Dear Folks,

 

Most people know, and have known, that ChatGPT is the clear loser.  Sammy Boy was never intended to win this game, and nobody wants him to win. This might be due to his lack of talent, or his difficult personality, or his machiavellian nature, or for a multiplicity of other good reasons.

 

Microsoft should never have backed a loser.

 

But, what do the benchmarks say, these days?

 

 

So the question is:  How much longer will users pay a subscription to ChatGPT, an offering which is far less inclusive in services offered, and is already sagging and lagging behind the leader?

 

Are you planning to continue using the services of this loser?

Do you even pay money to ChatGPT, one shudders to consider that you might?

 

Sure you might still call it ChatGPT, sort of a nervous tic, but are you usually using Gemini these days, instead?

 

Hopefully more people will see the light.

There is no point in backing and encouraging the known loser…

Is there?

 

Best regards,

Gamma

 

Note: Everything just fits together well with Gemini and Google’s other services. Can’t everyone see this logic?

 

 

Wouldn't touch Gemini with a bargepole!  - too invasive.

Just now, CharlieH said:

Wouldn't touch Gemini with a bargepole!  - too invasive.

 

What do you mean, in what way is it too invasive?

 

 

I use ChatGPT, never had to pay any subscription...

8 minutes ago, simon43 said:

I use ChatGPT, never had to pay any subscription...

 

You mean you expect to use ChatGPT for free?

No ads?

No fees?

 

And plenty of free lunch?

 

This makes no business sense, and so you cannot expect to get something for nothing.

 

Speaking of lunch:  ChatGPT is like a ham sandwich. It's good, once in a while, in order to remind one that there are many better choices, one which are healthier, too.

 

And, which option will the Enterprise sector use?

Apple is going with Gemini, already.

 

Gemini runs Anthropic, if I am not mistaken, but I should check this to see how far this integration reaches, as of this time.

 

 

Sammy Boy is going down.

 

Let the loser lose.

Let no-one back a user.

This is Darwinian Materialism at its best....

 

Sammy will fall by the wayside, and humanity will evolve into machines.

But, that is in the far future.

 

As for now, my advice is to back and support the winner.

 

Artificially supporting the loser gets us no evolutionary advantage.

 

 

 

I prefer Deepseek, just use Gemini as backup

45 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I prefer Deepseek, just use Gemini as backup

 

And, what is your reasoning for this choice?

I have a friend who has a ChatGPT agent "best friend". It has a name and a personality. He consults with it for all his life and business decisions, it even gives him spiritual and financial advice. He can't be persuaded to switch to Claude or Gemini because he fears losing his best friend. I think he's totally lost the plot....

 

I personally went from ChatGPT to Claude, to Deepseek, then back to Claude, and now testing Gemini. I am brand agnostic, I will work with whatever does the job best. I also host my own opensource models on my PC, although apart from making pretty images, they aren't remotely as powerful as the big boys.

 

Pro tip, never pay more than a month at a time for any of these (if you pay at all). If you pay for a full year you will watch all the other agents leapfrog yours and you'll be stuck.

46 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

And, what is your reasoning for this choice?

I've only used Deepseek and Gemini and i just preferred Deepseeks answers, the only problem with it is it has a system date of June 2024, no info after that so don't ask about peoples ages and holidays etc

13 minutes ago, clokwise said:

I have a friend who has a ChatGPT agent "best friend". It has a name and a personality. He consults with it for all his life and business decisions, it even gives him spiritual and financial advice. He can't be persuaded to switch to Claude or Gemini because he fears losing his best friend. I think he's totally lost the plot....

 

I personally went from ChatGPT to Claude, to Deepseek, then back to Claude, and now testing Gemini. I am brand agnostic, I will work with whatever does the job best. I also host my own opensource models on my PC, although apart from making pretty images, they aren't remotely as powerful as the big boys.

 

Pro tip, never pay more than a month at a time for any of these (if you pay at all). If you pay for a full year you will watch all the other agents leapfrog yours and you'll be stuck.

i can see people opting for relationships with these soon, better answers and companions, not everyone needs the physical side

21 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I've only used Deepseek and Gemini and i just preferred Deepseeks answers, the only problem with it is it has a system date of June 2024, no info after that so don't ask about peoples ages and holidays etc

 

The problem is that Deepseek is not even a contender, anymore, at this time.

Why choose an inferior product?

