I might need to 'grow a pair' without any basis for doing so, other than your hurt ego. Following that up with the suggestion that I am too stupid to understand the 'simple' things that you write you are trying to explain. Along with the implication that your time in discussions is more 'precious' than mine.

I'm having a nice day, thank you.

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Hummin You accused the person who downvoted @Fact's post of being 'spineless' That was specific and in my opinion, wrong. Perhaps not owning up to that can be considered 'spineless'.

You have followed that up by suggesting that I might need to 'grow a pair' without any basis for doing so, other than your hurt ego. Following that up with the suggestion that I am too stupid to understand the 'simple' things that you write you are trying to explain. Along with the implication that your time in discussions is more 'precious' than mine.

I'm having a nice day, thank you.

 

 

 

 

Thank you for teaching  me to be a better man! I understand it is my fault it becomes a bull pie tread and all the name calling that comes out against me is my own fault! 

 

I will try to be a better man. Again thank you

@Hummin I hope so. if not... 😊

You are still having issues, now naming the thread a "bull pie tread". It seems that you cannot concede without throwing insults. It shows insincerity.

 

Actually agreed with your description of 'ethical hedonism', even though you just 'Googled' it. Rough with the smooth @Hummin There is no name calling coming out against you. That is occuring only in your imagination. Take it easy. This isn't a political thread. Just people discussing hedonism.