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Can those scores of small Indian Restaurants be Legitimate?

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A casual walk around Pattaya and you will see scores and scores of small Indian restaurants.  I do not think there is any way the vast majority do enough business or make enough profit selling food.  I have heard that many act as immigration entry fronts, i.e. they sponsor some Indians from India claiming they are cultural experts, chefs, etc, and therefore have unique enough abilities or knowledge to get into to Thailand.  i have eaten in a few of them over the years and only one had a Thai waitress.  I thought most if not all restaurants had to have x number of Thai waitstaff??

 

I have to wonder if they charge the Indian people or their families quite a large amount to get them in.  It would seem that there are a very very large number of Indians and a simple check by the authorities, if they were so inclined would reveal many Visa periods have lapsed. Just a thought

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  • Liverpool Lou
    Liverpool Lou

    Really?  What evidence have you for that bizarre nonsense?   Perhaps the authorities have checked already just to disappoint you?

  • This is about the legitimacy of Indian restaurants.  It is NOT about how AN members feel about Indian tourist.  I'm going to be watching this thread.  If it goes off into anti-Indian, racial commentar

  • This isn't  fair discussion. Rather it is an incitement against ethnic Indians who are operating a restaurant. If one is so concerned, go and make a complaint to the Thai immigration authority. You ca

25 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

a simple check by the authorities, if they were so inclined would reveal many Visa periods have lapsed

Really?  What evidence have you for that bizarre nonsense?   Perhaps the authorities have checked already just to disappoint you?

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This is about the legitimacy of Indian restaurants.  It is NOT about how AN members feel about Indian tourist.  I'm going to be watching this thread.  If it goes off into anti-Indian, racial commentaries, I'm going to shut it down.  Racism is NOT OK.  Racial stereotyping is NOT OK.  Don't go there.

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31 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

I have heard that many act as immigration entry fronts, i.e. they sponsor some Indians from India claiming they are cultural experts, chefs, etc, and therefore have unique enough abilities or knowledge to get into to Thailand. 

So what is illegal about their doing that?  Where did you "hear" that?

46 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

A casual walk around Pattaya and you will see scores and scores of small Indian restaurants.  I do not think there is any way the vast majority do enough business or make enough profit selling food.  I have heard that many act as immigration entry fronts, i.e. they sponsor some Indians from India claiming they are cultural experts, chefs, etc, and therefore have unique enough abilities or knowledge to get into to Thailand.  i have eaten in a few of them over the years and only one had a Thai waitress.  I thought most if not all restaurants had to have x number of Thai waitstaff??

 

I have to wonder if they charge the Indian people or their families quite a large amount to get them in.  It would seem that there are a very very large number of Indians and a simple check by the authorities, if they were so inclined would reveal many Visa periods have lapsed. Just a thought

It certainly does go on , but ..it goes on in every community I believe,  even  the farang restaurant who needs a chef or bar manager on work visas 

 

I mean a french restaurant needs a french chef 

 

 

I must say I always felt safe walking in the "indian area " in Pattaya rather than the drunken area of Soi Bukhao 

 

These indian  boys are lovely and I have met a few whilst there chatting talking and laughing and having fun 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't really know but I have noticed that it's common for Indian restaurant owners to have their hands in multiple pots. Often tour agencies. Also I think waiters from Nepal may be common. Whatever they're doing, it doesn't really concern me either way. I'm happy that among the hundreds of Indian restaurants there are some that are serving delicious Indian food at fair enough prices. One thing I miss are Indian buffets with really good food that are easy to find in most US cities. Like real buffets where you serve yourself. There are some in town but none that have impressed me with the quality.

I think money laundering is rife in Pattaya, Indian restaurants, agogos, bars, massage shops, golf courses etc

This isn't  fair discussion. Rather it is an incitement against ethnic Indians who are operating a restaurant. If one is so concerned, go and make a complaint to the Thai immigration authority. You can tell them that you don't like indians and that's a reason to investigate and to  harass the people.

12 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

It certainly does go on , but ..it goes on in every community I believe,  even  the farang restaurant who needs a chef or bar manager on work visas 

 

I mean a french restaurant needs a french chef 

 

 

I must say I always felt safe walking in the "indian area " in Pattaya rather than the drunken area of Soi Bukhao 

 

These indian  boys are lovely and I have met a few whilst there chatting talking and laughing and having fun 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I think Indian tourists are usually quite happy to engage with non-Indians. They generally speak English as well. 

1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

This isn't  fair discussion. Rather it is an incitement against ethnic Indians who are operating a restaurant. If one is so concerned, go and make a complaint to the Thai immigration authority. You can tell them that you don't like indians and that's a reason to investigate and to  harass the people.

Also of course there are many ethnically Indian Thai citizens.

Unlike f-rang Thai citizens who are very rare.

I know an Indian guy who has a restaurant in Pattaya.  His parents gave him the money to open it, which I would not be surprised is the case in many situations. I do not find the Indian food I have tried in Pattaya that great.  There is a place on 2nd road across from Central that is OK.

