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Person faints in WH, RFK Jr bolts, Trump catatonic

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On 11/8/2025 at 10:45 AM, FolkGuitar said:

Hmmm.... big difference between 'stoic' and 'catatonic.'   I didn't notice much of the former, but he sure exemplified the latter!

 

The fainting happened rather quickly, and Dr Oz was on it. The President's look was one of confusion. The man had fainted, but he couldn't fathom the next few events. I used to see my late father display towards the end. He'd not understand a situation, but rather than continuing the confusion, and ask what is going on, he switched to complete indifference. Its a trait common in dementia patients, doctor's label as apathy. Decision making is affected about effort and reward, leading to withdrawal like this. He stood up and moved to the man, to offer to help, like anyone would (its a built in instinct, we are social animals). A leader, his instinct, once he saw the man being attended to, would have been to lead in clearing out the press, like an announcement along the lines of "thats it folks, presentation is over, can you give up some room, to let the medics in, do their thing etc". That would have been the human instinct to help. The two ladies weren't doing a good job clearing out the photographers, hence these photos capturing a blank expression. This ties in with other observations about his gait, particularly in Alaska, as both are indicative of FTD.

 

Its a fact that he's had two revent annual physical examinations, which included a cognition test and subsequent MRI. Since when does one have more than one annual physical in a year?

 

How a previous President (ironically during an event related to healthcre funding) dealt with a fainting attendee.

 

 

Biden also looked a little confused, similar to Trump, but managed some words of reassurance to people in the room

 

 

 

 

This is a stark difference in behaviour from Trump. Back in April this year, there was an event in the Oval Office. Trump was speaking at a lectarn, looking much more alert. A little girl fainted during Dr Oz's swearing in ceremony.  Trump looks over, doesn't move, and then steps forward, clearly offering to help (whether or not it was needed), a complete reversal in behaviour from last week.

 

 

Yes, I know Dr Oz claimed the President called the man's wife later. I think this is Sundowners. I also saw this in my dad, where his behaviour would change in the afternoon, as he became more tited. Before the fainting, Trump, sitting, not standing, read through some prepared remarks. Along the way, he stumbled over names, a few times he paused, and made up a word, and often he would suddenly stop and go off on a tangent. He looked tired sitting, but standing, more energised.

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