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Alarm Bells Ringing for US Economy

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All four U.S. stock market indexes just closed at record highs. Here’s what history says happens next.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/all-four-u-s-stock-market-indexes-just-closed-at-record-highs-heres-what-history-says-happens-next-cd0385a2

 

Just last week all four U.S. indexes posted record high. This does not happen in a bad U.S. economy. More proof that President Trump is making America great again. 

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14 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

All four U.S. stock market indexes just closed at record highs. Here’s what history says happens next.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/all-four-u-s-stock-market-indexes-just-closed-at-record-highs-heres-what-history-says-happens-next-cd0385a2

 

Just last week all four U.S. indexes posted record high. This does not happen in a bad U.S. economy. More proof that President Trump is making America great again. 

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I have posted this before, but some people just won't listen when the grown-ups are talking:

 

I asked Grok (AI):

 

"Before the big economic cracks the last 50-ish years was the US stock market low or high?"

 

Part of the answer, and for a full answer go ahead and ask yourself.:thumbsup:

 

 

 

 

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Trump is so lucky when markets are up he is the genius if down it's bidens fault. Its also bidens fault farmers are now welfare queens nothing to do with Trump 

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3 minutes ago, Dave0206 said:

Trump is so lucky when markets are up he is the genius if down it's bidens fault. Its also bidens fault farmers are now welfare queens nothing to do with Trump 

Still blows my mind that MAGA actually think he's good at something...anything!😆

 

 

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3 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And the pace of investment has picked up massively this year.

 

As it does in a bubble.

 

Looking how much money OpenAI actually looses, without much of a proposition how it will ever break even, I see the exact scenario of the Dot-Com Bubble, only worse.

 

I lived through it. I tell you, none of us thought it possible that it actually was a bubble until it imploded. We were so convinced that the internet as a new transformative technology was the one thing that would make it different to every other bubble in history -- actually I remember headlines just before the crash that we would decouple wealth creation completely from the old shackles of natural resources or physical production capacity: the information society and service economy (funny how that repeats). We all would have been web designers and programmers, rich by the millions at that, racing around in our Porsches, Ferraris or Lamborghinis (take your pick).

 

If I am right and this really goes pop, instead it will be Dust Bowl-era poverty and social distress in the US.

 

Of course, diversified billionaires will just swim on top of the wave, picking up distressed companies for pennies on the dollar, so not all will be lost for a select few. If you are one of those, I guess you have nothing to worry indeed.

1 hour ago, jts-khorat said:

 

As it does in a bubble.

 

Looking how much money OpenAI actually looses, without much of a proposition how it will ever break even, I see the exact scenario of the Dot-Com Bubble, only worse.

 

I lived through it. I tell you, none of us thought it possible that it actually was a bubble until it imploded. We were so convinced that the internet as a new transformative technology was the one thing that would make it different to every other bubble in history -- actually I remember headlines just before the crash that we would decouple wealth creation completely from the old shackles of natural resources or physical production capacity: the information society and service economy (funny how that repeats). We all would have been web designers and programmers, rich by the millions at that, racing around in our Porsches, Ferraris or Lamborghinis (take your pick).

 

If I am right and this really goes pop, instead it will be Dust Bowl-era poverty and social distress in the US.

 

Of course, diversified billionaires will just swim on top of the wave, picking up distressed companies for pennies on the dollar, so not all will be lost for a select few. If you are one of those, I guess you have nothing to worry indeed.

It does not happen often when a current economical situation is described in such accuracy like this one. Congratulations and thanks.

More alarmist guff. Just suck it up and buy back in. Trump is a shot in the arm for stockmarkets. Even the dullest blade should have figured that out by now.

5 hours ago, candide said:

That's a significant issue.

 

MAGAs are rejoicing about Trump sowing chaos, owning the libs, and hitting other countries' economy. :biggrin:

 

What they don't understand is that businesses don't like chaos and uncertainty. They need to make business plans, assess cost, market potential and prices, and then dimension R&D and production accordingly. If markets, cost and prices are uncertain, they tend to be cautious and spend/invest less.


So who is the Democrats “front runner “ in 2028?

 

I’ll take into consideration the opinion of a non USC.

Markets go through cycles and one thing guaranteed for certain is that there will be a correction and/or a crash some time in the future. Whether that happens this year, next year, or next decade .. Who knows?

 

If you feel the risk is too high with your investments according to your own personal risk-profile, then the answer is to de-risk.

 

My personal accumulation phase has ended and the retirement funding targets have been met, so I have de-risked over a period of months this year to a level where I feel more comfortable. There is no point taking risks with your finances for money you don't need.

13 hours ago, peterrabbit said:

This YouTube video about the yield curve tells you all you need to know!

 

Its coming and it will be massive when it hits, the timing is down to the puppet masters who have been quietly protecting their capital from the coming storm.

 

 

People have been pushing this for years.

The left is rooting for the Great Depression.  

13 hours ago, BLMFem said:

That's a lie, buddy. We can all explain precisely how, why and when Trump is bad, okay?:thumbsup:


You/They haven’t yet!

 

Toxic, vile, blindly rage is not an explanation.

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It's not fear mongering. Look at the national debt, the value of the dollar, rising default rates in credit markets, the bifurcation of spending patterns, wealth and income inequality at record highs, food and housing inflation, etc. I chortle when I read the MAGA faithful poo-poo-ing these warning signs. You think you're somehow gonna be spared when all this goes south? No worries as long as there's still someone's having a harder time and on a lower rung than you, eh? 

