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Non-O visa (marriage) questions

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Dear all,

 

May I ask your advice on Non-O visa (marriage), as I am going to deal with it for the first time, and some aspects are not clear for me.

 

1. My fiancée is from Khon Kaen, therefore her house registration (Tabian Baan) location is there. However, we live in Bangkok renting a condo. Can I apply for a visa change type to Non-O (changing from TR-visa), and further 1-year extensions at Bangkok CW immigration?

 

2. Does CW immigration office require financial proof of 400k to be transferred from overseas? I have the funds already in my Thai bank account, but I did deposit locally.

 

3. Is it enough to print an electronic bank statement from the bank app, to show financial proof? Or I have to visit bank to obtain a signed statement? As I mentioned, I am going to enter Thailand on TR-visa, which makes me not confident going to the bank this time due to mass account freeze events happened recently.

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1 - doesn't matter where she's listed on the house book, they just need a copy of her thai i/d and her listing IN a house book 

2 - no, for the Non-O based on marriage there is no proof the funds originated from abroad, only that they're in a thai bank account in your name only before you apply 

3 - no, you need to get the "standard bank letter" (just a short letter stating your name, account number, balance of the account the day they wrote the letter) and you have to update your bank book the day you apply and have copies of the pages of the bank book 

Why not just get the Non-O visa based on marriage from the thai consulate in your country before you wing your way here via the online eVisa website? then when you come in you'll get 90 days on entry and when you have 30 days or less left on that stamp you can just go get the year extension based on marriage to a thai  

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16 minutes ago, Tod Daniels said:

1 - doesn't matter where she's listed on the house book, they just need a copy of her thai i/d and her listing IN a house book 

2 - no, for the Non-O based on marriage there is no proof the funds originated from abroad, only that they're in a thai bank account in your name only before you apply 

3 - no, you need to get the "standard bank letter" (just a short letter stating your name, account number, balance of the account the day they wrote the letter) and you have to update your bank book the day you apply and have copies of the pages of the bank book 

Why not just get the Non-O visa based on marriage from the thai consulate in your country before you wing your way here via the online eVisa website? then when you come in you'll get 90 days on entry and when you have 30 days or less left on that stamp you can just go get the year extension based on marriage to a thai  

 

Thank you so much for answering all questions!

 

The reason I don't apply for a Non-O visa in my home country is because we're not married yet, as we are planning to register marriage in Thailand shortly after my arrival. Then I plan to handle visa change type process.  Hopefully it is possible to do it all within 60 (or 90 days) TR-visa time frame.

 

Not sure, will it be actually easy to convert to Non-O visa based on marriage at CW immigration?

Or should I go to apply somewhere in Thai consulate in SE-Asia? Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks!

46 minutes ago, Banky Bee said:

The reason I don't apply for a Non-O visa in my home country is because we're not married yet, as we are planning to register marriage in Thailand shortly after my arrival.

I almost asked if you were married already because in Bangkok you need to be married two full months before you can use marriage to a Thai national as a reason to get the non-o visa. 

 

So you're going to have to figure out a way to stay until you hit that 2-month period and still have enough time left on your entry stamp to apply for the Visa and stay during the under review period <- you need to have 15 days left on your stamp to apply for in country conversion to non-o

41 minutes ago, Banky Bee said:

Not sure, will it be actually easy to convert to Non-O visa based on marriage at CW immigration?

Normally that wouldn't be an issue, however you are not even married at this point. 

After marriage you would be able to apply for 60 day extension to visit wife. 

That would just buy time. 

 

Regards banking side of things.. Correct answer in first reply. 

Actually I just did mine for extension later this week. 

100b for Bank Letter. 

You would also obtain 3 month bank statement. 

Note the 400k does not require seasoning. 

 

If you obtain the Non O at CW then that is where you would apply for the 12 month exextension. 

 

Plan B would be to obtain the Non O eVisa at somewhere like Vientiane. 

Flight to KK and few days in Vientiane would achieve that. 

 

2 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

I almost asked if you were married already because in Bangkok you need to be married two full months before you can use marriage to a Thai national as a reason to get the non-o visa. 