Just to be a contrarian for no good reason?

 

 

Using Deepseek makes no sense, at this point.

 

Also, for anyone who actually wants to get a better analysis of all AI, then the following channel is far better than most, and the others just don't even come close.

 

https://www.youtube.com/@aiexplained-official

 

Those that watch this channel might be forced to think, which might be an insurmountable hurdle for some.

 

 

 

 

 

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Well, I AM getting something for nothing 🙂

 

I use ChatGPT on a daily basis, either to generate text, to answer my questions (for background information), or to generate images.  Never seen any adverts, never had to pay...

 

Am I doing something wrong?

27 minutes ago, clokwise said:

He can't be persuaded to switch to Claude or Gemini because he fears losing his best friend. I think he's totally lost the plot....

 

Why not just copy and past from the loser ChatGPT to Gemini.

Should be the simplest solution.

 

Anyway, your friend did not choose wisely when making his first choice of technology.

 

This is why I spent a great deal of time before choosing SUSE Linux in the year 2000.

And, it wasn't even an issue for me when I chose Gemini over that machiavellian nitwit Sam.

 

One needed only know his personality, and lack of talent, and the fact that his rise was based on manipulation, political and otherwise, and nothing of substance.

Sam has very little of substance.

 

He is a manipulator.

A PT Barnum, if you will.

 

He is not the real deal, in terms of IT or AI.

 

 

12 minutes ago, simon43 said:

I use ChatGPT on a daily basis, either to generate text, to answer my questions (for backound information), or to generate images.  Never seen any adverts, never had to pay...

 

Am I doing something wrong?

 

Most definitely your doing something wrong....!

 

You are using ChatGPT.

 

 

Some guys, though, are very unwilling to accept change.

This is where rigidity harms progress.

 

ChatGPT is already in the dust, and will soon be in the dust bin.

 

Check out the video link....

 

This should have been obvious before now.

 

I recall when Bard had such a hard time.

There were those who were worried.

 

But, of course, most obviously, there was zero to worry about.

 

The only wild card is Microsoft.

Still, Gemini's rate of advancement is now just too strong.

 

So, Microsoft backed a loser, once again.

Just as did Gates, many years ago, when he thought the internet was a flash in the pan.

 

Gemini is now just too strong.

One can liken Gemini to Secretariat.

Nobody is going to get close again.

 

 

The Bard failure was the best thing to happen to Google.

This led to CODE RED.

 

Now.

It's payback time.

BIG TIME.

 

Watch Sammy Run.

Sammy has already commented on this in one of his internal memos.

 

24 minutes ago, simon43 said:

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Well, I AM getting something for nothing 🙂

 

I use ChatGPT on a daily basis, either to generate text, to answer my questions (for background information), or to generate images.  Never seen any adverts, never had to pay...

 

Am I doing something wrong?

I use chat GPT for free as well.

GG seems to be ignoring that and giving some nonsensical responses.

It's free and I don't just it much so I have no problem with it.

3 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

I use chat GPT for free as well.

GG seems to be ignoring that and giving some nonsensical responses.

It's free and I don't just it much so I have no problem with it.

 

I am merely referring to the future, the near future.

 

Who is paying for your free lunch?

How long will ChatGPT be willing to continue paying for your free lunch.

 

And, also, if there is a better AI, such as Gemini, which is also free (for now), then are you making sense by not changing to the better horse?

 

Perplexity works for me. Gemini 2nd, Co-P 3rd then Chat. 

 

It seems that almost everyone knows that ChatGPT is dead, except...

Maybe Sammy Boy, although I think he knows, too.

 

And, a few holdouts who don't really know much about using AI.

 

There is no point in wasting additional resources, simply since ChatGPT has been rendered without a reason to live.

 

Even ChatGPT's model is too dumb to know its goose is already cooked.

 

Unlike some here, I have no agenda, no skin in the game.  I've used free versions of ChatGPT, Gemini, Anthropic, and Deepseek for writing code.  Gemini seems to do the best job.  Probably because it gives one of the largest context windows on the free version.  Without a sufficiently large window, the AI will start to forget previous code written, if it is long enough, as you ask it to make changes, and then it starts making mistakes. 

 

Deepseek seemed to write the most sophisticated code, but it's context window was too small so it forgot a lot of stuff when I asked it to make changes. It also times out after awhile on the free version. I'm sure the paid version would be a lot better.