Source: https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/majority-of-americans-now-suspect

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The takeaway: A credible, nationally representative poll now confirms most Americans believe COVID-19 shots have killed many people, and they want accountability from the CDC and government health leaders.

 

Public opinion is shifting—and they want action.

A new Rasmussen survey of 1,158 likely U.S. voters—conducted September 7–9, 2025, with a ±3% margin of error—reveals that 56% believe side effects from the COVID-19 shots have likely caused a significant number of unexplained deaths. Nearly one-third (32%) say it’s very likely. Only 35% still dismiss the idea.

This shows that what was once called a “conspiracy theory” has become the mainstream view. The majority of Americans now believe vaccine harms are real and widespread.

Support for HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. reflects this shift. Half of voters (50%) say government health officials deserve criticism for their handling of the pandemic, while 42% even think CDC employees should be fired for their role in misleading the public. Among those who strongly believe the shots caused deaths, over 70% want CDC firings.

Partisan divides remain—70% of Republicans, 46% of Democrats, and 54% of independents think the vaccines likely caused deaths—but the skepticism crosses party lines and racial groups. In fact, black (64%) and Hispanic (57%) voters are even more likely than white voters (54%) to suspect deadly vaccine effects.

According to the survey, RFK Jr. is viewed favorably by 45% of voters, with strong support among Republicans and independents, even as Democrats turn sharply against him.

 

 

You can access the article here > https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/majority-of-americans-now-suspect

and here the link to the Rasmussen report > https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration_second_term/56_suspect_covid_19_vaccines_caused_deaths

I don't suspect, as I know of 2.  That's was one horrible social experiment IMHO

 

'How to Live Longer 101' ... trust no one, especially those that will benefit financially.   And never, never trust your govt.

Hold on the 'fact checkers'

will be along shortly to clear up this

'misunderstanding'

15 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I don't suspect, as I know of 2.  That's was one horrible social experiment IMHO

'How to Live Longer 101' ... trust no one, especially those that will benefit financially.   And never, never trust your govt.

 

Yes, 'suspect' is the wrong word.  I know - far beyond a reasonable doubt - of some acquaintances that died after being coerced or gaslighted into taking these '100% safe and effective' poison-shots. 

The point of me opening this thread with that self-evident reality, is that mainstream-media, 'fact-checkers' and some vax-enthusiasts on AN are STILL referring to those whose eyes are opened as 'a fringe minority', 'dangerous misinformation spreaders'  and 'loony conspiracy theorists'.  

 

Admittedly, the anti-vax movement has succeeded during COVID in persuading some portion of the American public -- falsely -- that COVID vaccines have substantive health risks risks.  They don't, as study after study has repeatedly confirmed.

 

But, then we have Rasmussen, a right-wing polling outfiit with a dubious history and a long record of trafficking, and spreading, anti-COVID vaccine rhetoric.... because, that's where the right-wing and the Republican party have gone under Trump and RFK Jr.

 

However, just because Rasmussen comes up with a poll result claiming something, don't mean it's true that even that reported share of people really believe what they claim. Because, their history of polling on COVID vaccines has asked their questions in  a way that's designed to drive a misleading result.  And it does, time after time.

 

Rasmussen Reports is, ostensibly, a polling organization. Why does its most recent poll look like something an antivaxxer like Steve Kirsch dreamed up? Because it’s not legit. It’s propaganda.

 

"In the political world, Rasmussen polls are known for tending to have a bias towards the right in general and Republicans in particular. Seriously, even Nate Silver said over a decade ago, “My advice would be simply to disregard the Rasmussen Reports poll, and to view their work with extreme skepticism going forward.” 

...

Rasmussen reminds me of MSU Economics Professor Mark Skidmore and his execrably bad poll that claimed to have found that vaccines killed a lot of people. It was so bad that, after its retraction, the only “journal” that would touch it was antivaxxer James Lyons-Weiler‘s fake journal.

...

No, Rasmussen is a disinformation operation and is basically trolling on its social media now.... I realize that, among pollsters, Rasmussen never had a particularly good reputation. It’s long been obvious that its polls tended to show significant right wing bias. However, even I hadn’t realized that Rasmussen had gone all in promoting COVID-19 and antivax disinformation."

 

https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2024/06/14/rasmussen-reports-goes-steve-kirsch-level-stupid-antivax/

 

 

 

 

Don't 25% of Yanks also claim to have been abducted and 'probed' by aliens?

Yep, stuff like that... Here are some of the other things that polls will tell you Americans believe:

Which conspiracy theories do Americans believe?

December 09, 2023

 

--Barack Obama was not born in the United States (31%)

 

--voting machines were programmed to change votes in the 2020 election (29%).

