The movie 'An Inconvenient Study'  features this tell tale moment when the Godfather of Vaccines - dr Stanley Plotkin - realizes that it's Game Over for the vaccine scam. 

At 1m 20s, Dr. Stanley Plotkin looks at the camera and Aaron Siri, and realizes he is cooked.

 

"The Pharma-Regulatory infrastructure creates an illusion that every vaccine is “100% safe and effective”, that there can never be any side effects, there can never be a causal link, because all the clinical trials are intentionally designed without an inert placebo control....they were intentionally designed in a way that would NEVER find causality.

They use “safety” as a means to get a system in place that protects them from liability. But they only use the argument that “it’s not ethical do do a placebo” when they are pressed, because the lay people that trust government, who are giving these products to their children, actually believe the proper safety studies HAVE been done.

Not only are the trials not designed to hold the product accountable, the government gave an extra layer of protection with the 1986 injury act. They knew that by doing trials where they aren’t comparing true placebo, that they could legally say no causality exists. How can you prove a “causal” link if they aren’t doing the studies which are a pre-requisite for that evidence?

There is no causality without an inert control group and they haven’t done any of those trials." 

 

Watch the movie < https://www.aninconvenientstudy.com > or read the transcript in this article during which Aaron Siri presses Dr. Plotkin on the Hep B vaccine. 

And where Plotkin realizes that his answers provided under oath, should be the death-stab for the whole Vaccine scam. 

 

Source: https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/all-vaccines-will-kill-you-and-your-667

More anti-vax propaganda nonsense.. Just about what I'd expect from the 2nd dumbest anonymous anti-vax blogger in the world.

 

Here's what Aaron Siri and the other like minded loons are attacking:

 

Immunisation Saved At Least 154 Million Lives Over Past 50 Years

 

"Immunisation has saved at least 154 million lives over the past 50 years, since the World Health Organization (WHO) launched its Expanded Programme on Immunization (EPI) in 1974.

 

Of the lives saved, 146 million were children under five, and 101 million were babies.  Global infant deaths have reduced by 40%  and more than halved in Africa.

 

“That’s an average of more than 1000 a day and six every minute of every year for the past 50 years,” said WHO Director-General, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, at a WHO press conference Wednesday that celebrated the program’s successes while warning of the setbacks to vaccination programmes from regional conflicts, the legacy of COVID and other risks. 

 

The measles vaccine has had the biggest impact on reducing infant mortality, accounting for 60% of the lives saved – 94 million. This is according to a landmark WHO-led study, whose key findings were published on Wednesday to coincide with the start of World Immunisation Week (24-30 April)."

 

(more)

 

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/immunisation-has-had-a-massive-impact-on-human-survival/

 

42 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Watch the movie < https://www.aninconvenientstudy.com >

 

Ya, watch the anti-vaxer movie about a study so flawed and poorly done that it was NEVER published anywhere by any scientific journal, and has been disavowed by the organization where the authors worked.

Rinse and repeat: US vaccine hearing on unpublished study debates same myths

The Guardian

Wed 10 Sep 2025

 

"Henry Ford Health’s communications office did not respond to a request for comment in time for publication, but later sent over the following statement via a spokesperson: “This report was not published because it did not meet the rigorous scientific standards we demand as a premier medical research institution. Data has consistently shown vaccinations are a safe and effective way to protect children against potentially life-altering diseases.”

...

Zervos and the other authors of the study were not present at the hearing. The study, which has never been peer-reviewed, is not currently available to the public as a pre-print or in any other form.

...

Jake Scott, a clinical associate professor of infectious diseases at Stanford – and the only physician who served as a witness during the hearing – had a different explanation as to why the study was not published.  In his testimony, Scott said that the study was “fundamentally flawed”, adding that its core problem was that “vaccinated children had twice the follow-up time and substantially more healthcare visits than unvaccinated children." [meaning the vaccinated group with more doctor visits was more likely to receive medical diagnoses, making the comparisons invalid]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/vaccine-hearing-congress-illness-children

 

 

Why This Dreadful “Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated” Study Doesn’t Hold Water (or Logic)

"This recently released small, unpublished study on Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated kids is a load of bol-locks. It is designed to find that vaccinated kids have more health problems than unvaccinated. This is like calling a scribble on a napkin a Picasso — only this one is being waved around in Congress.

...

In short, the “hidden vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study” lacks corroboration in academic, regulatory, or media archives. It’s not proof of suppression, but proof of a claim that is not yet backed by credible evidence. I have reviewed it, and it is a load of crap.

...