Seems a rather rogue requirement.

 

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

After marriage you would be able to apply for 60 day extension to visit wife. 

If CW don't recognise a marriage for two months to apply for the Non O, why would they recognise it for a 60 day extension to visit the wife.

 

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3 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

I almost asked if you were married already because in Bangkok you need to be married two full months before you can use marriage to a Thai national as a reason to get the non-o visa. 

 

So you're going to have to figure out a way to stay until you hit that 2-month period and still have enough time left on your entry stamp to apply for the Visa and stay during the under review period <- you need to have 15 days left on your stamp to apply for in country conversion to non-o


Thank you! This information has probably saved me a lot of time, as I wasn't aware of those implicit requirements of minimal marriage duration. As always, they are putting spoke in the wheels.

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3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Normally that wouldn't be an issue, however you are not even married at this point. 

After marriage you would be able to apply for 60 day extension to visit wife. 

That would just buy time. 

 

Regards banking side of things.. Correct answer in first reply. 

Actually I just did mine for extension later this week. 

100b for Bank Letter. 

You would also obtain 3 month bank statement. 

Note the 400k does not require seasoning. 

 

If you obtain the Non O at CW then that is where you would apply for the 12 month exextension. 

 

Plan B would be to obtain the Non O eVisa at somewhere like Vientiane. 

Flight to KK and few days in Vientiane would achieve that. 

 

 

Excellent advice! I'll probably extend my TR visa for 30 days first, and then, if I still have not enough time, apply for a family visit extension for another 60 days.

16 minutes ago, Banky Bee said:

I'll probably extend my TR visa for 30 days first, and then, if I still have not enough time, apply for a family visit extension for another 60 days

Just be aware of two things. 

Some immigration offices have stopped issuing both 30 day extension + 60 to visit family. 

Some vague excuse related to change in visa exempt entry from 30 to 60.

Point two.. If you obtain both the 30 day extension needs to be obtained first. 

Best discuss with your immigration office. 

 

BTW : You mention tourist visa. At a guess you have visa exempt entry. 

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2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Don't dispute that CW won't allow you to apply for a Non O unless married for 2 months, but why would they then allow you to apply for a 60-day extension under the same conditions. That's just illogical.

6 hours ago, Banky Bee said:

The reason I don't apply for a Non-O visa in my home country is because we're not married yet, as we are planning to register marriage in Thailand shortly after my arrival. Then I plan to handle visa change type process.  Hopefully it is possible to do it all within 60 (or 90 days) TR-visa time frame.

Have you familiarised yourself with the procedure and requirements to get married in Thailand?

 

If CW doesn't allow you to apply for a Non O until you've been married for two months, then 60 + 30 is cutting it fine unless you're very organised and plan ahead.

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6 hours ago, Liquorice said:

That's just illogical.


I stopped looking for anything logical when it comes to thai immigration stuff many many years ago 😛 

@Banky Bee

You don't need to buy a real tourist visa to come here, you can come in 60 day free stamp (visa exempt) entry

Remember though, if you come in free stamp 60 day visa exempt remember you don't get your extensions at the Chaengwattana main office you get them at the IT Square Laksi Plaza location. That's where you'd get the 30 day extension on your free stamp entry AND you'd get the 60 day extension based on "visiting family" there too 

Sorry I didn't mention that option in my earlier post, 'rookie mistake' on my part 

@Banky Bee

And just so you know how you "get married" in thailand 

  • You get the affidavit of freedom to marry" notary document from your embassy here 
  • You take that and the data page of your passport to a translation service 
  • They translate them into thai 
  • You take those translations to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs office (in bangkok you need to book an appt) and get them certified as accurate translations

THEN 

  • You and your thai bride to be can use one of the 50 Amphurs (City Halls) in Bangkok (or an Amphur anywhere in the country) to register your marriage..


