8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Nobody pumped out more Covid disinformation and fear mongering than the OP. Stunned to see such a lack of self awareness.

Have you noticed that pretty much all the anti-covid-vaccine posters here are still posting?

 

I have screenshots of the profiles of dozens of prolific (10k+ posts) long time pro-vax posters who would say some of the nastiest things….and they just stopped posting for some reason.

 

Let us bow our heads in prayer and remembrance 🤭

On 10/5/2025 at 3:28 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

And as explained above, the authorities speeded up the normal vaccine approval process by overlapping some of the same regulatory and clinical trial processes that needed to be and were followed, in order to get the vaccine out to prevent people from dying... They also got the manufacturers to begin producing the vaccines before they were approved, on the assumption/risk that they would be approved, which they were.

 

But NONE of that involved skipping or bypassing any of the normal regulatory or clinical trial steps in getting ultimate approval.

 

 

Considering it was a military operation eh.

 

Planned from 2017. Kary died in August 2019. Big Pharma companies told to get prepared. Event 201. Secret Services given the SP in November. News of the pandemic slowly trickled out until mid March 2020. The US military sent out the message to 'lock down'. Between Mach 20th & 31st. Lockstep lockdowns begin.

 

 

note - no AI or cats were consulted in this post.

19 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The voice thereof....

 

 

--AI assisted.

Don't forget that during Covid , a lot of people lost their jobs and therefore had no income. Covid hospitals were free accommodation with free food. 

16 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

By "the authorities" you mean Trump and "Warp Speed" yes? 

 

Yep, they were part of it... along with a lot of other parties involved.

 

Trump has done a lot of horrible, illegal, reprehensible things... But every now and again, perhaps by mistake or self-glorification, he does something right.

 

 

Trump renews praise for Covid vaccines, 'one of the greatest achievements of mankind'

 

Dec. 23, 2021

 

"WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump praised the efficacy of the coronavirus vaccines in a new interview just days after being booed by an audience for revealing he received a Covid booster shot.

 

"The vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind," Trump told conservative commentator Candace Owens in an interview on Wednesday. While Trump has expressed opposition to vaccine mandates, he has long taken credit for the vaccines developed on his watch." [emphasis added]

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-renews-praise-covid-vaccines-one-greatest-achievements-mankind-n1286551

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Don't forget that during Covid , a lot of people lost their jobs and therefore had no income. Covid hospitals were free accommodation with free food. 

 

You didn't get into a Thai government hospital or COVID shelter back in the day unless you tested positive for COVID at a government facility or private hospital.

 

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Yep, they were part of it... along with a lot of other parties involved.

 

Trump has done a lot of horrible, illegal, reprehensible things... But every now and again, perhaps by mistake or self-glorification, he does something right.

 

 

Trump renews praise for Covid vaccines, 'one of the greatest achievements of mankind'

 

Dec. 23, 2021

 

"WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump praised the efficacy of the coronavirus vaccines in a new interview just days after being booed by an audience for revealing he received a Covid booster shot.

 

"The vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind," Trump told conservative commentator Candace Owens in an interview on Wednesday. While Trump has expressed opposition to vaccine mandates, he has long taken credit for the vaccines developed on his watch."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-renews-praise-covid-vaccines-one-greatest-achievements-mankind-n1286551

 

 

 

Like many others, he cares more about his bank balance.

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

You didn't get into a Thai government hospital or COVID shelter back in the day unless you tested positive for COVID at a government facility or private hospital.

 

Absolutely, and for some , coming up positive was a blessing. Just tell them nowhere to isolate at home or have shared living arrangements.

@TallGuyJohninBKK Question. Does the vaccine stay in the deltoid muscle or is it systemic and found throughout the body? Remember it was said it stayed in the deltoid muscle. Was the vaccine tested for adverse effects for pregnant women? Did Pfizer know about the inflamatory effects of the vaccine? Did Pfiszr know there were significant side effects? Remember the Pfizer papers have been released. So the answers are they knew if it hit the blood stream it would travel throughout the body, they didn't test for adverse effects for preagnant women and they knew about the inflamatory nature of the mRNA jabs which is what causes myocarditis and pericarditis escpecially in the young.

8 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Like many others, he cares more about his bank balance.

Do you not care about your bang balance?

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Remember the many Nurse Choreography dancing-clips in those 'hospitals filled with bodies' ?  

Check this out…..

