1 hour ago, xylophone said:

I'll stay with the science, the facts and the research.

 

Obviously neither John nor you are doing that:

 

A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20071648/

 

Clearly RFK Jr is right, and it is now time to revise the guidelines accordingly, to ensure they are in line with the facts, science and research. Strange that you and John are not.

 

But then you were also peddling some fraudulent affidavit produced by a fraudster, which suposedly showed Trump was a pedophile, weren't you? Talk about sticking with the facts, lol.

16 hours ago, novacova said:

Back in the 70’s my girlfriend gave me this book Survival In The 21st Century by Viktoras Kulvinskas, read and lived by it for over ten years, haven’t looked at it in forty years though it still applies today.

 

Used to see that book in local used bookstores, but never got around to reading it.

 

But here we are. We survived. So far. 

 

 

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yah, they're talking total nonsense John.

 

Have you not noticed, cows never eat saturated fat, but still get fat?

 

Deleted.

I wish somebody changed his face instead

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Obviously neither John nor you are doing that:

 

A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20071648/

 

Clearly RFK Jr is right, and it is now time to revise the guidelines accordingly, to ensure they are in line with the facts, science and research. Strange that you and John are not.

 

But then you were also peddling some fraudulent affidavit produced by a fraudster, which suposedly showed Trump was a pedophile, weren't you? Talk about sticking with the facts, 

Interesting. However, it's not that straightforward...

From the full article:

In conclusion, our meta-analysis showed that there is insufficient evidence from prospective epidemiologic studies to conclude that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD, stroke, or CVD. However, the available data were not adequate for determining whether there are CHD or stroke associations with saturated fat in specific age and sex subgroups. Furthermore, there was insufficient statistical power for this meta-analysis to assess the effects on CVD risk of replacing specific amounts of saturated fat with either polyunsaturated fat or carbohydrate. Finally, nutritional epidemiologic studies provide only one category of evidence for evaluating the relation of saturated fat intake to risk for CHD, stroke, and CVD. An overall assessment requires consideration of results of clinical trials as well as information regarding the effects of saturated fat on underlying disease mechanisms, as discussed elsewhere in this issue (46).

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2824152/

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, candide said:

Interesting. However, it's not that straightforward...

From the full article:

In conclusion, our meta-analysis showed that there is insufficient evidence from prospective epidemiologic studies to conclude that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD, stroke, or CVD. However, the available data were not adequate for determining whether there are CHD or stroke associations with saturated fat in specific age and sex subgroups. Furthermore, there was insufficient statistical power for this meta-analysis to assess the effects on CVD risk of replacing specific amounts of saturated fat with either polyunsaturated fat or carbohydrate. Finally, nutritional epidemiologic studies provide only one category of evidence for evaluating the relation of saturated fat intake to risk for CHD, stroke, and CVD. An overall assessment requires consideration of results of clinical trials as well as information regarding the effects of saturated fat on underlying disease mechanisms, as discussed elsewhere in this issue (46).

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2824152/

 

 

 

 

There is no robust evidence that current population-wide arbitrary upper limits on saturated fat consumption in the United States will prevent CVD or reduce mortality.

 

The recommendation to limit dietary saturated fatty acid (SFA) intake has persisted despite mounting evidence to the contrary. Most recent meta-analyses of randomized trials and observational studies found no beneficial effects of reducing SFA intake on cardiovascular disease (CVD) and total mortality, and instead found protective effects against stroke. Although SFAs increase low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol, in most individuals, this is not due to increasing levels of small, dense LDL particles, but rather larger LDL particles, which are much less strongly related to CVD risk. It is also apparent that the health effects of foods cannot be predicted by their content in any nutrient group without considering the overall macronutrient distribution. Whole-fat dairy, unprocessed meat, and dark chocolate are SFA-rich foods with a complex matrix that are not associated with increased risk of CVD. The totality of available evidence does not support further limiting the intake of such foods.

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109720356874

 

So the science supports RFK, Jr's, amendments to the guidelines.