• My verdict: The analytic choices are not fit for the causal question as framed. There are major, unresolved biases (especially ascertainment/health-care utilisation bias, immortal-time/time-varying exposure bias, selection & residual confounding, and outcome misclassification & multiplicity) that are likely sufficient to generate the reported hazard ratios—even if the true effect were null. The results, therefore, cannot be interpreted causally and should not be used to infer vaccine harm."

https://diplomaticimmunity.blog/dreadful-study-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated/

 

12 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Ya, watch the anti-vaxer movie about a study so flawed and poorly done that it was NEVER published anywhere by any scientific journal, and has been disavowed by the organization where the authors worked.

Rinse and repeat: US vaccine hearing on unpublished study debates same myths

The Guardian

Wed 10 Sep 2025

 

"Henry Ford Health’s communications office did not respond to a request for comment in time for publication, but later sent over the following statement via a spokesperson: “This report was not published because it did not meet the rigorous scientific standards we demand as a premier medical research institution. Data has consistently shown vaccinations are a safe and effective way to protect children against potentially life-altering diseases.”

...

Zervos and the other authors of the study were not present at the hearing. The study, which has never been peer-reviewed, is not currently available to the public as a pre-print or in any other form.

...

Jake Scott, a clinical associate professor of infectious diseases at Stanford – and the only physician who served as a witness during the hearing – had a different explanation as to why the study was not published.  In his testimony, Scott said that the study was “fundamentally flawed”, adding that its core problem was that “vaccinated children had twice the follow-up time and substantially more healthcare visits than unvaccinated children." [meaning the vaccinated group with more doctor visits was more likely to receive medical diagnoses, making the comparisons invalid]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/vaccine-hearing-congress-illness-children

 

 

Why This Dreadful “Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated” Study Doesn’t Hold Water (or Logic)

"This recently released small, unpublished study on Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated kids is a load of bol-locks. It is designed to find that vaccinated kids have more health problems than unvaccinated. This is like calling a scribble on a napkin a Picasso — only this one is being waved around in Congress.

...

In short, the “hidden vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study” lacks corroboration in academic, regulatory, or media archives. It’s not proof of suppression, but proof of a claim that is not yet backed by credible evidence. I have reviewed it, and it is a load of crap.

...

• My verdict: The analytic choices are not fit for the causal question as framed. There are major, unresolved biases (especially ascertainment/health-care utilisation bias, immortal-time/time-varying exposure bias, selection & residual confounding, and outcome misclassification & multiplicity) that are likely sufficient to generate the reported hazard ratios—even if the true effect were null. The results, therefore, cannot be interpreted causally and should not be used to infer vaccine harm."

https://diplomaticimmunity.blog/dreadful-study-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated/

 

 

So, how do you 'splain the similar study done in Africa?  With similar results?

 

I'm not claiming causality.  I don't claim to know.  Just that we need better answers.

 

And, all of the above nonsense in the OP brought to the world Aaron Siri, an attorney associated with anti-vax and misinformation spreader supreme Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an attorney who actually is trying to get the polio vaccine taken off the market!

 

RFK Jr key adviser petitioned regulators to revoke approval of polio vaccine

Aaron Siri is helping Trump’s health secretary pick to select top jobs despite long history of attacking vaccines

 

"A key legal adviser to Robert Kennedy Jr, Donald Trump’s pick for health secretary, is at the center of efforts to push federal drug regulators to revoke approval for polio and hepatitis B vaccines for children and block distribution of 13 other critical vaccines, pending further trials.

 

Aaron Siri, a lawyer who has been helping Kennedy select top health administrators as part of the Trump transition process, is deeply embedded in longstanding efforts to force the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to withdraw a raft of vaccines that have saved the lives and health of millions of Americans."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/13/rfk-jr-aaron-siri-polio

 

 

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

More anti-vax nonsense.. Just about what I'd expect from the 2nd dumbest anonymous anti-vax blogger in the world.

 

Here's what Aaron Siri and the other like minded loons are attacking:

 

Immunisation Saved At Least 154 Million Lives Over Past 50 Years

 

"Immunisation has saved at least 154 million lives over the past 50 years, since the World Health Organization (WHO) launched its Expanded Programme on Immunization (EPI) in 1974.

 

Of the lives saved, 146 million were children under five, and 101 million were babies.  Global infant deaths have reduced by 40%  and more than halved in Africa.

 

“That’s an average of more than 1000 a day and six every minute of every year for the past 50 years,” said WHO Director-General, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, at a WHO press conference Wednesday that celebrated the program’s successes while warning of the setbacks to vaccination programmes from regional conflicts, the legacy of COVID and other risks. 

