19 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Lots of videos out there showing MAGAs on their death beds wishing they'd got the shot...

 

Yes of course there are.

 

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I'll let the Nobel Peace Prize say it with his distinctive smugness:

 

 

Do you remember the party he had out on Martha’s Vineyard where all the guests were unmasked but the help was forced to be masked?   The optics of that were quite creepy.  It’s almost like all the elites didn’t want the vaxxed serfs to shed on them.

7 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Do you remember the party he had out on Martha’s Vineyard where all the guests were unmasked but the help was forced to be masked?   The optics of that were quite creepy.  It’s almost like all the elites didn’t want the vaxxed serfs to shed on them.

 

I'd forgotten about that. Reminds me of their requirement to have unvaccinated pilots for their jets.

 

 

Why continue to bombard people with this BS?

If you don't want the vaccine or any vaccine, fine. Don't take it. You are like a 5 year old  who empties his bowel and then wants the world to know. You are not convincing anyone with intelligence.

The sooner the unvaccinated are exposed to infectious deadly diseases, the sooner they will be dealt with and we can go on with our lives without their constant whinging and hectoring. It will also remove a burdensome number of intellectually stunted useless people from the world.

8 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The sooner the unvaccinated are exposed to infectious deadly diseases, the sooner they will be dealt with and we can go on with our lives

 

I hear ya. Soon, you reckon?

 

 

Wouldn't it be cool if Oliver Stone made a movie about it? 

 

Fauci- starring Nicholas Cage 

4 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Wouldn't it be cool if Oliver Stone made a movie about it? 

 

Fauci- starring Nicholas Cage 

 

Who would play Trump?

19 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I hear ya. Soon, you reckon?

 

 

European Journal of Epidemiology  2023 Apr 24     38(11):1125–1128. doi: 10.1007/s10654-023-01006-3

Estimated preventable COVID-19-associated deaths due to non-vaccination in the United States

Katherine M Jia , William P Hanage , Marc Lipsitch , Amelia G Johnson , Avnika B Amin, Akilah R Ali , Heather M Scobie , David L Swerdlow 

 

Abstract

While some studies have previously estimated lives saved by COVID-19 vaccination, we estimate how many deaths could have been averted by vaccination in the US but were not because of a failure to vaccinate. We used a simple method based on a nationally representative dataset to estimate the preventable deaths among unvaccinated individuals in the US from May 30, 2021 to September 3, 2022 adjusted for the effects of age and time. We estimated that at least 232,000 deaths could have been prevented among unvaccinated adults during the 15 months had they been vaccinated with at least a primary series

Just now, Patong2021 said:

European Journal of Epidemiology  2023 Apr 24     38(11):1125–1128. doi: 10.1007/s10654-023-01006-3

Estimated preventable COVID-19-associated deaths due to non-vaccination in the United States

Katherine M Jia , William P Hanage , Marc Lipsitch , Amelia G Johnson , Avnika B Amin, Akilah R Ali , Heather M Scobie , David L Swerdlow 

 

Abstract

While some studies have previously estimated lives saved by COVID-19 vaccination, we estimate how many deaths could have been averted by vaccination in the US but were not because of a failure to vaccinate. We used a simple method based on a nationally representative dataset to estimate the preventable deaths among unvaccinated individuals in the US from May 30, 2021 to September 3, 2022 adjusted for the effects of age and time. We estimated that at least 232,000 deaths could have been prevented among unvaccinated adults during the 15 months had they been vaccinated with at least a primary series

 

What is the vaccination status of people currently hospitalised and dying of Covid?

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

What is the vaccination status of people currently hospitalised and dying of Covid?

 

Always squirming when confronted with  factual evidence, like a cockroach in the light.

You were trying to dismiss the fact that unvaccinated people were more likely to die of Covid, than vaccnated people. Now that your false claim is exposed you want to change the subject. Pathetic.

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Always squirming when confronted with  factual evidence, like a cockroach in the light.

You were trying to dismiss the fact that unvaccinated people were more likely to die of Covid, than vaccnated people. Now that your false claim is exposed you want to change the subject. Pathetic.

 

Quite the contrary, it is right on topic.

 

The fact that unvaccinated people are more likely to die of Covid than vaccinated people obviously translates into raw hospitalisation data, doesn't it? I mean data which is relevant in November 2025: there are, as we speak, thousands of people in hospital with serious forms of Covid. Some are dying. The majority, if not all, of these people are unvaccinated, right? It couldn't possibly be any otherwise.

