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Russia turns inward to target pro-war figures

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15 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont need to "accuse" about your obvious philosophical expressions, Soros worshipper.

And we don't need to hear about your made-up grievances with Ukrainians from 300 years ago. The situation today is that brave Ukrainians are being attacked and killed by Russian scum.

That's not up for debate, so you can take your Putin propaganda and place is somewhere special!

Okay, buddy?:thumbsup:

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36 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

so you can take your Putin propaganda and place is somewhere special!

Notice the body part alluded to lol

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Notice the body part alluded to lol

Lol, yes, the place you talk from!:thumbsup:

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1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

I dont need to "accuse" about your obvious philosophical expressions, Soros worshipper.

Can you share with us some comments from George Soros where he says he hates the United States?

9 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Can you share with us some comments from George Soros where he says he hates the United States?

Why?

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Why?

Indeed. You've never cared about your own credibility, so why should others.

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2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Why?

You called me a Soros worshiper after my rejoinder to your allegation that I hate America. Or were you just Touretting?

I think western help for Ukraine is about holding Russia in a stalemate that neirther side can really win, and essentually draining Russia to such an extent that it will not be a real threat again for decades... if not longer. The West/Nato don't have to put boots on the ground etc., just give Ukraine their spare kit and see how it performs against one of the two only real enemies they have... thus keeping Russia distracted in a forever war.

Russia will bankrupt itself, even if it ultimately gets to keep the territory it has already won, and has also got inself into a position of where it can't afford to lose the war... or win and just continue with a war economy, as it is too drained and sanctioned.

I think the aim of the West is to drain Russia so that it is no longer a credible threat, as we are going to have to deal with Chinese in a few years or so... and don't need other distractions.

 

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You are lucky I bother when I chose too.

We (!) are extraordinary thankful to get bothered by your comments. Thank you so much massa.


It is always a pleasure to enjoy your well-founded and knowledgeable comments.😂

9 hours ago, TedG said:

You are making up the Putin version of history.  The US never sent aid to Hitler.  Before WW2 US companies did business with Germany.  Once the USA entered the war the business was cut off.

2 years in and only when Pearl Harbor crashed the party !

 

 

15 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

We (!) are extraordinary thankful to get bothered by your comments. Thank you so much massa.


It is always a pleasure to enjoy your well-founded and knowledgeable comments.😂

Your welcome Grasshopper. Let me know when you need more help.

43 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

I think western help for Ukraine is about holding Russia in a stalemate that neirther side can really win, and essentually draining Russia to such an extent that it will not be a real threat again for decades... if not longer. The West/Nato don't have to put boots on the ground etc., just give Ukraine their spare kit and see how it performs against one of the two only real enemies they have... thus keeping Russia distracted in a forever war.

Russia will bankrupt itself, even if it ultimately gets to keep the territory it has already won, and has also got inself into a position of where it can't afford to lose the war... or win and just continue with a war economy, as it is too drained and sanctioned.

I think the aim of the West is to drain Russia so that it is no longer a credible threat, as we are going to have to deal with Chinese in a few years or so... and don't need other distractions.

 

Putin is, indeed, destroying Russia.

10 hours ago, transam said:

Again, go back and read, my comments have nothing to do with manpower, it was about cash.

 

Go on, go back and read, then come back with an excuse..........🤫

Excuse? For what?? Differing opinion ?

By the way, ask any average US citizen who won ww2.

10 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Excuse? For what?? Differing opinion ?

By the way, ask any average US citizen who won ww2.

It should be noted that the supposedly evil Americans supplied the supposedly good Russians with endless amounts of weapons, raw materials, steel, food, chemicals, explosives, and fuel during World War II, and were also quite generous financially. The Red Army received almost half a million jeeps and trucks, more than 100,000 machine guns, approximately 13,000 locomotives and freight cars, dozens of ships and boats, tens of thousands of aircraft, tanks, and anti-aircraft guns, as well as several million pairs of combat boots.

15 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

It should be noted that the supposedly evil Americans supplied the supposedly good Russians with endless amounts of weapons, raw materials, steel, food, chemicals, explosives, and fuel during World War II, and were also quite generous financially. The Red Army received almost half a million jeeps and trucks, more than 100,000 machine guns, approximately 13,000 locomotives and freight cars, dozens of ships and boats, tens of thousands of aircraft, tanks, and anti-aircraft guns, as well as several million pairs of combat boots.