 

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”

 Lyndon B. Johnson

1 hour ago, Gecko123 said:

It's not fear mongering. Look at the national debt, the value of the dollar, rising default rates in credit markets, the bifurcation of spending patterns, wealth and income inequality at record highs, food and housing inflation, etc. I chortle when I read the MAGA faithful poo-poo-ing these warning signs. You think you're somehow gonna be spared when all this goes south? No worries as long as there's still someone's having a harder time and on a lower rung than you, eh? 

 

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”

 Lyndon B. Johnson

The quote at the end of your post makes you sound so smart.

1 hour ago, Gecko123 said:

Look at the national debt,

Thank your precious dems for the huge government we can’t afford.  

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MAGA and GOP people - do not worry, Trump and Co. are in control.

 

Sane intelligent Americans - get out while you can.

Just now, JimHuaHin said:

MAGA and GOP people - do not worry, Trump and Co. are in control.

 

Sane intelligent Americans - get out while you can.

It’s much better then the dems being in charge.

I thought the economy was goint to tank in Jan? Or was it Feb? Wait, the tariffs were going to destroy us in April? Thats when the concentration camps to toss trannies into would be set up.

 

I hear we are all gonna die from climate change two years ago.

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2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I thought the economy was goint to tank in Jan? Or was it Feb? Wait, the tariffs were going to destroy us in April? Thats when the concentration camps to toss trannies into would be set up.

 

I hear we are all gonna die from climate change two years ago.

Making things up much?

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Making things up much?

OMG, classic. The Projection is fabulous. Hows sea level rise treating you? Market crashed yet?

The market’s P/E has only been this high twice in the past century — before the 1929 crash that sparked the Depression and before the dot-com bust.

Four valuation peaks

1. 1929 — Pre-Depression
Shiller CAPE around 33.
Credit and speculation lifted prices far beyond earnings.

2. 2000 — Dot-Com Bubble
Shiller CAPE about 44.
The Nasdaq’s P/E reached the 40s, fuelled by unprofitable tech growth.

3. 2025 — America First Economy
Shiller CAPE around the same as 1929 and approaching dot-com levels, mainly driven by the AI boom and Trump’s policies.
The Nasdaq’s P/E back in the 40s.

4. The Future — Artificial Intelligence
Maybe AI is the next elephant in the room — or the next bubble in disguise?


'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.'
— George Santayana, The Life of Reason (1905)
 

NB: The 2007 GFC came from credit excess, not valuations.
'CAPE' measures the market’s price against ten years of inflation-adjusted earnings — a long-term view of how stretched things have become.

 
 
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7 hours ago, TedG said:

The left is rooting for the Great Depression.  

 

People pointing out that Trump's policies are failing isn't "rooting for the Great Depression", Ted.

That's just your pearls talking, bud.:thumbsup:

7 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

It's not fear mongering. Look at the national debt, the value of the dollar, rising default rates in credit markets, the bifurcation of spending patterns, wealth and income inequality at record highs, food and housing inflation, etc. I chortle when I read the MAGA faithful poo-poo-ing these warning signs. You think you're somehow gonna be spared when all this goes south? No worries as long as there's still someone's having a harder time and on a lower rung than you, eh? 

 

 

In for a penny, in for a pound. 

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I thought the economy was goint to tank in Jan? Or was it Feb? Wait, the tariffs were going to destroy us in April? Thats when the concentration camps to toss trannies into would be set up.

 

I hear we are all gonna die from climate change two years ago.

"The economy was going to tank in January", it was Trump's prediction! 🤣

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4396467-trump-says-he-hopes-economy-crashes-in-next-12-months-i-dont-want-to-be-herbert-hoover/

8 minutes ago, candide said:

Anyone seen the 6 month Nasdaq chart? Should sort out the based from the fantasists?🤣 sadly the forum lefts wet dream of Trump tanking the economy was yet more brown stuff. Quelle surprise!

3 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Anyone seen the 6 month Nasdaq chart? Should sort out the based from the fantasists?🤣 sadly the forum lefts wet dream of Trump tanking the economy was yet more brown stuff. Quelle surprise!

So it wasn't Trump's prediction in my post? 🤣

2 minutes ago, candide said:

So it wasn't Trump's prediction in my post? 🤣

And the chart? Does it show an imploding economy?

 

You are caught making stuff up again😅

13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

And the chart? Does it show an imploding economy?

 

You are caught making stuff up again😅

What did I make up? I posted a link with Trump's quote. Your cult master's own words! You are making stuff up again! 🤣🤣🤣

 

Trump added: “And when there’s a crash — I hope it’s going to be during this next 12 months because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover. The one president I just don’t want to be, Herbert Hoover.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4396467-trump-says-he-hopes-economy-crashes-in-next-12-months-i-dont-want-to-be-herbert-hoover/

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I thought the economy was goint to tank in Jan? Or was it Feb? Wait, the tariffs were going to destroy us in April? Thats when the concentration camps to toss trannies into would be set up.

 

I hear we are all gonna die from climate change two years ago.

I don't want to rain or your parade but the tariffs have wiped out your farmers and with Trumps new "China deal" they are back to pre Trump levels. So what exactly has he accomplished?

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