 

This is an easy one for you, you're one move away from checkmate: all you need to do is show me the raw data showing this clearly to discredit me for good.

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Wrong...  and the words are from decades of reports from clinicians who have recognised that mild myocarditis can follow a whole range of viral infections - influenza, adenovirus, even the common cold.

I knew this long before Covid, just as I knew that the risk of Thrombotic events rises during viral and respiratory illnesses.

Utter nonsense Sir.

 

There is no such thing as a viral illness.

9 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

...

Stats showing that unvaccinated individuals account for a disproportionately large share of severe outcomes (hospitalisations and deaths) from Covid‑19 - though the exact proportion among currently hospitalised or dying will vary by location, time-period, variant, age-structure, etc...

...

 

The graph shows the LIE behind the stats showing that the 'unvaccinated' are more prone to hospitalization.

They simply misclassified individuals as “unvaccinated” using antibody jargon and entirely misled the public by claiming that most of the individuals who were hospitalized were “unvaccinated”.

 

 

22 hours ago, rumak said:

 

there were a lot of batches that were weak or just saline or whatever ,  so some came through without major (yet !)  damage.    those people think they were lucky,,,hahaha...... cause their covid was "not so bad"  .    brainwashed into thinking it "would have been worse" .

those people, as evidenced by some here......... are UNREACHABLE  in their stubborness.    And ,  well......  so be it

www.howbadismybatch.com

 

Quite right Sir. They had to have some inert jabs so people would say; ''Had the jab, and I'm fine.''

 

Then there is transport and storage:

 

''This one looks a little fermented doctor.''

"Someone forgot to put the batch in the fridge. Never mind nurse. Get it in those arms. Want yer bonus don't yer?" 

 

What about the guy whose parachute didn't open? And worse! Splashed down right in front of a steamroller. Squashed him up real bad. He had tested positive a week or so before. Another covid death.

 

Or that lady who fell out of the tree, and broke her neck, trying to rescue a cat. Just add it in there.

 

Or all those nursing home deaths?

 

Nowt as certain as data. 

12 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

www.howbadismybatch.com

 

howbadismymentalhealth.com after reading all these endless covid threads? 

 

22 hours ago, rumak said:

Google and AI  are NOT your friend

 

GOLD, right there.

22 hours ago, trucking said:

There was a bit of a worry when 31/Atlas approached the planet [ . . . ]

 

Space is fake.

 

NASA Photoshopped fakery.

 

💯0%

14 hours ago, Purdey said:

It isn't hard to Google anti vaxxers who died of COVID-19. I guess they regret not taking the vaccine.

 

Who took the 1st photo of this guy?  A nurse? How would a nurse have the state of mind or time to do that given the 'pandemic'?

 

Did a family member of friend take the photo?

 

How did they get access to his room given the highly contagious situation, supposedly?

 

The other pics, he's on his last legs but still taking selfies to upload to Instawhatever?

 

🤣

 

It's fake as the day is long.

12 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

It's fake as the day is long.

 

Anyone can take any photo of someone in a hospital bed and then attach any caption they want to it.

 

Whoever posted that .... it's a joke. 

 

6 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

What is the vaccination status of people currently hospitalised and dying of Covid?

We burned a foreigner not so long ago,he died of Covid and was antivax.

 

23 hours ago, rumak said:

Google and AI  are NOT your friend

 

Yes, Google is definitely not your friend (with friends like that, who needs enemies...)  

See this recent thread I opened > https://aseannow.com/topic/1377998-how-google-manipulates-vaccine-perception/

 

And likewise the mainstream AI systems like ChatGPT can and will deceive you as they provide the illusion that

- they take all sources into consideration when answering your query, and

- that their responses and conclusions are unbiased

Anyone who is knowledgeable in areas outside the 'accepted narrative' will quickly find that out.  

Mainstream AI systems are ONLY useful as long as the topic queried is not controversial or challenging the 'accepted narrative'. 

 

But I know of one AI chatbot that takes ALL sources into consideration when providing a response to your query.  And the intent of the developpers of that chatbot was to provide you with an HONEST unbiased answer, irrespective whether you like its response or not.  

I tested it out and the quality of its responses is simply amazing.  

It's called AlterAI and you can give it a try on https://alter.systems/

In a different thread I described my experience using that AI system, as I was underwhelmed by the obvious biased responses from ChatGTP on some of my queries. 

> https://aseannow.com/topic/1377998-how-google-manipulates-vaccine-perception/#findComment-20203265

 

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Why continue to bombard people with this BS?

