Why is it that some Americans label Palestinians as terrorists while celebrating Nat Turner, the man who led a violent slave revolt in the United States? Turner fought against an oppressive system that treated human beings as property, subjected them to unimaginable suffering, and denied them basic rights. His rebellion was violent, yes—but it was an act of desperate resistance against systemic injustice. Today, he is remembered as a hero of freedom, a symbol of the fight against oppression.

Palestinians, on the other hand, live under an occupation that strips them of freedom, homes, and resources. They endure blockades, military raids, and displacement—conditions that, in many ways, are worse than the lives enslaved people endured in early America. And yet, when they resist, even in ways meant to defend their families and communities, some Americans brand them as “terrorists.”

The comparison is stark and uncomfortable. Nat Turner’s actions are framed as righteous rebellion, while Palestinian resistance is often dismissed as illegitimate violence. Both faced overwhelming odds, both fought for survival and dignity. Why does history allow one to be celebrated while condemning the other? Perhaps it is a matter of proximity and perspective, or perhaps it is the lens of power shaping whose struggle is deemed heroic and whose is demonized.

If we truly believe in justice and freedom, should we not question these double standards? Should we not try to see Palestinians, as we see Nat Turner, as people resisting oppression, seeking the basic human rights we often take for granted?

The contradictions in the American moral world view are systematic and unretractable. You could write a book on the subject. Yes this is contradiction and so is everything. It's no wonder the country is in perpetual turmoil.

41 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

The contradictions in the American moral world view are systematic and unretractable. You could write a book on the subject. Yes this is contradiction and so is everything. It's no wonder the country is in perpetual turmoil.

It's bizarre. In my lifetime blacks couldn't even vote.

You would think they learned something but ...

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

Why is it that some Americans label Palestinians as terrorists while celebrating Nat Turner, the man who led a violent slave revolt in the United States? Turner fought against an oppressive system that treated human beings as property, subjected them to unimaginable suffering, and denied them basic rights. His rebellion was violent, yes—but it was an act of desperate resistance against systemic injustice. Today, he is remembered as a hero of freedom, a symbol of the fight against oppression.

Palestinians, on the other hand, live under an occupation that strips them of freedom, homes, and resources. They endure blockades, military raids, and displacement—conditions that, in many ways, are worse than the lives enslaved people endured in early America. And yet, when they resist, even in ways meant to defend their families and communities, some Americans brand them as “terrorists.”

The comparison is stark and uncomfortable. Nat Turner’s actions are framed as righteous rebellion, while Palestinian resistance is often dismissed as illegitimate violence. Both faced overwhelming odds, both fought for survival and dignity. Why does history allow one to be celebrated while condemning the other? Perhaps it is a matter of proximity and perspective, or perhaps it is the lens of power shaping whose struggle is deemed heroic and whose is demonized.

If we truly believe in justice and freedom, should we not question these double standards? Should we not try to see Palestinians, as we see Nat Turner, as people resisting oppression, seeking the basic human rights we often take for granted?

 

It's time for the people of Palestine to try peace.   They hate the jews so much that they have given up any hope of building a stable, prosperous society.   They are nothing but a bunch of losers 

6 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

It's time for the people of Palestine to try peace.   They hate the jews so much that they have given up any hope of building a stable, prosperous society.   They are nothing but a bunch of losers 

Are Jews superior to Palestinians?

Just now, JimCM said:

Are Jews superior to Palestinians?

They have built a nice nation.   The Palestinians invented hijacking.   The Palestinians are losers. 

10 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Are Jews superior to Palestinians?

Someone needs to ask the Palestinians the question.   What is the definition of insanity?

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

Someone needs to ask the Palestinians the question.   What is the definition of insanity?

I want to know what you think. 

14 minutes ago, JimCM said:

I want to know what you think. 

 

No you do not. You  are using the forum to promote a campaign of disinformation.

 

 

 

Another comedic gold thread ... love it ... 

Comparing Palestinians with slaves?? I'm sure they would be thrilled to hear that... 😆

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

I want to know what you think. 

 

Aka..... im trying to get you into a gotcha moment. 

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

I want to know what you think. 

I already told you what I think.   

2 hours ago, TedG said:

 

It's time for the people of Palestine to try peace.   They hate the jews so much that they have given up any hope of building a stable, prosperous society.   They are nothing but a bunch of losers 

Do you know why they hate the Jews?

Not sure what your fear is.

