This doesn't come as much of a surprise.  Many who are supposedly "supporting Palestinians but not Hamas" are actually dupes.  They are providing support to Hamas, whether they know it or not.

 

Captured documents reveal Hamas organized, funded Gaza flotilla

Documents found in Gaza and released by Israel’s Foreign Ministry on Tuesday traced direct Hamas involvement in organizing and financing a “close-knit” flotilla seeking to break the Israeli blockade of the Strip.

“This confirms that key assets of the flotilla are effectively owned and controlled by Hamas,” the Foreign Ministry said. “They clarify the chain of command and financial support behind these operations, which have long been presented under civilian pretense.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/captured-documents-reveal-hamas-organized-funded-gaza-flotilla/ar-AA1NzoDp?ocid=msedgntp&pc=W230&cvid=65ebbac8c38d42cfac00c1c5f940a34f&ei=19

 

And  the direct link to the official Web site of Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

Official Hamas documents prove Hamas’s direct involvement in the Gaza flotilla

EXPOSED: Official Hamas documents found in the Gaza Strip - now revealed for the first time - prove Hamas’s direct involvement in the funding and execution of the “Sumud” flotilla to Gaza

The PCPA (Palestinian Conference for Palestinians Abroad) was established in 2018 and functions as Hamas’ representative body abroad, operating de facto as Hamas’ embassies. The organization operates under the pretense of civilian cover and is responsible, on behalf of Hamas, for mobilizing actions against Israel, including violent demonstrations, marches against Israel, and demonstration and provocation flotillas.    https://www.gov.il/en/pages/official-hamas-documents-prove-hamas-s-direct-involvement-in-the-gaza-flotilla-30-sep-2025

 

Greta doesn't keep very good company.  From the  Ministry's Web site:

Just let the symbolic humanitarian aid in

will the Spanish and Italian warships help this time ? 

How dare you. 

21 minutes ago, johng said:

Just let the symbolic humanitarian aid in

 

It's not really about delivering aid but keeping the spotlight on Israel's efforts to defend itself.  There are alternative channels for delivering aid if that were really the goal.

 

Italy urges flotilla to abandon Gaza voyage after organizers reject compromise plan

While “the issue of aid is very important,” a flotilla spokesperson said, abandoning the trip “means admitting that you let a government operate illegally without being able to do anything.”

(Sept. 28, 2025 / JNS)  Italy’s president on Friday urged citizens aboard the Global Sumud Flotilla to Gaza to abandon the trip after organizers rejected Rome’s proposal to allow the Catholic Church to distribute the aid instead.

https://www.jns.org/italy-urges-flotilla-to-abandon-gaza-voyage-after-organizers-reject-compromise/

 

21 minutes ago, johng said:

will the Spanish and Italian warships help this time

 

No, they won't, unless one of the flotilla's vessels runs into difficulties not related to IDF actions.  Like the delivery of aid itself, the dispatch of warships is a symbolic gesture.  The warships won't follow the flotilla into Israeli waters.

4 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

The warships won't follow the flotilla into Israeli waters.

Well they should.

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

This doesn't come as much of a surprise.  Many who are supposedly "supporting Palestinians but not Hamas" are actually dupes.  They are providing support to Hamas, whether they know it or not.

You are supporting Netanyahu, a war criminal and terrorist who funded Hamas.

How can you brazenly show the Star of David flag at this time in history?

 

1 minute ago, JimCM said:

You are supporting Netanyahu, a war criminal and terrorist who funded Hamas.

How can you brazenly show the Star of David flag at this time in history?

 

Yes, I get my news from a comedian. 

34 minutes ago, johng said:

Well they should.

 

   That would be an act of war and Israel could sink the ship 

37 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

It's not really about delivering aid but keeping the spotlight on Israel's efforts to defend itself.  There are alternative channels for delivering aid if that were really the goal.

I what did they expect, keeping millions of people in a concentration camp  blockade for decades. I can’t understand how you can support these animals. Remember the rescue workers the murdered, then hid the ambulances? The Israeli machine are pure Evil, you are on the wrong side of history.

Gazans tried peaceful protests and negotiations and were killed, one IDF sniper boasted about shooting 42 kneecaps in one day. https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-snipers-brag-about-deliberately-crippling-gaza-protesters

 

6 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Yes, I get my news from a comedian. 

Are you denying the fact?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

1 minute ago, JimCM said:

Are you denying the fact?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

 

   Give it a rest and try and stay on topic .

You are once again derailing a thread with off topic posts .

The link that you posted has been posted many times previously and discussed many times before .

    Try to stay on topic and stop going on mad rants in all threads about Israel 

5 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Are you denying the fact?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Yes

7 minutes ago, JimCM said:

I what did they expect, keeping millions of people in a concentration camp  blockade for decades. I can’t understand how you can support these animals. Remember the rescue workers the murdered, then hid the ambulances? The Israeli machine are pure Evil, you are on the wrong side of history.