 

 

 

16 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

A prior report from 2022 by Stanford University, but nonetheless one that is still relevant today for the unmoderated nonsense that is often posted online:

 

No, I don't think Covid "disinformation" is a major problem.

 

The powers that be understand the population demographics.

 

The powers that be understand that X% of the population are conspiracy theorists and/or don't trust vaccines.

 

So they went ahead with the rollout and they probably had statisticians predict how many people would not take the vaccine before it happened. 

 

What's the point of arguing 5 years after the fact? It's over and done with. And we will not likely have another scenario like this in our lifetimes. 

 

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

The powers that be understand that X% of the population are conspiracy theorists and/or don't trust vaccines.

X% might be anti-vaxxers (of course anti-mRNA jabs and anti-vaxxers aren't mutually inclusive) but Y% are 100% gullible and would believe whatever the FDA, CDC, WHO, Governments, big pharma and MSM told them. "Get jabbed and you won't get Covid-19". Did YOU believe this?

9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

What's the point of arguing 5 years after the fact? It's over and done with. And we will not likely have another scenario like this in our lifetimes. 

 

 

Because the policies we pursue (or don't pursue) now will likely determine how bad things will get the NEXT time something like COVID comes along, whether in our lifetime or during those of our children.

 

RFK Jr cancels $500m in funding for mRNA vaccines for diseases like Covid

6 August 2025

 

"The US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) plans to cancel $500m (£376m) in funding for mRNA vaccines being developed to counter viruses that cause diseases such as the flu and Covid-19.

 

That will impact 22 projects being led by major pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer and Moderna, for vaccines against bird flu and other viruses, HHS said.

 

Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr, a vaccine sceptic, announced he was pulling the funding over claims that "mRNA technology poses more risks than benefits for these respiratory viruses".

 

Doctors and health experts have criticised Kennedy's longstanding questioning of the safety and efficacy of vaccines and his views on health policies.

 

(more)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74dzdddvmjo

 

 

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

X% might be anti-vaxxers (of course anti-mRNA jabs and anti-vaxxers aren't mutually inclusive) but Y% are 100% gullible and would believe whatever the FDA, CDC, WHO, Governments, big pharma and MSM told them. "Get jabbed and you won't get Covid-19". Did YOU believe this?

No, they believed 100% when Biden controlled it, but they believe 0% now that Trump controls it. 

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

What's the point of arguing 5 years after the fact? It's over and done with. And we will not likely have another scenario like this in our lifetimes. 

 

The classic ' Forgive and Forget' plea, without even the 'Forgive' part, just Forget what happened.  A recipe for a repeat, which is already in the making as the forces behind this Largest Crime of the Century are counting on guys like you to get away with it.  

 

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, they believed 100% when Biden controlled it,

Yep Biden controlled it all right. Only the narrative was allowed. People deplatformed and massive censorship all in the name of the narrative. I remember you couldn't say it came from the Wuhan Lab on here. Any mention of Ivermectin would incur a warning.

31 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

What's the point of arguing 5 years after the fact? It's over and done with.

I would love to see you have a chat with people suffering from vaccine injuries or those who had loved ones die from the jab.

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I would love to see you have a chat with people suffering from vaccine injuries or those who had loved ones die from the jab.

 

Don't know anyone, and have never met anyone, who fits into either of those categories, as posters on this forum often say.

 

ICMRA statement on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines

This International Coalition of Medicines Regulatory Authorities (ICMRA)* statement provides the general public with important information regarding the safety of COVID-19 vaccines...

 

"

• False and misleading information about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines on social media often exaggerates the frequency and severity of side effects. Misinformation also wrongly attributes unrelated medical events to the vaccines. Vaccine misinformation leading individuals to decline vaccination has very likely led to many more deaths than adverse effects of the vaccines.
   
• There is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines have contributed to excess mortality during the pandemic. Excess mortality largely coincides with peaks of SARS-CoV-2 infections, particularly during the first waves when vaccines were not available. In fact, there is strong evidence that COVID-19 vaccines save lives and prevent the serious harm associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection. [emphasis added]

 

https://icmra.info/drupal/strategicinitiatives/vaccines/safety_statement

 

14 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Don't know anyone, and have never met anyone, who fits into either of those categories, as posters on this forum often say.

 

ICMRA statement on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines

This International Coalition of Medicines Regulatory Authorities (ICMRA)* statement provides the general public with important information regarding the safety of COVID-19 vaccines...