Just now, bkk6060 said:

I know an Indian guy who has a restaurant in Pattaya.  His parents gave him the money to open it, which I would not be surprised is the case in many situations. I do not find the Indian food I have tried in Pattaya that great.  There is a place on 2nd road across from Central that is OK.

I switch my favorite Indian restaurants here often, but I'm finding it not that hard to find very delicious Indian food locally. While generally not as good as the very best Indian food I had in the U.S., still very good. I am satisfied with it. No, I've never been to India and don't really want to go.

13 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I think money laundering is rife in Pattaya, Indian restaurants,

..and you assert that with no evidence whatsoever?

14 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

This isn't  fair discussion. Rather it is an incitement against ethnic Indians who are operating a restaurant. If one is so concerned, go and make a complaint to the Thai immigration authority. You can tell them that you don't like indians and that's a reason to investigate and to  harass the people.

Where's the evidence he /she /person /doesn't like indians ?

Selective reading perhaps 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

..and you assert that with no evidence whatsoever?

I know I gave cash   tips to a few indian  /Nepali young men I met who were absolutely fantastic 

24 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

..and you assert that with no evidence whatsoever?

It's likely, bars, agogos, restaurants, massage shops, shops, empty for years but stay open, just common sense. A friend did mention his friends agogo was laundering money.

 

You think there's no money laundering? if you think there is, where? and why?

 

Head in the sand about scammers, mule accounts?

 I know an old Indian friend with a family  who has a tiny tailors shop and I seem to be 
his only customer , maybe once or twice  a year.
When I brought the subject up he said he had to keep the shop
going as his work  /residence permit was based on it .

 

 

29 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

One thing I miss are Indian buffets with really good food that are easy to find in most US cities.

A bit of a tangent but might be useful. When I was a dirt-poor student in Ann Arbor there was an Indian restaurant that I would save up to go to their lunch buffet couple of times a week.

 

I became buddy buddy with the guys running the place so one day I said to them, Look if you give me a monthly deal, like 40% off, I'll be here everyday and pay you in cash start of the month, deal? Response: Auto, you're a friend so we'll tell you, don't eat at our buffet, or any buffet, frequently. We don't throw away what's left at the end of the day. We can't at the prices we charge. So the stuff gets recycled through lunch, dinner and then maybe couple more days. And the oil in our food doesn't age well, nor the meat and fish. Once in a while is okay but not often.

21 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:
43 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

..and you assert that with no evidence whatsoever?

It's likely, bars, agogos, restaurants, massage shops, shops, empty for years but stay open, just common sense. A friend did mention his friends agogo was laundering money.

 

You think there's no money laundering? if you think there is, where? and why?

I did not post that money laundering did not exist, I commented specifically about your allegation that "money laundering is rife in Pattaya's Indian restaurants", something for which you appear to have zero evidence.    Friend of a friend's hearsay?   So credible.

1 hour ago, Bacon1 said:

Off Topic post removed 

 

 

@georgegeorgia

Please close this non sense thread

2 hours ago, gk10012001 said:

A casual walk around Pattaya and you will see scores and scores of small Indian restaurants.  I do not think there is any way the vast majority do enough business or make enough profit selling food (...)

 

It's the same in some Bangkok neighbourhoods now... Lots of Indian restaurants with a few South Asian (most probably Indian) touts in front all day, trying to lure in people. (Several of these restaurants, I never saw anyone going in, or coming out.)

36 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I did not post that money laundering did not exist, I commented specifically about your allegation that "money laundering is rife in Pattaya's Indian restaurants", something for which you appear to have zero evidence.    Friend of a friend's hearsay?   So credible.

You changed my quote, changing the meaning, that's against the rules BTW, i was referring to all those businesses mentioned, i appreciate you haven't been to Pattaya but where is there money laundering?

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25 minutes ago, DrJoy said:

Please close this non sense thread

who put you in charge?

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Really?  What evidence have you for that bizarre nonsense?   Perhaps the authorities have checked already just to disappoint you?

There was bizarre nonsense at Brentford yesterday. 555

And perhaps the Authorities have only checked the contents of the brown envelopes.

15 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:
53 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I did not post that money laundering did not exist, I commented specifically about your allegation that "money laundering is rife in Pattaya's Indian restaurants", something for which you appear to have zero evidence.    Friend of a friend's hearsay?   So credible.

You changed my quote, changing the meaning, that's against the rules BTW

No, I did not, I shortened your comment to the part that was relevant to my response.  You included Indian restaurants in your unsubstantiated  "rife money laundering" claim.  Neither the meaning not the context was changed.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I switch my favorite Indian restaurants here often, but I'm finding it not that hard to find very delicious Indian food locally. While generally not as good as the very best Indian food I had in the U.S., still very good. I am satisfied with it. No, I've never been to India and don't really want to go.

Which place(s)do you recommend ?

5 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Which place(s)do you recommend ?

 

We aren't allowed to talk about that

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