They'll give you a Kor Ror 2, (the all in thai marriage form) and a Kor Ror 3 (the rose border marriage certificate), <- those mean you're married 🙂

Best of luck with it 

 

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4 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

@Banky Bee

You don't need to buy a real tourist visa to come here, you can come in 60 day free stamp (visa exempt) entry

Remember though, if you come in free stamp 60 day visa exempt remember you don't get your extensions at the Chaengwattana main office you get them at the IT Square Laksi Plaza location. That's where you'd get the 30 day extension on your free stamp entry AND you'd get the 60 day extension based on "visiting family" there too 

Sorry I didn't mention that option in my earlier post, 'rookie mistake' on my part 

 

Tod, thank you! I am familiar visa TR visa extension procedure at Laksi office. But, I didn't know they also issue family visit-based extensions there. Again, your info is very helpful!

7 minutes ago, Banky Bee said:

Tod, thank you! I am familiar visa TR visa extension procedure at Laksi office

Not being picky... Point is you keep typing TR visa extension. 

If you had a tourist visa, you would be obtaining the 30 day extension at CW. 

Most likely you entered visa exempt

(you don't have a visa) 

With a visa exempt entry you obtain the 30 day extension at Lak Si immigration (IT Mall) 

4 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

And just so you know how you "get married" in thailand 

  • You get the affidavit of freedom to marry" notary document from your embassy here 
  • You take that and the data page of your passport to a translation service 
  • They translate them into thai 
  • You take those translations to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs office and get them certified as accurate translations

Not quite that simple any more.
The affidavit is submitted online for approval now.
Appointments required for the Embassy and the MFA offices.

 

4 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

THEN 

  • You and your thai bride to be can use one of the 50 Amphurs (City Halls) in Bangkok

And a lot of these are running scams claiming to be booked for weeks, but with some greasing, same day.

3 hours ago, Banky Bee said:

I am familiar visa TR visa extension procedure at Laksi office.

Clearly you are not as dialed in as you imagine 😞 

As @DrJack54 pointed out, you'd ONLY go to the IT Square Laksi Plaza immigration office if you entered on a 60 day free stamp entry 

That is NOT a TR entry, <- a TR entry means you BOUGHT a tourist visa from a thai consulate before you came here. 

IF you really got a tourist visa online from the thai consulate in your country before you came here, to get the 30 day extension and the 60 day extension after that you'd use the main immigration office at Chaengwattana (Section J) because they extend REAL tourist visas

That's what people are trying to get you to understand.

A free stamp 60 day visa exempt entry (ผ.60-ม.17) isn't entering with ANY visa, and on free stamps you got to IT Square and yes, you'd get the 30 day extension AND the 60 day visit thai family extension at that same office <- because that is where free stamp entry people go for extensions. 

🙂

There's a huge difference between the two, 🙂 

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11 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

@Banky Bee

And just so you know how you "get married" in thailand 

  • You get the affidavit of freedom to marry" notary document from your embassy here 
  • You take that and the data page of your passport to a translation service 
  • They translate them into thai 
  • You take those translations to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs office and get them certified as accurate translations

THEN 

  • You and your thai bride to be can use one of the 50 Amphurs (City Halls) in Bangkok (or an Amphur anywhere in the country) to register your marriage..


They'll give you a Kor Ror 2, (the all in thai marriage form) and a Kor Ror 3 (the rose border marriage certificate), <- those mean you're married 🙂

Best of luck with it 

 

 

Following the list of the documents you provided, I ran into another unexpected snag. My embassy does not issue an "affidavit of freedom to marry", because such process is not regulated by law.

 

However, I have an alternative:

 

- I can write a statement on my own, confirming that there are no obstacles to my marriage (not being married etc.) and sign it. Then my embassy can certify the authenticity of my signature on this paper.

 

- I can request a document from local authorities within my country, confirming my marital status. Then translate it in English and notarize.


Have you heard something about similar cases?

 

Is this document required only for registration in the local ampur? Or when applying for a visa and for visa renewal as well?

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6 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

Clearly you are not as dialed in as you imagine 😞 

As @DrJack54 pointed out, you'd ONLY go to the IT Square Laksi Plaza immigration office if you entered on a 60 day free stamp entry 

That is NOT a TR entry, <- a TR entry means you BOUGHT a tourist visa from a thai consulate before you came here. 