 

"

• False and misleading information about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines on social media often exaggerates the frequency and severity of side effects. Misinformation also wrongly attributes unrelated medical events to the vaccines. Vaccine misinformation leading individuals to decline vaccination has very likely led to many more deaths than adverse effects of the vaccines.
   
• There is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines have contributed to excess mortality during the pandemic. Excess mortality largely coincides with peaks of SARS-CoV-2 infections, particularly during the first waves when vaccines were not available. In fact, there is strong evidence that COVID-19 vaccines save lives and prevent the serious harm associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection. [emphasis added]

 

https://icmra.info/drupal/strategicinitiatives/vaccines/safety_statement

 

Still with the narrative sources. You've probably got gigabytes of them on your computer. Of course if I was to post anything countering your views I'd be called an anti-vaxxer and anyone or anything I sourced would be conspiracy threory. Of course not that long ago certain sources were not allowed on here as freedom of speech was non-existant and censorship was total. One was in no way allowed to challenge "The Narrative".

11 hours ago, dinsdale said:

I would love to see you have a chat with people suffering from vaccine injuries or those who had loved ones die from the jab.

 

I'm not convinced such people exist.

 

They only exist on AN, apparently.

 

Do you understand that most people are "connected" somehow?

I have a massive family back home. That means dozens and dozens of people who know dozens and dozens of other people. I never heard one person mention anything.

 

I worked in an office with hundreds of people. I never heard one story about someone who knew someone who died from the jab or had "vaccine injuries". 

 

If it was common, there would be mass hysteria because people all talk to each other. 

 

 

34 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Don't know anyone, and have never met anyone, who fits into either of those categories, as posters on this forum often say.

 

ICMRA statement on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines

This International Coalition of Medicines Regulatory Authorities (ICMRA)* statement provides the general public with important information regarding the safety of COVID-19 vaccines...

 

"

• False and misleading information about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines on social media often exaggerates the frequency and severity of side effects. Misinformation also wrongly attributes unrelated medical events to the vaccines. Vaccine misinformation leading individuals to decline vaccination has very likely led to many more deaths than adverse effects of the vaccines.
   
• There is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines have contributed to excess mortality during the pandemic. Excess mortality largely coincides with peaks of SARS-CoV-2 infections, particularly during the first waves when vaccines were not available. In fact, there is strong evidence that COVID-19 vaccines save lives and prevent the serious harm associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection. [emphasis added]

 

https://icmra.info/drupal/strategicinitiatives/vaccines/safety_statement

 

Do you know anyone who received Thai government compensation for death or injury due to Covid vaccine injury? I know of one family whose family member died, and many others who were injured and could not get compensation.

https://eng.nhso.go.th/view/1/DescriptionNews/One-billion-baht-paid-to-COVID-19-vaccine-recipients-experiencing-side-effects-/409/EN-US

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

If it was common, there would be mass hysteria because people all talk to each other. 

 

Hey, there's only been about 14 BILLION COVID vaccine doses given since the start of the pandemic...

 

That's a pretty small sample size... really can't tell much from that!   

3 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Do you know anyone who received Thai government compensation for death or injury due to Covid vaccine injury? I know of one family whose family member died, and many others who were injured and could not get compensation.

https://eng.nhso.go.th/view/1/DescriptionNews/One-billion-baht-paid-to-COVID-19-vaccine-recipients-experiencing-side-effects-/409/EN-US

 

The last time I checked, the Thai government had only found a handful of cases where it was confirmed that COVID vaccination was the cause of someone's death... And the vast majority of other cases were found to be from OTHER causes.

 

And, you have to remember, that Thailand did a lot of Astra-Zeneca vaccines in the early going, which were later pulled from the market, pretty early in the pandemic, because of a very rare problem with brain bleeding that hadn't surfaced in the clinical trials for AZ.  The mRNA vaccines did not have the same problem.

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

It is time to hold the people spreading the false information and their claims of conspiracy  accountable. Don't allow them to  remain anonymous and to hide behind a keyboard. Make them prove their claims, sue them and make them pay for the damages caused.

 

 

So what of those officials who told us that the vaccine prevented you from getting or spreading covid ?

50 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I would love to see you have a chat with people suffering from vaccine injuries or those who had loved ones die from the jab.

 

Yeah.  For me, my 2nd Pfizer is the gift that keeps on giving.  4-1/2 years later, my health is still in the crapper.