It is also worth noting that the aid provided to the Soviet Union under the Lend-Lease program ultimately turned out to be free of charge (as a good will gesture of the Americans). Nevertheless, in Putin’s Russia, it has become customary to downplay the significance of this assistance and to remain silent about its crucial role in the victory over Nazism.

 

At the core of Soviet - and especially modern Russian propaganda - lies the myth of the West’s, and especially America’s, unquenchable desire to destroy Russia and seize its vast resources. No factual argument can sway those Russians who have absorbed this myth with their mother’s milk.

On 11/6/2025 at 7:09 PM, jayceenik said:

I'm pro-Russia, pro-Putin.

100%

I'm a Belgian.

 

 

 

 

Assuming this is true and not satire can you explain to me why a Belgian would be pro-Russia in this?  I know I'm exposed to mostly one side of the conflict but I struggle to see how Russia is the good guy in this.

4 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

I think western help for Ukraine is about holding Russia in a stalemate that neirther side can really win, and essentually draining Russia to such an extent that it will not be a real threat again for decades... if not longer. The West/Nato don't have to put boots on the ground etc., just give Ukraine their spare kit and see how it performs against one of the two only real enemies they have... thus keeping Russia distracted in a forever war.

Russia will bankrupt itself, even if it ultimately gets to keep the territory it has already won, and has also got inself into a position of where it can't afford to lose the war... or win and just continue with a war economy, as it is too drained and sanctioned.

I think the aim of the West is to drain Russia so that it is no longer a credible threat, as we are going to have to deal with Chinese in a few years or so... and don't need other distractions.

 

 

 I don't think that is it at all. The initial plan was almost certainly that the sanctions were going to cause Russian economy to collapse. That was Plan A and there really wasn't any Plan B. It wasn't an absolutely crazy plan because Putin was so terrified of the sanctions initially that he offered Ukraine what was in retrospect an absolutely insanely generous deal in Istanbul that would have been hard to spin as anything other than a Russian defeat. But the Neocons decided to go for broke and rejected it and as it turned out Putin was wrong and the sanctions weren't nearly as potent as Washington and London had hoped. Russia mobilized for full scale war and at that point the sane thing would have been to take whatever offer Russia was willing to give (which was not as generous as Istanbul but still pretty reasonable). But doing that would have been a political embarrassment to Biden just as re-election campaign was gearing up. So basically they just stayed the course without any plan whatsoever. As time went on, the Governments of all those Western European countries became fully associated with the Ukrainian cause so they were now in the same position as Biden and are completely unwilling to sign off on any deal. Trump could have come in and washed his hands of the whole thing and put it all on Europe but he's so incompetent and disinterested in policy that he spent half a year twiddling his thumbs and now everybody is in kick the can mode. Keep providing Ukraine with what is at this point whatever minimal levels of support the public is willing to tolerate in the hopes that the AFU can hold on until after everyone's next general election.   

On 11/10/2025 at 8:42 AM, Gottfrid said:

Join the war pro-bie!

I'm contributing economically to the war.

My govt has used some of my income tax and diminished my pension to gift one billion Euros to Zelensky this year alone.

19 hours ago, Hellfire said:

It is also worth noting that the aid provided to the Soviet Union under the Lend-Lease program ultimately turned out to be free of charge (as a good will gesture of the Americans). Nevertheless, in Putin’s Russia, it has become customary to downplay the significance of this assistance and to remain silent about its crucial role in the victory over Nazism.

 

At the core of Soviet - and especially modern Russian propaganda - lies the myth of the West’s, and especially America’s, unquenchable desire to destroy Russia and seize its vast resources. No factual argument can sway those Russians who have absorbed this myth with their mother’s milk.

Yes, Russia, as the successor to the Soviet Union, has repaid the Lend-Lease debt, with the final payment made in 2006. After years of negotiation and several agreements, the USSR and later Russia agreed to pay a final amount of $674 million, a fraction of the original debt, which Russia ultimately paid off. 
  • Initial debt and negotiations: The United States initially billed the Soviet Union for about $2.6 billion in 1947 for goods that were not civilian-related. After lengthy negotiations, the Soviet Union agreed to pay a significantly lower amount.
  • The 1972 and 1990 agreements: A 1972 agreement set the total at $722 million, but payments were halted. In 1990, a new agreement was made for the Russian Federation to pay $674 million by 2030.
  • Final payment: The Russian Federation, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, assumed the debt and paid the $674 million in full in August 2006. 