 

--the government is using COVID-19 vaccines to microchip Americans (20%)

 

--the government was behind the 9/11 attacks (20%)

 

--the 1969 moon landing was staged (18%).

 

Go figure. The crazy things that some portion of the population believe.

 

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/48113-which-conspiracy-theories-do-americans-believe

 

This GOP-leaning political polling firm has turned into a purveyor of anti-vaccine propaganda

Wed, June 19, 2024

 

"...something has happened to Rasmussen in recent years. Not only have its results become more sharply partisan, favoring Republican and conservative politicians, but it also has increasingly promoted right-wing conspiracy theories on topics such as race relations, election results and — perhaps most troubling — COVID vaccines and COVID origins.

...

There are many reasons to disregard any such poll asking people what they think about a scientifically validated fact — in this case, that the record shows overwhelmingly that the COVID vaccines widely used in the U.S. are safe and effective.

...

Rasmussen polls on COVID vaccines and other such topics aren't entirely worthless. They may not tell us anything useful about scientific research or electoral results, but they do offer a window into how propaganda and claptrap have penetrated deeply into our political discourse, at least within the right-wing fever swamp. [emphasis added]

,,,

Such questions [as deployed in their polls] have obvious flaws. The most important is that most respondents have no way of knowing whether an acquaintance's death was related to the vaccine; nor does Rasmussen, which conducts its polls with robot calls, have any way of authenticating the respondent's answer."

 

Los Angeles Times

https://www.yahoo.com/news/column-gop-leaning-political-polling-100014929.html

 

--AI assisted

 

--"The Associated Press has also addressed Rasmussen's methodology. In 2018, AP journalists noted that Rasmussen's telephone methodology systematically omits adults, many of them young people, without landlines. The AP also noted that Rasmussen does not provide details regarding its online-panel methodology.

 

--A 2017 article by Chris Cillizza for CNN raised doubts about Rasmussen's accuracy, drawing attention specifically to potential sampling biases such as the exclusion of calls to cell phones (which, Cillizza argued, tended to exclude younger voters), and also more generally to a lack of methodological disclosure. [emphasis added]

 

--Rasmussen has received criticism over the wording in its polls.[113][114] Asking a polling question with different wording can affect the results of the poll;[115] the commentators in question allege that the questions Rasmussen ask in polls are skewed in order to favor a specific response. For instance, when Rasmussen polled whether Republican voters thought Rush Limbaugh was the leader of their party, the specific question they asked was: "Agree or Disagree: 'Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party—he says jump and they say how high.'" [emphasis added]

 

--Rasmussen Reports has frequently claimed that COVID-19 vaccines are lethal,[102] promoted election denialism,[102][103][104][105] stated that a poll held 4 months after the 2020 United States Senate elections was representative of the results on the election day,[103] merged 3 topics into the same question, released the results 11 months later and claimed that the outcome of the poll was representative of COVID-19 vaccines' supposed mortality rate.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmussen_Reports

 

 

Meanwhile, for a brief diversion into facts instead of anti-vax nonsense:

 

Per the Associated Press in 2023:

 

"The CDC has confirmed just nine deaths caused by COVID-19 vaccines. Those cases were causally associated with rare blood clots caused by the Johnson & Johnson shot. As a result, that vaccine [J&J] has been largely sidelined by officials. Severe reactions are rare. More than 674 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines had been administered in the U.S. as of Friday."

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccine-600000-americans-978248674052

 

 

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Meanwhile, for a brief diversion into facts instead of anti-vax nonsense:

 

Per the Associated Press in 2023:

 

"The CDC has confirmed just nine deaths caused by COVID-19 vaccines. Those cases were causally associated with rare blood clots caused by the Johnson & Johnson shot. As a result, that vaccine [J&J] has been largely sidelined by officials. Severe reactions are rare. More than 674 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines had been administered in the U.S. as of Friday."

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccine-600000-americans-978248674052

 

 

 

 

....and 13.6 BILLION worldwide ........where are all the bodies??????

Here's Rasmussen's actual question... only one on the posted topic...   Leading more than a  bit?

 

How likely is it that people beat their wives...... Rasmussen really wants to know!

 

 

And, the "mass deaths" nonsense in the headline isn't reflected in the Rasmussen poll or question at all, but instead, is the anti-vaxer fever dream of the OP's quoted anti-vaxer blogger and COVID misinformer Nicolas Hulscher. 