 

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I have no idea. This is the first I've heard of so many vaccine deaths that hospitals had bodies lined up. Do you have a link?

It was all over the live news when Covid hit. There were so many bodies they had to use freezer trucks outside the hospitals in the Los Angeles area. Had body bags lined up on the news.

12 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

So what of those officials who told us that the vaccine prevented you from getting or spreading covid ?

 

The vaccines, especially early in the pandemic, DID REDUCE the risk of getting or spreading COVID.

 

Fact Check: Preventing transmission never required for COVID vaccines’ initial approval; Pfizer vax did reduce transmission of early variants

 

"To get emergency approval, companies needed to show that the vaccines were safe and prevented vaccinated people from getting ill. They did not have to show that the vaccine would also prevent people from spreading the virus to others. Once the vaccines were on the market, independent researchers in multiple countries studied people who received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and did show that vaccination reduced transmission of variants circulating at the time. [emphasis added]

...

Within months of the vaccine hitting the market, researchers in the UK (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-tra-idUKKBN2AQ1A7) and Israel (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762, opens new tab(21)00127-7/fulltext) began publishing studies suggesting that the Pfizer vaccine was reducing transmission of the virus.

In February 2021, for example, Israeli data (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736, opens new tab(21)00448-7/fulltext) showed a sharp drop in infections among healthcare workers within 15-28 days of receiving the two-shot Pfizer vaccine series, indicating the vaccine was not just preventing symptomatic disease, but also preventing the virus from being passed from person to person.

...

Evidence continued to build in 2021 that the mRNA-based vaccines prevented infections and onward transmission of the virus (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abl4292, opens new tab). But with the advent that year of the coronavirus Delta variant, plus waning immunity from vaccines delivered at the start of the year, protection against infection and transmission was seen to be dropping, although not eliminated, as previously described by Reuters Fact Check (https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SA1FZ).

 

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/preventing-transmission-never-required-covid-vaccines-initial-approval-pfizer-2024-02-12/

 

 

6 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

A prior report from 2022 by Stanford University, but nonetheless one that is still relevant today for the unmoderated nonsense that is often posted online:

 

So you don't figure there's been any additional data collected in the past 3 years?

 

I realize that this is a poor analogy, but I remember when OJ Simpson and Bill Cosby were heroes to Blacks and Whites alike.   Then, that inconvenient data came out.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Mark1969 said:

It was all over the live news when Covid hit. There were so many bodies they had to use freezer trucks outside the hospitals in the Los Angeles area. Had body bags lined up on the news.

I saw that movie

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

So you don't figure there's been any additional data collected in the past 3 years?

 

I realize that this is a poor analogy, but I remember when OJ Simpson and Bill Cosby were heroes to Blacks and Whites alike.   Then, that inconvenient data came out.

 

 

 

2024 better for ya?

 

NewsGuard Reports More Than 300 Vaccine-Related False Narratives Now Spreading Online

Nearly four years since the outbreak of COVID-19 — and amidst a constant stream of false claims about vaccine efficacy — NewsGuard reports that there are now more than 300 vaccine-related false narratives infecting social media and online search results

 

(February 7, 2024 — New York) Health misinformation site Natural News (NewsGuard Trust Score: 5/100) reports that elderberries are more effective protection against flu than a vaccine. The National Vaccine Information Center (Trust Score: 12.5/100) cites research claiming measles vaccines cause measles. U.K-based Principia-Scientific (Trust Score: 20/100) claims COVID-19 vaccines contain monkey DNA.

 

These are among the now more than 300 vaccine-related false narratives that NewsGuard’s healthcare information team has identified circulating on the internet, shared by 4,387 websites and other news sources and social media accounts — and counting. Two thirds of all the news and information websites that NewsGuard has rated as untrustworthy since 2018 publish healthcare misinformation. [emphasis added]

 

“The vaccine-related false narratives we’ve found don’t just reflect the spike in conversations about vaccines since the pandemic,” said John Gregory, health editor at NewsGuard. “Long before COVID-19, people made all kinds of questionable statements about vaccines, related to autoimmune diseases, infertility, cardiac arrest and other health topics. In fact, 67% of news sites rated as generally untrustworthy (below 60/100) by NewsGuard have been flagged for publishing health misinformation, making it one of the largest categories of misinformation we track.” [emphasis added]

 

(more)

 

https://www.newsguardtech.com/press/newsguard-reports-more-than-300-vaccine-related-false-narratives-now-spreading-online/