Many seem to forget that the British and US Lend-Lease program is what really saved the Soviet Union in WW2, as without it they would have crumbled whilst they were relocating all the factories to the Ural mountains.... the CCCP was hopelessly prepared because Stalin didn't believe Hitler would invade because of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact, and once they had carved up Poland, it was supposed to be a done deal.

7 hours ago, jayceenik said:

My govt has used some of my income tax and diminished my pension to gift one billion Euros to Zelensky this year alone.

I have checked that. It's not only bs. It's totally lied.

 

1. Belgian pensions will not be reduced, there are significant changes for certain groups in 2025, such as: raising the statutory retirement age to 66 and limiting the annual pension increase for civil servants to 0.3%.

 

2. Since the full-scale Russian invasion in February 2022, Belgium has provided 2.2 billion euros of military and civilian support to Ukraine.

 

Please stick with the facts and not russian propaganda sh.t.

 

7 hours ago, jayceenik said:

I'm contributing economically to the war.

My govt has used some of my income tax and diminished my pension to gift one billion Euros to Zelensky this year alone.

You are looking at pension 2025. Have you seen how it is all around the world. I put up 3 pension insurances at the age of 21. We all knew that the world was going in the wrong direction already then. My government do not need to give me any pension and I actually don´t believe that they can when it´s time. Like 12-15 years more as they put higher age from time to time.

After that I went on the Bitcoin train from start, so pension has no relevance. That´s how it is when you have the head on already at young age. Happy Holiday!

7 hours ago, jayceenik said:
Yes, Russia, as the successor to the Soviet Union, has repaid the Lend-Lease debt, with the final payment made in 2006. After years of negotiation and several agreements, the USSR and later Russia agreed to pay a final amount of $674 million, a fraction of the original debt, which Russia ultimately paid off. 
  • Initial debt and negotiations: The United States initially billed the Soviet Union for about $2.6 billion in 1947 for goods that were not civilian-related. After lengthy negotiations, the Soviet Union agreed to pay a significantly lower amount.
  • The 1972 and 1990 agreements: A 1972 agreement set the total at $722 million, but payments were halted. In 1990, a new agreement was made for the Russian Federation to pay $674 million by 2030.
  • Final payment: The Russian Federation, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, assumed the debt and paid the $674 million in full in August 2006. 

 

 

The USSR agreed to repay only part of its WWII Lend-Lease debt — about $722 million out of $11.3 billion (1940s value, roughly $120 billion in 2006 dollars, when the final payment was made).

In the end, the Soviet Union and Russia paid less than 1% of the total value of what they had received. Repaid???
 

And you are definitely a bot.

10 hours ago, Schoggibueb said:

I have checked that. It's not only bs. It's totally lied.

 

1. Belgian pensions will not be reduced, there are significant changes for certain groups in 2025, such as: raising the statutory retirement age to 66 and limiting the annual pension increase for civil servants to 0.3%.

 

2. Since the full-scale Russian invasion in February 2022, Belgium has provided 2.2 billion euros of military and civilian support to Ukraine.

 

Please stick with the facts and not russian propaganda sh.t.

 

 

Please check the Belgium pensions new 2025 rules more carefully before hostile posting.

I'm loosing with indexation.

Belgium has not generally skipped an index increase for all pensions.

Instead, the government has introduced caps on the indexation of the highest pensions (those over approximately €5,000 gross per month).

My pension is over 5k gross a month.

Get it? 

 

On 11/10/2025 at 6:28 PM, 0ffshore360 said:

2 years in and only when Pearl Harbor crashed the party !

 

 

Link?

10 hours ago, Hellfire said:

 

 

The USSR agreed to repay only part of its WWII Lend-Lease debt — about $722 million out of $11.3 billion (1940s value, roughly $120 billion in 2006 dollars, when the final payment was made).

In the end, the Soviet Union and Russia paid less than 1% of the total value of what they had received. Repaid???
 

And you are definitely a bot.

They can’t admit that US aid helped the USSR.

On 11/10/2025 at 6:33 PM, 0ffshore360 said:

Excuse? For what?? Differing opinion ?

By the way, ask any average US citizen who won ww2.

What on earth are you on about.....................🤣

 

Obviously you never went back to READ what my conversation with another was about......🤣

 

Talk about making yourself look daft......................🤣

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