 

The measles vaccine has had the biggest impact on reducing infant mortality, accounting for 60% of the lives saved – 94 million. This is according to a landmark WHO-led study, whose key findings were published on Wednesday to coincide with the start of World Immunisation Week (24-30 April)."

 

(more)

 

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/immunisation-has-had-a-massive-impact-on-human-survival/

 

 

This above is the GLOBAL impact of childhood vaccinations.

 

This below is the U.S. impact of childhood vaccinations, since that's where Kennedy and Siri are trying to wage a war against childhood vaccinations:

Health and Economic Benefits of Routine Childhood Immunizations in the Era of the Vaccines for Children Program — United States, 1994–2023

August 8, 2024

 

"Broad access and availability of vaccines is critical for immunization programs to avert disease....

 

Among children born during 1994–2023, routine childhood vaccinations will have prevented approximately 508 million cases of illness, 32 million hospitalizations, and 1,129,000 deaths, resulting in direct savings of $540 billion and societal savings of $2.7 trillion. [emphasis added]

...

The cumulative number of illnesses prevented ranged from 5,000 for tetanus to approximately 100 million for measles and varicella. The highest estimated cumulative number of hospitalizations and deaths prevented were 13.2 million hospitalizations for measles vaccination and 752,800 deaths for diphtheria vaccination."

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7331a2.htm

 

This above is what RFK Jr. Aaron Siri and their associated loons want to undo. Because they're anti-vaxers.  That's what they do.   And more dead and sick children will be the result if they succeed.

 

Anyone who actually watched 'An Inconvenient Study'

knows why it was not published 

They only agreed to do the study  because they thought it would show once and for all that being vaccinated was 'better'

what they found was totally the opposite..so even though they promised to publish the results whatever the results showed...they reneged..the lead author  admits on video that  publishing it would end his career !

LOL, the "Godfather of Vaccines"

He made us an offer we couldn't refuse. 

 

 

As for the claims about Aaron Siri and Stanley Plotkin, in his deposition, despite anti-vaxer efforts to spin his testimony otherwise, Plotkin stood up for vaccines and defended the process for approving them:

 

 

--AI assisted

 

Roasted?  I don't think so!

Aaron Siri vs. Stanley Plotkin on post-licensure safety monitoring of vaccines

Vaccine scientist Stanley Plotkin coauthored a commentary on vaccine postlicensure studies. Antivax lawyer Aaron Siri tries to spin it as an “admission” that vaccines aren’t safe. Predictable.

 

"If there’s one thing that antivaxxers do, particularly antivax shill lawyers like Aaron Siri, it’s to spin and dissemble, often misrepresenting what vaccine advocates say in order to produce a false “gotcha” moment that, if you don’t know the background, can make them seem either to have changed their views or to have been deceptive."

 

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/aaron-siri-vs-stanley-plotkin-on-post-licensure-safety-monitoring-of-vaccines/

 

The author of the above article then goes on to give an example of how anti-vaxers have misleadingly cherry picked Plotkin's deposition as follows:

"What do anti-vaccine folks think he said?

I would say it is logically true that you cannot say, you cannot point to proof that it [the vaccine] doesn’t cause autism.  -Stanley Plotkin, M.D

No, he isn’t saying that vaccines are associated with autism.

I could not say that as a, as a scientist or a logician. But I can say as a physician that, no, they do not cause autism, because as a physician, I have to take the whole body of scientific information into consideration when I make a recommendation for a child. -Stanley Plotkin, M.D.

All he is saying is that you can’t definitively prove a negative."

But of course, that's not the way anti-vaxers have misleadingly spun Plotkin's remarks... Predictable!

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

As for the claims about Aaron Siri and Stanley Plotkin, in his deposition, despite anti-vaxer efforts to spin his testimony otherwise, Plotkin stood up for vaccines and defended the process for approving them:

 

 

--AI assisted

 

2108...   You don't figure he may have changed his tune in light of more recent studies?  You may recall there was a certain pandemic since then.  (not to mention, a new Sheriff in HHS Town)

 

That is how "the science" works... 

 

But not how pharmaceuticals are marketed.

 

21 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

LOL, the "Godfather of Vaccines"

He made us an offer we couldn't refuse. 

 

 

Exactly what they did during the 'plandemic'

 

Plandemic?

 

Calling all conspiracy theorists!!! Predictably for this thread and subforum....

 

"The term plandemic is a combination of the words "plan" and "pandemic" and refers to a conspiracy theory asserting that the COVID-19 pandemic was deliberately planned and orchestrated by a powerful group of elites. This theory claims the virus was manufactured to exert social control and profit from vaccines. The theory, which spread widely online, has been consistently debunked by scientists and medical professionals."