5 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Do you know why they hate the Jews?

Not sure what your fear is.

I don't care why, and they hate the Jews.    The fact is, what the Palestinians are doing is not working out for the people.   They should spend their resources building a nice society.   Which they are not. 

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

Do you know why they hate the Jews?

 

 

    Yes, they believe that THEY are the true believers .

Mohamed's word should be spread .

The World needs to convert to Islam 

Jews need to change their beliefs to Islamic beliefs 

Thats why they oppose Judaism 

 

5 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

The contradictions in the American moral world view are systematic and unretractable. You could write a book on the subject. Yes this is contradiction and so is everything. It's no wonder the country is in perpetual turmoil.

Omg lol...a lot of big words there 

"Perpetual turmoil " lol

Please explain 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Yes, they believe that THEY are the true believers .

Mohamed's word should be spread .

The World needs to convert to Islam 

Jews need to change their beliefs to Islamic beliefs 

Thats why they oppose Judaism 

 

 

Are all the Palestinians crazy lunatics   with bombs strapped to their backs screaming "death to America, death to Israel"? So you think the same about Iran? How about all those Masonic Lodges and even the Iranian Parliament has a shape of a Pyramid with 33 windows? 

 

https://linfordresearch.info/fordownload/World of Fmy/Nairn Middle East.pdf

9 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

The contradictions in the American moral world view are systematic and unretractable. You could write a book on the subject. Yes this is contradiction and so is everything. It's no wonder the country is in perpetual turmoil.

There have been many books written on the subject of American hypocrisy.

7 hours ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

Are all the Palestinians crazy lunatics   with bombs strapped to their backs screaming "death to America, death to Israel"

They are slaves revolting against their prison guards.

I can understand why the shout death to Israel and the USA who support them.

36 minutes ago, JimCM said:

They are slaves revolting against their prison guards.

I can understand why the shout death to Israel and the USA who support them.

The Jewish people are The Chosen People of The God of Israel.  The God of Israel has chosen them and has given them all the land from the Euphrates River to the Nile and beyond.  Because God decreed it so, any land they want is their land.  Amalak's must leave.  As God's Chosen People, the Jewish people can do no wrong. To say anything different is antisemitic and a slap to the face of God, who is All Good and Deserving Of All Our Love.  

Or so the story goes......for those who believe it.

Troll post removed.

 

@Yagoda final warning 10. You will not post troll messages. Trolling is the act of purposefully antagonizing forum members by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other members into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

 

 

43 minutes ago, JimCM said:

They are slaves revolting against their prison guards.

I can understand why the shout death to Israel and the USA who support them.

Their 'prison guards' are Hamas, not Israel.

A post condemning individual citizens of a state was removed. Please limit this discussion to the actions of states or political parties within them  Do not attack members for holding this or that citizenship. Thank you @JimCM

14 minutes ago, Katatonica said:

Their 'prison guards' are Hamas, not Israel.

Really, is this minister Hamas 

https://globalrightscompliance.org/there-will-be-no-electricity-no-food-no-water-no-fuel-everything-will-be-closed-the-unlawful-siege-and-starvation-of-civilians-in-gaza/

36 minutes ago, Katatonica said:

Their 'prison guards' are Hamas, not Israel.

So Hamas built the wall to keep them all locked into Gaza?

14 hours ago, JimCM said:

Are Jews superior to Palestinians?

Of course they are , in every way , name one way in which they are not  

 

44 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Really, is this minister Hamas

Of course he is,  they all are

 

24 minutes ago, JimCM said:

So Hamas built the wall to keep them all locked into Gaza?

Well they need to build a better one   to keep the  murdering savages where they belong

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

course they are , in every way , name one way in which they are not  

Have you forgotten your own holy Torah?

 

Genesis 1:27

“God created the human in His image… male and female He created them.”

 

Exodus 12:49

“There shall be one law for the citizen and for the stranger who lives among you.”

1 minute ago, JimCM said:

Have you forgotten your own holy Torah?

 

Genesis 1:27

“God created the human in His image… male and female He created them.”

 

Exodus 12:49

“There shall be one law for the citizen and for the stranger who lives among you.”

I have no idea what you are talking about, I have no holy Torah there is no such  thing as god.   Very poor response , try again

7 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I have no idea what you are talking about, I have no holy Torah there is no such  thing as god.   Very poor response , try again

So you never read these passages when you were young/at school?