 

Hulscher is a cohort of disgraced COVID misinformer Dr. Peter McCullough, who was stripped of his medical board certifications for spreading COVID misinformation, and the two collaborated on a bogus journal article claiming COVID vaccine deaths that was later retracted by the journal that initially published it.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/flawed-autopsy-review-revives-unsupported-claims-of-covid-19-vaccine-harm-censorship/

 

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Meanwhile, for a brief diversion into facts instead of anti-vax nonsense:

Per the Associated Press in 2023:

"The CDC has confirmed just nine deaths caused by COVID-19 vaccines. Those cases were causally associated with rare blood clots caused by the Johnson & Johnson shot. As a result, that vaccine [J&J] has been largely sidelined by officials. Severe reactions are rare. More than 674 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines had been administered in the U.S. as of Friday."

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccine-600000-americans-978248674052

 

Do you realize how utterly ridiculous your post is:

Only nine deaths caused by Covid-19 vaccines ????????? 

And you claim this drivel is "facts instead of anti-vax nonsense"  

 

Note that some 3 weeks ago I mocked that same nonsense-claim you posted, but seems you  and some of your brain-dead supporters still believe it.  

> https://aseannow.com/topic/1373008-my-apologies-for-all-the-mis-information-that-i-posted-here/

 

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I don't suspect, as I know of 2.  That's was one horrible social experiment IMHO

 

'How to Live Longer 101' ... trust no one, especially those that will benefit financially.   And never, never trust your govt.

Carefully, and meticulously, planned in my humble opinion.

 

Going by the poll, millions will not be letting the white-coats pumpany toxic filth into their babes, toddlers and older kids.

 

Maybe America is starting to come home after all this time. If the penny drops right down, other US government poodles will soon follow. And maybe, just maybe, truth will prevail, and this vaccine abomination will come to an end.

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Yep, stuff like that... Here are some of the other things that polls will tell you Americans believe:

Which conspiracy theories do Americans believe?

December 09, 2023

 

--Barack Obama was not born in the United States (31%)

 

--voting machines were programmed to change votes in the 2020 election (29%).

 

--the government is using COVID-19 vaccines to microchip Americans (20%)

 

--the government was behind the 9/11 attacks (20%)

 

--the 1969 moon landing was staged (18%).

 

Go figure. The crazy things that some portion of the population believe.

 

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/48113-which-conspiracy-theories-do-americans-believe

 

lol here he is. Yada yada yada. Any med comes with risks, esp one that messes with the immune system, and those vaccines will have killed many. Why does it have to be right wing or left wing? It just is what it is. No conspiracy there. But really telling that some people feel the need to fight tooth and nail to tell you otherwise, sort of akin to climate change denial. The earth warms up, what’s gonna happen? Bizarre behaviour. 

The other questions in the Rasmussen poll make it sound like it might have been financially sponsored (paid for) by RFK Jr. and/or his anti-vaxer allies.

 

Does Rasmussen do that... Yes, they most certainly do:

 

--AI assisted

 

Curiously, some of the other polled questions (which didn't follow thru on the vaccine issue in any way, conspicuously):

 

2* Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, or very unfavorable impression of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? [emphasis added]

 

4* The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, known as the CDC, was the lead agency advising the government's response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Do some CDC employees involved in the government's COVID-19 response deserve to be fired? [emphasis added]

 

No doubt we'll be seeing this claptrap show up in Kennedy's anti-vaxer talking points very soon.

 

 

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

A credible, nationally representative poll now confirms most Americans believe COVID-19 shots have killed many people

 

2008  Most Americans voted for Barack Obama.

2012  Most Americans voted for Barack Obama.

2016 Most Americans voted for Hillary Clinton.

2020  Most Americans voted for Joe Biden.

2024  Most Americans voted for "not Trump."

 

Ad populum, or argumentum ad populum, is a logical fallacy that claims something is true or good simply because many people believe it. This type of reasoning is often seen in advertising and can distract from the actual evidence supporting a claim.

 

Approximately 37% of Americans believe that God created human beings in their present form within the last 10,000 years, while around 34% believe that humans developed over millions of years.

 

"We're gonna need a bigger forum crackpot section."

 

 

 

Deluded, ill informed, low IQ, 

33 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Carefully, and meticulously, planned in my humble opinion.

 

Going by the poll, millions will not be letting the white-coats pumpany toxic filth into their babes, toddlers and older kids.

 

Maybe America is starting to come home after all this time. If the penny drops right down, other US government poodles will soon follow. And maybe, just maybe, truth will prevail, and this vaccine abomination will come to an end.

You got more faith in people than I do.   Remember,  both Bush2 & Obama got reelected.   Best commercial wins.  Look at mr masked pug, he still trumpets on and sure his booster card still isn't full up ...

 

2 hours ago, johng said:

Hold on the 'fact checkers'

will be along shortly to clear up this

'misunderstanding'

 

Yessir !   I also knew immediately upon reading that the response would be to attack the source .   The only tactic the truth deniers can turn to now .  

