1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Return humans to what? 

 

Please elaborate what we should turn back to? 

A health world where both nature and medical advances work in harmony.

 

At the present we have Big Pharma 95% and nature 5%. should be the other way round.

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

Return humans to what? 

 

Please elaborate what we should turn back to? 

 

Pre-colonization tribal eating. 

 

Tribes and native people thrived on meat, fish.

Then colonizers arrive with white flour, processed sugar, and seed oils. 

And chronic diseases explode.

 

That's why one recent diet craze was called "Paleo" ... as in Paleolithic. 

 

Return to cavemen.  

 

 

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

A health world where both nature and medical advances work in harmony.

 

At the present we have Big Pharma 95% and nature 5%. should be the other way round.

Cant argue against you. Common sense is essential also when it comes to personal health, and choices we can and should make on behalf of our self. 

 

Sometimes we have to think about people and the society as well, and maybe that's where you and me disagree? Vaccines ? 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

Pre-colonization tribal eating. 

 

Tribes and native people thrived on meat, fish.

Then colonizers arrive with white flour, processed sugar, and seed oils. 

And chronic diseases explode.

 

That's why one recent diet craze was called "Paleo" ... as in Paleolithic. 

 

Return to cavemen.  

 

 

 

Life have never been easy for tribes either especially when it comes to health. 

 

Pests, worms and pandemics happened for them as well, and what is the average age and health of those indigenous tribes in Amazonas left today? 

 

Inbreeding as well?

14 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Cant argue against you. Common sense is essential also when it comes to personal health, and choices we can and should make on behalf of our self. 

 

Sometimes we have to think about people and the society as well, and maybe that's where you and me disagree? Vaccines ? 

To me nature's bountiful larder in the 'vaccine'.

 

Eat nutritious food, drink as natural water as possible and breath in uncontaminated air. That will ensure most of the nasties, that some white-coats say cause disease don't get a foothold.

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

To me nature's bountiful larder in the 'vaccine'.

 

Eat nutritious food, drink as natural water as possible and breath in uncontaminated air. That will ensure most of the nasties that some cause disease don't get a foothold.

Most in this world is not as privilaged as you, or me, they live in boxes like ants, and are vulnerable for everything and anything 

16 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

A health world where both nature and medical advances work in harmony.

 

At the present we have Big Pharma 95% and nature 5%. should be the other way round.

 

First time I actually agree with you.

 

*Faints* 

11 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Eat nutritious food, drink as natural water as possible and breath in uncontaminated air. That will ensure most of the nasties, that some white-coats say cause disease don't get a foothold.

 

Your posts are over-simplifications of reality.

The other problem with your posts is that you blame the establishment for everything. 

 

How do you eat nutritious food when there are so many unhealthy options that everyone is addicted to since childhood? And if people can't get away from their addictions, do you blame Big Pharma?

What uncontaminated air? What if you are forced to work in Bangkok with 10 million cars? Whose fault is that? 

 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

Your posts are over-simplifications of reality.

The other problem with your posts is that you blame the establishment for everything. 

 

How do you eat nutritious food when there are so many unhealthy options that everyone is addicted to since childhood? And if people can't get away from their addictions, do you blame Big Pharma?

What uncontaminated air? What if you are forced to work in Bangkok with 10 million cars? Whose fault is that? 

 

Well Sir, did you mean 'me' or people generally. I completely changed my diet in 2019. Since then I've not taken any medicine what-so-every. And guess what?! I can count on one hand my days when I felt under the weather.

 

I agree to a point, with your post. And the problem is education, coupled with a $$$ centric heath system. IMO, better to call it an un-health system.

 

Obviously there is a place for white-coats in this world. As I've said often, 

if I have a cleaver in me head or an arrow in me back; point me to the local A & E.

 

However, Nutritious food is the mainstay of good health. And this is where most western countries health services fall flat. Educating kids about ensuring their good heath, that will see them trough to old age, is just as important as any other school subject.

 

And as for those doctors in training? Don't get me started. The system is a disgrace, from top to bottom.

11 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

And as for those doctors in training? Don't get me started. The system is a disgrace, from top to bottom.

 

Well, RFK has commented about introducing nutrition into the curriculum for doctors.

 

He's changing the dietary guidelines and they are better than the previous ones in my opinion. 

 

Yes, if you have taken responsibility for your diet and health, there is less need for Big Pharma. Most people simply won't make the effort. Or they may be mislead by bad diets and unreliable science in some cases. 

 

 

19 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Well, RFK has commented about introducing nutrition into the curriculum for doctors.

 

He's changing the dietary guidelines and they are better than the previous ones in my opinion. 

 

Yes, if you have taken responsibility for your diet and health, there is less need for Big Pharma. Most people simply won't make the effort. Or they may be mislead by bad diets and unreliable science in some cases. 

Had a bit of an awakening in 2019.

 

I had a visit form my English based daughter. She was in a real mess both physically and mentally. She had been in the Fire Service for quite a few years, and was demoralised after the Grenfell Tower disaster. She was on standby in west London on the day. I'll not go into details, and suffice it to say that her unit was ordered not to engage. She never recovered from the trauma, and later left the service. She was later prescribed six medications a day. I kid you not; six.

 

I persuaded her to ditch the lot. From our conversation, that day, going forward, and that she did. In January of 2020, just 3 months later, she was looking for a new career and was free of drugs.

 

For myself, I decided to change my diet big time; as I posted earlier. 

 

Went to Big C today, and noticed that mask-wearing was back in fashion with some staff.

Good health is the result of sacrificing poisonous beliefs from your brain and fully implementing beliefs of truth.

 

How do you know which is which?  I learned from trial and error.  About 7 years to perfect.  Doing more of what worked and less of what didn't.  And the hands down winner with the best information producing the best results was the Holy Bible.

 

Who would have figured?  Good health is achieved in the invisible unseen realm of using your mind as it was intended.  From my experience I would say 99%.  1% is diet and exercise.

 

Moses journey out of bondage is an allegory for exiting the wasteland of sickness and poisoned beliefs and entering the promised land of your mind where you have power to affect and control your health.  

 

One of my favorite verses is that the diseases of the pharoahs will not afflict you and all sickness will be removed from those who enter the promised land.

 

Entering the promised land of your mind is where the magic happens.

On 10/12/2025 at 3:52 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

The body is an absolute fortress. It has evolved through millions of years to be our first-class defender to things that might harm us.

 

The skin is a big protector. The mucus membranes and lungs do a great job of stopping toxins getting into our blood from inhaling. The stomach will sort through the ingested grub and liquids; taking out what is needed, and sending the rest down the pan. And so on.

 

The body has intricate and complex systems. They work with each other to maintain a positive optimal state within the body.

 

To avoid getting too much complication - I'll condense it down to three, that if properly cared for, will look after us:

The chemical
The electrical
The emotional

The first concerns us with three basic entities; food, drink and air.
The second is the balance of the body's bio-electrical mechanisms.
The last is our emotional well-being and state of mind.

 

I content that it is not germs that make us sick. Not viruses that make us sick. Not epidemics that make us sick. It is the unbalancing of any the three states (above) that are responsible for sickness and illness.

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11 hours ago, Mark Nothing said:

Who would have figured?  Good health is achieved in the invisible unseen realm of using your mind as it was intended.  From my experience I would say 99%.  1% is diet and exercise.

 

It's probably the exact opposite.

 

98% diet and exercise, 1% positive thinking, and 1% having God on your side