 

--AI assisted

 

Some people ask; just what are these vaxxes for? It's the centerpiece of modern medicine after all. Is it not?

 

Let me put on me white coat and explain the whole thing. In simple terms.

 

You see folks, there is a mysterious and invisible entity, that some immunologists, virologists and my fellow quacking white-coats call a virus. What's more, it's lurking behind every tree; behind every bus stop; behind every unicorn; just waiting to pounce. And guess what? It can change its form. Depending upon the time of year. Yes!! It can mutate! Now, our 'safe &effective' vaccines stop this virus in its tracks. However; some non-believers, only see it as lurking in we white-coat's $$$ bank balances. And computers of course. These nutters - Not to be confused with people out collecting conkers - try to discredit our hero; Billy Jab Jab G. (Not to be confused with the philosopher Ali G). All utter nonsense of course. The virus in yer computer is not the virus hiding behind flying crocodiles. And that can be proved through modeling. And, even more so, by using the new technique; 'predictive guessing'. Sometimes called; 'Making it up as yer go along.' Have to trust the science on that.

 

However; my take is different.

 

Without the dastardly virus, waiting to pounce at every opportunity, we might have to trust what nature has to offer. Rather than $$$$$ induced man-made myths.

 

Without the virus, there would be no vaxxes. Without the vaxxes we would have a healthier populace. With a healthier populace we could more towards our true destiny as humans.

 

And there is more. The nasty little 'virus' is used as a cover for fouling our beautiful earth.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

Dr. Stanley Plotkin

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Plandemic?

Fauchi knew it was coming and warned Trump  that he would face it.

 

 

The above video brought to you by Siri's anti-vax group ICAN, producing a selectively edited version of Plotkins remarks.

 

But at least he's allowed to correctly point out that all the supposed vaccine harms listed by his interviewer have never been proven as real harms on any substantive level... only side effects reported into a federal montoring system that specifically says reporting there does not mean the claim was ever confirmed as being vaccine related.

 

6 minutes ago, johng said:

Dr. Stanley Plotkin

 

 

 

Another major quacker squirming in his skin. Need more of this.

 

Sooner, or later, everyone is gonna see the 'Emperor has no clothes on.'

5 minutes ago, johng said:

Fauchi knew it was coming and warned Trump  that he would face it.

 

I can predict it's going to rain tomorrow...

 

Does that mean somehow I have the ability to make it rain when it otherwise wouldn't?

 

Don't think so!  More nonsense.

 

Predicting does not equate to planning.

 

 

11 minutes ago, johng said:

Fauchi knew it was coming and warned Trump  that he would face it.

 

 

Yup! It all started in 2017. Some think the mRNA jabs were being prepared from then on in the US. So! Why wait to 2019 before getting the ball rolling? Personally, I think the death of Kary Mullis was the trigger. Everything kicked into action after his 'fortunate' passing.

 

 

More nonsense of the same poster, get a life and some education.

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

The movie 'An Inconvenient Study'  features this tell tale moment when the Godfather of Vaccines - dr Stanley Plotkin - realizes that it's Game Over for the vaccine scam. 

At 1m 20s, Dr. Stanley Plotkin looks at the camera and Aaron Siri, and realizes he is cooked.

 

"The Pharma-Regulatory infrastructure creates an illusion that every vaccine is “100% safe and effective”, that there can never be any side effects, there can never be a causal link, because all the clinical trials are intentionally designed without an inert placebo control....they were intentionally designed in a way that would NEVER find causality.

They use “safety” as a means to get a system in place that protects them from liability. But they only use the argument that “it’s not ethical do do a placebo” when they are pressed, because the lay people that trust government, who are giving these products to their children, actually believe the proper safety studies HAVE been done.

Not only are the trials not designed to hold the product accountable, the government gave an extra layer of protection with the 1986 injury act. They knew that by doing trials where they aren’t comparing true placebo, that they could legally say no causality exists. How can you prove a “causal” link if they aren’t doing the studies which are a pre-requisite for that evidence?

There is no causality without an inert control group and they haven’t done any of those trials." 

 

Watch the movie < https://www.aninconvenientstudy.com > or read the transcript in this article during which Aaron Siri presses Dr. Plotkin on the Hep B vaccine. 

And where Plotkin realizes that his answers provided under oath, should be the death-stab for the whole Vaccine scam. 

 

Source: https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/all-vaccines-will-kill-you-and-your-667

Now post the facts about who Aaron Siri the anti-vaxxer is.