If you don't want the vaccine or any vaccine, fine. Don't take it. You are like a 5 year old  who empties his bowel and then wants the world to know. You are not convincing anyone with intelligence.

 

Because if it fades from the limelight, they may try shutdowns and mandates and vaccine passports and remote voting again.  It's already been run up the flagpole in several locales for various "outbreaks".

 

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

The graph shows the LIE behind the stats showing that the 'unvaccinated' are more prone to hospitalization.

They simply misclassified individuals as “unvaccinated” using antibody jargon and entirely misled the public by claiming that most of the individuals who were hospitalized were “unvaccinated”.

 

 

You’re not supposed to notice those kinds of things.   😉

 

Imagine the people who got poked and then died shortly afterwards.  Of course the vaccine isn’t responsible because technically, they were unvaccinated.

 

Clown World.

16 minutes ago, impulse said:

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Why continue to bombard people with this BS?

If you don't want the vaccine or any vaccine, fine. Don't take it. You are like a 5 year old  who empties his bowel and then wants the world to know. You are not convincing anyone with intelligence.

 

Because if it fades from the limelight, they may try shutdowns and mandates and vaccine passports and remote voting again.  It's already been run up the flagpole in several locales for various "outbreaks".

 

And I'd also add that, had there been no pushback from the so called anti-vaxxers, you'd be pulling out your vaccine passport as a condition of being allowed onto flights and into various public buildings.  There were earnest attempts to implement them.

 

Even having suffered a Pfizer caused vaccine injury, I'm not anti-vax.  I am, however, anti-mandate.  It's a human right to decide what goes into our bodies, as well as a right to accurate data to make an informed decision.

 

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

The graph shows the LIE behind the stats showing that the 'unvaccinated' are more prone to hospitalization.

They simply misclassified individuals as “unvaccinated” using antibody jargon and entirely misled the public by claiming that most of the individuals who were hospitalized were “unvaccinated”.

 

 

Unless you've had at least 5 shots, you're still unvaccinated.

On 11/5/2025 at 4:47 AM, rattlesnake said:

You can't descend lower than posting a laughing emoji at someone describing serious health ailments. Rock bottom.

 

But you can question someone who claims to know more than thousands of scientists and doctors who would dispute his absurd claim that he somehow knows more than the experts and all his health problems are the result of a covid shot.  But he does had a doctor in Pattaya that is obviously a brilliant person who also knows more than thousands of experts and all the volumes of data.

5 minutes ago, pomchop said:

But he does had a doctor in Pattaya that is obviously a brilliant person who also knows more than thousands of experts and all the volumes of data.

 

You mean the "experts" whose careers were ruined if they didn't kowtow to the accepted narrative?

 

For about 2 years after my Pfizer injury, the doctors told me they didn't know what caused my symptoms, but it wasn't the jab.  Finally, 2 years later (on my 3rd visit to the ER), they quietly conceded that my symptoms were a commonly reported side effect of the Pfizer.

42 minutes ago, impulse said:

Even having suffered a Pfizer caused vaccine injury, I'm not anti-vax.  I am, however, anti-mandate.  It's a human right to decide what goes into our bodies, as well as a right to accurate data to make an informed decision.

I hear you on this bro. But!!

 

I must add; a health system that is built on anti-science and anti-nature, and is held together by money, is not a good thing. Least of all, to little kids. Babes and toddlers cannot say 'no thanks', although they might cry out when the needle goes in. Although those supping from the $$$ gravy river are not too unhappy.

 

For me there are a number of considerations. I'll list a couple.

 

Education. Kids in school should be taught about nature as a subject. What nature has to offer and how it effects us; from the food we eat, to the water we drink, to the air we breathe, to the polluting of it. 

 

MSM. Free, and balanced, speech? --- Specifically in the UK; the BBC's balance disappeared when Marmaduke Hussey took charge.

 

Regulatorily authorities. Telling lies. Fudging data. Revolving door - and all that that encompasses. Must go. Jail time?

 

BP. Big Pharma. If the above three points were realised, things would change dramatically. BP, MUST be forced to PROVE their trial data. The two acts that give the vaccine manufactures immunity, must be reversed.

 

Lots of other changes are necessary; including white-coat training, and medical journals only giving one view.

 

It's a steep hill, for us heath truthers, to climb. Can Kennedy provide the vehicle? Would be a start.

https://ncirs.org.au/how-common-are-severe-side-effects-covid-vaccines-and-how-are-they-detected

 

Anything else is just brain excrement.