IF you really got a tourist visa online from the thai consulate in your country before you came here, to get the 30 day extension and the 60 day extension after that you'd use the main immigration office at Chaengwattana (Section J) because they extend REAL tourist visas

That's what people are trying to get you to understand.

A free stamp 60 day visa exempt entry (ผ.60-ม.17) isn't entering with ANY visa, and on free stamps you got to IT Square and yes, you'd get the 30 day extension AND the 60 day visit thai family extension at that same office <- because that is where free stamp entry people go for extensions. 

🙂

There's a huge difference between the two, 🙂 

 

You're right! I actually entered on a visa exempt, confusing it with a tourist visa. Thanks for the clarification!

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I have looked into official .PDF for changing a visa type 6. ( https://www.immigration.go.th/?page_id=2506

and there is a confusing requirement in a bullet :

 

- 6.3 Letter from a government office, embassy or consulate,
certifying that the applicant is a member of the referred
family

 

Am I correct, that I won't need such a document? Guessing it is for those married to a foreign person having a residency in Thailand.

6 re.JPG

3 hours ago, Banky Bee said:

Following the list of the documents you provided, I ran into another unexpected snag. My embassy does not issue an "affidavit of freedom to marry", because such process is not regulated by law.

What is your nationality?

17 minutes ago, Banky Bee said:

I have looked into official .PDF for changing a visa type 6. ( https://www.immigration.go.th/?page_id=2506

and there is a confusing requirement in a bullet :

 

- 6.3 Letter from a government office, embassy or consulate,
certifying that the applicant is a member of the referred
family

 

Am I correct, that I won't need such a document? Guessing it is for those married to a foreign person having a residency in Thailand.

That is only applicable if you were married overseas, as is 6.2.

16 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Not quite that simple any more.
The affidavit is submitted online for approval now.
Appointments required for the Embassy and the MFA offices.

affidavit of freedom to marry notary documents are embassy issued so maybe YOUR embassy has you apply for them online but EVERY embassy does not
I will concede you need an appt at the MFA offices in Bangkok to get the certification and i edited my comment, 🙂 

 

4 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

affidavit of freedom to marry notary documents are embassy issued so maybe YOUR embassy has you apply for them online but EVERY embassy does not

UK.

Just to be clear, you complete the affidavit and submit online uploading any required documents, then make an appointment at the Embassy to make your declaration and sign, along with obtaining a certified copy of your Passport ID page.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/confirm-youre-free-to-get-married-in-thailand

@Banky Bee

It would help if we knew your nationality.

 

To obtain a Non O based on marriage, you must first be married.
You claim your Embassy doesn't issue affidavits of freedom to marry.

 

Amphoes usually request an Embassy certified affidavit of freedom to marry and Embassy certified copy of your passport, which must then both be translated into Thai and legalised by the MFA.

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21 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

@Banky Bee

It would help if we knew your nationality.

 

To obtain a Non O based on marriage, you must first be married.
You claim your Embassy doesn't issue affidavits of freedom to marry.

 

Amphoes usually request an Embassy certified affidavit of freedom to marry and Embassy certified copy of your passport, which must then both be translated into Thai and legalised by the MFA.

 

Thank you for your reply!

 

Today I called my embassy, and they confirmed that they can issue affidavit. There was conflicting information on the embassy's website, so at first I decided that it was impossible to obtain such a document.

@Banky Bee

 

Sounds like you have a good idea of what is required and the process of how you can stay until you're actually able to apply for the initial marriage visa

 

Best of luck with it

On 10/6/2025 at 6:15 PM, Tod Daniels said:

I almost asked if you were married already because in Bangkok you need to be married two full months before you can use marriage to a Thai national as a reason to get the non-o visa. 

 

So you're going to have to figure out a way to stay until you hit that 2-month period and still have enough time left on your entry stamp to apply for the Visa and stay during the under review period <- you need to have 15 days left on your stamp to apply for in country conversion to non-o

can he enter on a 60 day get married straight away, don't forget marriage certificate in Thai, then get a thirty day extension and apply for non O

that gives him 2 months married and can apply for the visa after obtaining the thirty day extension.

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