Rasmussen is a very credible source (as are many that the deniers use paid for fact checkers to deny )  One often used bias checker is AI . Owned and programmed by Google. Another favorite of the left is wikipedia .  When giving "info"  about Rasmussin Surveys wikipedia's bias has to insert the "opinion"  of one Nate Silver to diss on Rasmussin .   "According to Nate Silver in 2010, automated polling methods like Rasmussen's have been found to be more favorable towards Republicans ......"

 

uhhhh, WHO ?   Nate Silver ?   oh, this Nate Silver :"Nathaniel Read Silver is an American statistician, political analyst, author, sports gambler, and poker player who analyzes baseball, basketball and elections."

 

And so .... this is how wikipedia demeans anything not " left leaning" .

The same as all the other mainstreet sources presented ad nauseum by the pro covid vax contingent .    They just hate to be wrong...

Isn't this thread pointless as over 50% of US elected a convicted felon as president who picked a health secretary with no formal medical background?

1 minute ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Isn't this thread pointless as over 50% of US elected a convicted felon as president who picked a health secretary with no formal medical background?

 

Incorrect.

 

Trump received a mere 49.8% of the popular vote.

50.2% voted against Trump.

35 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Yessir !   I also knew immediately upon reading that the response would be to attack the source .   The only tactic the truth deniers can turn to now .  

Rasmussen is a very credible source (as are many that the deniers use paid for fact checkers to deny )  One often used bias checker is AI . Owned and programmed by Google. Another favorite of the left is wikipedia .  When giving "info"  about Rasmussin Surveys wikipedia's bias has to insert the "opinion"  of one Nate Silver to diss on Rasmussin .   "According to Nate Silver in 2010, automated polling methods like Rasmussen's have been found to be more favorable towards Republicans ......"

 

uhhhh, WHO ?   Nate Silver ?   oh, this Nate Silver :"Nathaniel Read Silver is an American statistician, political analyst, author, sports gambler, and poker player who analyzes baseball, basketball and elections."

 

And so .... this is how wikipedia demeans anything not " left leaning" .

The same as all the other mainstreet sources presented ad nauseum by the pro covid vax contingent .    They just hate to be wrong...

Think it is worth considering that the Wiki pages are written by individuals; some with an agenda. Some sensitive topics, or people, also get locked, and even the person who is being written about can't amend the words.

 

I've amended quite a few pages. Mostly about football and other sports. But also a couple of personalities who were being dissed unfairly IMO. One such amendment was changed back in just 15 minutes. There is money out there for posting the 'right' stuff. From World Politics to items on mRNA jabs. 

 

As the 1955 CIA Director said; ''When people can't tell the difference between truth and lies; we have won.''

10 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Incorrect.

 

Trump received a mere 49.8% of the popular vote.

50.2% voted against Trump.

IF details matter ...

 

That depends on one's level of ignorance, and think the USA is a democracy, instead of what it really is, a Constitutional Republic.  In which case he received 57.9925651% of the vote that matters.

 

Along with winning the majority of the counties, countrywide ...

 

9 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Incorrect.

 

Trump received a mere 49.8% of the popular vote.

50.2% voted against Trump.

What % of the total eligible electorate voted for The Don? Not more than 30% I reckon.

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

--the 1969 moon landing was staged (18%).

 

Well, actually the moon landing was staged - on a Hollywood (or other) sound stage.

 

Only need to see 1 fake NASA CGI video (there are hundreds) before it all clicks.

17 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

IF details matter ...

 

That depends on one's level of ignorance, and think the USA is a democracy, instead of what it really is, a Constitutional Republic.  In which case he received 57.9925651% of the vote that matters.

 

Along with winning the majority of the counties, countrywide ...

 

 

Since when do counties vote?

18 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

IF details matter ...

 

That depends on one's level of ignorance, and think the USA is a democracy, instead of what it really is, a Constitutional Republic.  In which case he received 57.9925651% of the vote that matters.

 

Along with winning the majority of the counties, countrywide ...

 

Good point, its about distribution, not about intercity ghetto voting. 

9 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Good point, its about distribution, not about intercity ghetto voting. 

Go POTUS go! Smash the deep and dark state.

 

Let's see the files on JFK's murder. Brother Robert's killing. USS Liberty. Moon landings.  9/11.  John Lennon. Brandy Vaughan. Isaac Kappy. Tiffany Dover. Epstein. Nord-stream pipeline.

 

Get the files out Don, and do right by the American people.

12 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Since when do counties vote?

Since when did the popular vote matter ?

 

Simply used as reference, as your use of the popular vote.   Both meaningless, but mine a bit more telling, IMHO of course.

 

Read into what you like ... but it's still President Trump.