Gazans tried peaceful protests and negotiations and were killed, one IDF sniper boasted about shooting 42 kneecaps in one day. https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-snipers-brag-about-deliberately-crippling-gaza-protesters

 

All this happened because the people of Gaza could not be good neighbors and live in peace. 

21 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

All this happened because the people of Gaza could not be good neighbors and live in peace. 

Omg, ive heard it all now 🤣 Are you trolling or do you actually support the <removed> Israeli government?

 

Just now, JimCM said:

Omg, ive heard it all now 🤣 Are you trolling or do you actually support these animals in the Israeli government?

 

 

 

The Palestinians caused the latest mess on 10/7/23.   They can't help themselves. 

5 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

 

The Palestinians caused the latest mess on 10/7/23.   They can't help themselves. 

No they didn’t and you never answered my question, do you support what the Israel govt are doing?

Keep track of the flotilla 

 

https://flotilla-orpin.vercel.app/

  

7 minutes ago, JimCM said:

No they didn’t and you never answered my question, do you support what the Israel govt are doing?

Yes, they did.   They killed 1200 people from Israel that day. 

Baiting post hidden.  Play nice folks. 

14 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Yes, they did.   They killed 1200 people from Israel that day. 

And Israel killed 65.000, including Western journalists 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That would be an act of war and Israel could sink the ship 

They would be too scared.

 

Bombing families in their houses from the sky against people with no air defense is about as courageous as they get.

 

We noticed they did very little fighting in WW2. They made the French look brave.

54 minutes ago, still kicking said:

And Trump licks Israel's backside

I find it confusing why.

Netanyahu was caught out admitting he plays the USA.

8 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

 

Bombing families in their houses from the sky against people with no air defense is about as courageous as they get.

 

    You don't think that the IDF would be brave enough to go into Gaza on land ?

9 hours ago, JimCM said:

You are supporting Netanyahu, a war criminal and terrorist who funded Hamas.

 

I am supporting Netanyahu, a head of government who is defending his country against a ruthless terrorist organization determined to destroy the homeland of the world's Jews.  

 

9 hours ago, JimCM said:

How can you brazenly show the Star of David flag at this time in history?

 

Now more than ever, Israel needs the support of Jews and non-Jews alike.  I would use a much more brazen image than the flag of Israel  as my avatar to declare my support, but the board rules don't allow it.

 

 

My favorite T-shirts:

       

         

 

I wear them  brazenly and proudly.

 

8 hours ago, JimCM said:

The Israeli machine are pure Evil, you are on the wrong side of history.

 

I'm on the side of history that defends the right of Jews to have a homeland and to live free of antisemitic oppression.  If that is the wrong side of history for you, there's nothing I could write that would make a difference.

 

The government of Israel and the IDF are no more evil than there counterparts in the U.S. and U.K.  During WWII, the U.S. and U.K.  bombed Germany and Japan intensely, causing hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths,  Churchill and FDR weren't evil, nor were the officers and enlisted men of the British and U.S. armed forces.  They did what they had to to win the war.  It's the same with Netanyahu and the IDF; they do what they have to defeat Hamas and sometimes this causes non-combatant deaths.

 

9 hours ago, JimCM said:

No they didn’t and you never answered my question, do you support what the Israel govt are doing?

Yes I do.   I'd bulldoze from Gaza to the sea. 

Let's be real.

 

Israeli intelligence?

 

Probably manufactured, and in any event, what matters is that there is a flotilla, not who was involved funding it.

12 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Documents found in Gaza and released by Israel’s Foreign Ministry on Tuesday traced direct Hamas involvement in organizing and financing a “close-knit” flotilla seeking to break the Israeli blockade of the Strip.

 

How tough do you think it would be for Mossad to "capture" documents that they manufactured and put somewhere?

 

I'm not saying that's what happened.  I don't claim to know.  I just don't believe a thing that either side claims in that debacle.

 

Not since June 8, 1967.

 

10 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I find it confusing why.

Netanyahu was caught out admitting he plays the USA.

 

MOSSAD,   Epstein files ?

4 hours ago, impulse said:

 

How tough do you think it would be for Mossad to "capture" documents that they manufactured and put somewhere?

 

I'm not saying that's what happened.  I don't claim to know.  I just don't believe a thing that either side claims in that debacle.

 

Not since June 8, 1967.

 

 

How tough do you think it would be for Mossad to discover authentic documents that Hamas had written?

 

I'm saying that's what happened.  I believe almost everything the Israeli government claims and virtually nothing Hamas says.  I will acknowledge that for operational reasons in time of war, the Israeli government will have on occasion reason to hide the truth to protect the lives of its citizens, civilian and military.

17 hours ago, johng said:

Well they should.

The Israeli Air force bombed and strafed a Spy ship that would not leave the area. 

Ship were the USN Liberty belonging to their friend and benefactor.

 

Israel will have already made known.

"We cannot guarantee the safety of any armed vessel deemed a threat".

Israel has a track record of bombing foreign countries & capitals without warning, where no "State of War" exists.

 

The speed the convoy is proceeding at shows they do not want arrive anytime soon.