 

Also post the Dr Plotkin has come out and stated the Aaron Siri took his interview and presented portions out of the context of the overall discussion, cherry picking segments for his own agenda. 

27 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Now post the facts about who Aaron Siri the anti-vaxxer is.

Why don't you post the facts about Aaron Siri ?

 

 

1 hour ago, johng said:

Dr. Stanley Plotkin

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, the above video is predictably misleading when it makes it sound as though the overall safety monitoring for the Hep B vaccine only covered a period of 5 days after vaccination, which is false!

 

"Hepatitis B vaccine safety testing was not limited to just 5 days. While some early safety analyses focused on a 5-day follow-up period for immediate reactions after each dose, comprehensive safety testing involved longer observation periods to assess side effects and overall safety.

...

Long-term monitoring:

More extensive studies included longer follow-up periods, sometimes extending to 210 days, to monitor for a wider range of potential issues and assess the overall safety and efficacy of the vaccine series."

 

--AI assisted

 

Anti-vaxers mislead. That's what they do habitually, including by trying to create the false impression that the Hep B vaccine is associated with serious side effects, which is NOT the case.

 

Per the U.S. CDC on the demonstrated safety of the Hep B vaccine:

 

A Review of the Safety of Hepatitis B Birth Dose
Vaccination

 

September 18, 2025

 

[a review of some 20 pertinent studies on the birth dose use of the Hep B vaccine]

 

Summary of evidence
"• The safety data available for hepatitis B vaccine administered at birth did not identify an increased risk [for]:

-- Allergic reaction
-- All-cause mortality
-- Expected, or unexpected deaths or deaths due to sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS)
-- Seizures or neurologic disease other than seizures"

 

https://www.cdc.gov/acip/downloads/slides-2025-09-18-19/02-su-hep-b-508.pdf

 

And further on the safety of the Hep B vaccine:

 

"The hepatitis B vaccine is considered extremely safe. It has been rigorously tested and monitored for decades, with no evidence of serious adverse effects. Millions of people worldwide have received the hepatitis B vaccine without serious complications. The World Health Organization (WHO) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) consider the vaccine to be safe and effective. Studies have shown no increased risk of cancer, autoimmune disorders, or other health problems associated with the vaccine."

 

--AI assisted

 

And further from the U.S. CDC:

 

Hepatitis B Vaccine Safety

 

December 20, 2024

...

"Vaccines, like any medicine, can have side effects. Many people who get a hepatitis B vaccine have no side effects at all. The most common side effects include injection site pain, soreness, or redness, headache, and fatigue, and are usually mild lasting 1-2 days.

...

A Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) study compared deaths among newborns vaccinated with hepatitis B and unvaccinated newborns. The study found no differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated newborns.

...

CDC reviewed VAERS reports of adverse events following hepatitis B vaccination from 2005 through 2015. During that time, 20,231 reports following hepatitis B or hepatitis B-containing vaccines, were submitted to VAERS. ,,, The most frequently reported adverse events for vaccines given in combination were fever, injection site redness, and vomiting. This review of the hepatitis B vaccine did not detect any new or unexpected safety concerns. [emphasis added]

...

In a 4-year case series review of hepatitis B vaccine reports among newborns, there were no serious health problems linked to the hepatitis B vaccine. This was the largest case series review of hepatitis B vaccination reports among newborn babies and infants. Several studies have evaluated a possible link between hepatitis B vaccination and multiple sclerosis or optic neuritis. The studies did not show any link."  [emphasis added]

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/vaccines/hepatitis-b.html

 

Would this godfather of demons, Stanley Plotkin,  spontaneously combust if required to place his hand on the Holy Bible while spouting this nonsense?

One poster's so-called "demon" is a distinguished, award-winning scientist, researcher and vaccine inventor to most of the reality-based world:

Stanley Plotkin

"Stanley Alan Plotkin (born 12 May 1932^[1]) is an American physician and virologist who specialized in the development of vaccines. In the 1960s, he played a pivotal role in the discovery of a vaccine against rubella virus while at Wistar Institute in Philadelphia.

...

In addition to his emeritus position at Wistar, he is emeritus professor of pediatrics at the University of Pennsylvania. His book, Vaccines,^[2][3] is the standard reference on the subject.^[4][1] As of 2025, Vaccines is in its eighth edition. Plotkin is also an editor of Clinical and Vaccine Immunology, which is published by the American Society for Microbiology in Washington, D.C.  [emphasis added]

...

During his time at Wistar, Plotkin worked on several vaccines; chief among them are vaccines for rubella, rabies, rotavirus, and cytomegalovirus (CMV)."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Plotkin