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Moving From Non-B to Ed Visa

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I am trying to get some clarity of how to smoothly transition from a work permit/non-o visa, to an Ed Visa.

 

I've finished working at a job for one year with a valid work permit and visa. My work permit and visa expire December 15.

 

My school has prepared paperwork for me to go to immigration next Tuesday the 9th to cancel my visa. My understanding is that I can then get a 7-day extension of stay.

 

I have a flight to Laos on Dec 14th. All the paperwork and e-application for the Ed Visa is ready to go. But here are my questions:

 

1. My job is saying there's no need to cancel the work permit before the visa. I just go to immigration and that's that. They'll cancel the work permit a few days later. Is that true?

 

2. If my job doesn't cancel the work permit, does this affect the Education Visa application in any way?

 

3. Would it be simpler just to avoid immigration and leave the country on the 14th, effectively nullifying the visa, then getting the new visa in Laos? People suggest that this could cause unspecified "problems" later.

 

4. The day I plan to go to immigration is December 9th. The 10th is a holiday. I'll get there bang at 7:30, but is there a chance they won't process the documents?

8 minutes ago, TravelTeach said:

I am trying to get some clarity of how to smoothly transition from a work permit/non-o visa, to an Ed Visa.

 

I've finished working at a job for one year with a valid work permit and visa. My work permit and visa expire December 15.

It's highly unusual to have an extension of stay based on Non O and work permit unless married to a Thai.
If your extension was based on Thai spouse, then you only need to cancel the WP.

The extension is still valid.

It sounds like you're confused.  You would have originally had a non-B, not a non-O, if it was for work.

But you're not on any visa anymore.  You're currently on an extension, and that extension is likely based on working in Thailand.

 

There is no 7 day extension when you cancel your work extension.  You are expected to leave Thailand the day your work ends (the date on the letter). 
You can try applying for an extension you do not qualify for, and they might accept the application and your 1900 baht and give you a 7-day "extension denied" stamp which gives you 7 days to leave Thailand.  Those 7 days include the day you apply for the extension, so it's more like 6 days. They do not have to give this to you if they do not want to.

If your paperwork from your employer states that you will finish working on December 15th, then they will cancel your extension and stamp you in until December 15th. If the paperwork has the date of December 9th on it, then that's the date they will cancel your extension for.

 

1) While your employer can cancel your work permit, it's your work permit and it's ultimately your responsibility.  Also, immigration will possibly require your cancelled work permit in order to cancel your work extension.

 

2) Possibly

 

3) No, do not just leave without canceling your extension.  When you got your extension you signed documents that stated you would notify immigration of any change in status.  You will stop working, and that's a change in status.  Even if your extension expires, you are still required to notify immigration because you told them you would.  If you do not cancel your extension, it's possible the embassy will not issue you a visa, and it's also possible that immigration in Thailand will not allow you to apply for an extension until you cancel your work permit.  When you go to do that, you will be fined 500 baht per day since the day you stopped working, up to a maximum of 20,000 baht, for failing to notify them as you agreed.

 

4) There's no reason they wouldn't process the cancellation on the 9th. But make sure you are going to the immigration office that issued the extension. They are the only ones that can cancel it.

2 hours ago, TravelTeach said:

3. Would it be simpler just to avoid immigration and leave the country on the 14th, effectively nullifying the visa, then getting the new visa in Laos? People suggest that this could cause unspecified "problems" later.

NO that is a bad BAD idea.. 👎 👎 👎
You are not on any visa, you're on an extension of stay based on employment and that does NOT "nullify" when you stamp out. Your extensions of stay needs to be cancelled BEFORE you leave the country to go get the ED visa via the online eVisa system in another country. 

Because if you don't cancel it before you go, you aren't getting an extension on that 90 day ED visa you're comin' back in on at the immigration office when you run that stamp down and when you do cancel that 'open extension' you will be fined 500baht for every day after you stopped working until you do cancel it (up to 20K after 40 days) .  

Cancel the Extension, leave the country, (watch for holidays at immigrations here and at the embassy in what ever country it is you're going for the visa 🙂  

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1 hour ago, BrandonJT said:

It sounds like you're confused.  You would have originally had a non-B, not a non-O, if it was for work.

 

Thanks Brandon, you're correct: non-o.

 

1 hour ago, BrandonJT said:

You can try applying for an extension you do not qualify for, and they might accept the application and your 1900 baht and give you a 7-day "extension denied" stamp which gives you 7 days to leave Thailand.  Those 7 days include the day you apply for the extension, so it's more like 6 days. They do not have to give this to you if they do not want to.

This is the plan. Thanks again.

 

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1 hour ago, Tod Daniels said:

Your extensions of stay needs to be cancelled BEFORE you leave the country to go get the ED visa via the online eVisa system in another country. 

 

Thanks Tod, but I may have mixed up my words. Currently I have my visa and WP. So my plan is: go to the Labor Department first thing in the morning on the 9th to cancel the WP. Then immediately go to immigration to cancel the visa. Apply for the extension, but get denied, and get a 7-day stamp. Fly out on the 14th to Laos. Does that seem right?

 

4 hours ago, BrandonJT said:

There is no 7 day extension when you cancel your work extension.  You are expected to leave Thailand the day your work ends (the date on the letter). 

Exemption: If you are on a WP from an BOI company you get 7-21 days extension.

I got 14 days, got new job next day.

2 hours ago, TravelTeach said:

Thanks Brandon, you're correct: non-o.

You mean Non B.

 

As explained, that Non B visa expired a long time ago, and you've since been extending your permit of stay.

2 hours ago, Liquorice said:
5 hours ago, TravelTeach said:

Thanks Brandon, you're correct: non-o.

You mean Non B.

 

As explained, that Non B visa expired a long time ago, and you've since been extending your permit of stay.

OP, is it difficult to be clear. 

You either had a Non O based on marriage or retirement OR Non B initially

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On 12/5/2025 at 8:36 PM, DrJack54 said:

OP, is it difficult to be clear. 

You either had a Non O based on marriage or retirement OR Non B initially

Non-B. I was just working. Nothing to do with marriage, my mistake.

It seems to me that the ED visa is the new way to try to stay longer.People should know that IMM request the proof that this visa is the valid reason for staying in Thailand.They revoked thousands of ED visas this year.

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Update: I'd like to update this for anyone else in the same situation. Mods, if at all possible it would be great to change the title of my post to fix my error (I said non-o instead of non-b).

 

First off, the Labor Bureau would not cancel my work permit, as they said I must be accompanied by a Thai person. But this was a moot point because they said immigration did not require me to cancel the work permit first. They recommended my employer cancel the permit, which my employer subsequently agreed to do later this week.

 

At immigration they were very polite, and processed the extension cancellation without issue. I was then given a further 7-day extension to leave the country, at the cost of 1900 baht. Since my flight leaves in 5 days, this is perfect.

 

Pleasantly, it was all smiles from the officers in both places. They were very helpful. I guess the Christmas spirit has settled in our fair land? Either way, I'm not complaining.

 

Thanks to everyone who helped.

 

 

4 hours ago, TravelTeach said:

At immigration they were very polite, and processed the extension cancellation without issue. I was then given a further 7-day extension to leave the country, at the cost of 1900 baht. Since my flight leaves in 5 days, this is perfect.

You did not receive an extension.  You received an "extension denied" stamp.

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