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Trump wants to recreate a white America that never existed

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On 12/6/2025 at 9:48 PM, TedG said:

 

The current administration’s attacks on illegal immigrants

 

^^^I fixed it for you. 

It's strange that people keep missing that word 'illegal' out of conversations?

I wonder why?

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17 hours ago, novacova said:

That’s a good thing as you should be, nothing wrong with being a patriot and being secure in your ideas.

Not so wrong. Though folks are free to believe as they please. The only thing that holds socialism together in Western countries is capitalism, without capitalism the West would descend into full fledged communism, the further into socialism a country goes the more people depend on government by virtue of the false promises delivered and closer to tyranny, which is a historical fact, Soviet Union, China, Cuba and Venezuela are good examples, that the left are incapable of reconciling with. Capitalism is the pinnacle of hope for humanity which has brought most of the world out of poverty and advanced civilization with the freedom of ingenuity. What advancements has socialism brought besides stealing from others, such as China and Russia of which has brought nothing except for stealing from its own people and technology from other nations. The entire foundation of advanced civilization on earth is due to capitalism and the left is looking to erode and destroy it right out from under your nose while dangling the false hopes and promises that has never developed in the past, and one of the methods that they use to achieve their goal is inciting divisions and in doing so by means of using race as a tool puts the left in a box of being racist, they themselves are exactly what they accuse others of being.

If it's such a good thing, why is Trump demanding shares in private companies or buying shares and reserving the right to overrule their decisions?

4 hours ago, thesetat said:

Native Americans are the American Indians only. 


And Elizabeth Warren

7 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

 

The UK does no vetting of visitors leaving  the UK for the US. Screening is done by the US. B/F/M and J-visa checks are entirely done by the US. The UK does screen travelers, in that they record who is leaving. A bit like Laos when all the forum members do their border runs to keep staying in Thailand without a pesky visa. 

 

Which of those countries you list have no passport controls or ticket inspection. You seem to think they all do.

 

 

What's your point? No one said that the UK screens visitors leaving the UK  for the USA.  No one does that. The obligation is on the  host nation. The issue is  the ability of that host nation to access the information needed to properly screen visa applicants.  If a country refuses to share data, the US cannot  verify the visa applicant, let alone determine if the  person can be admitted as a  temporary visitor. Some countries do not verify the identity of passport applicants or  do not have security measures in place to prevent issuance of passports to unqualified applicants. The countries  the USA is restricting do not have  proper  vetting procedures in place and/or do not share reliable information with the USA and/or  are a source  of a large number of visa offenders or  high risk people.

 

You offer the UK as an example. Good. The UK most certainly shares information which includes; Biometrics, criminal history, watchlist notations, and visa histories. 

The US is  involved in the Five Country Joint Enrollment and Information-Sharing Project (FCC), EU PNR System, and INTERPOL data-sharing agreements. The US uses an interactive advanced passenger information system to keep track of travelers entering the country.  Some countries have  extensive data  sharing. For example. New Zealand offers its  'Secure Real Time Platform' (STRP), which allows the exchange of biometric and biographic data with other members of the Five Eyes network    As well as systematic data sharing, New Zealand also exchanges biometric and biographic information on an ad hoc basis. Data on refugees and immigrants, people with criminal histories or assumed identities and deportees are shared."

Many nations share reliable data with the USA See pictogram below.

 

 

 

 

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On 12/6/2025 at 2:37 PM, blaze master said:

 

In 1776 approx 80 percent of the population was white. 

Amazing how the Census Bureau was so advanced and sophisticated way back in 1776. I guess they used those airports that Trump once said the Colonialists secured from the Brits in 1776, and flew around counting people.

 

Do you think they got an accurate count of all the Iroquois, Algonquins and other native Americans in the 13 Colonies?

6 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

It's strange that people keep missing that word 'illegal' out of conversations?

I wonder why?

Strange that MAGAs keep missing the part of about Trump asking the DoJ how to deport USA Citizens, such as Somalis in Minnesota, or Rosey O'Donnell.

2 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Amazing how the Census Bureau was so advanced and sophisticated way back in 1776. I guess they used those airports that Trump once said the Colonialists secured from the Brits in 1776, and flew around counting people.

 

Do you think they got an accurate count of all the Iroquois, Algonquins and other native Americans in the 13 Colonies?

 

Do you think you could miss the point any more ? 

4 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Strange that MAGAs keep missing the part of about Trump asking the DoJ how to deport USA Citizens, such as Somalis in Minnesota, or Rosey O'Donnell.

 

Yes you care so much for Rosie you don't even know her name. 

 

 

17 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

We do know one thing.  Socialism sucks. 

 

No it doesn't. And your comment shows dlearly that you don'e even know what socialism / a mix of socialism and capitalism (present in many countries today means <e.g.Japan, Singapore, scandinavian counries, Australia, China> actually means. 

20 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Strange that MAGAs keep missing the part of about Trump asking the DoJ how to deport USA Citizens, such as Somalis in Minnesota, or Rosey O'Donnell.

 

Total nonsense.

 

Somali TPS holders are not U.S. citizens — ending TPS deports non-citizens who never should have stayed.

 

The Minnesota fraud ring stole $250 million in taxpayer money; going after criminals isn’t “deporting citizens.”

 

Rosie O’Donnell? A 30-year personal feud and a joke post. No DOJ memo, no legal mechanism, zero citizens deported. Pure trolling.

 

You’re conflating legal non-citizens with citizens and a celebrity spat with policy. That’s not “missing” anything; that’s you inventing a boogeyman because the actual policy (deporting illegals) is too popular to attack head-on.:coffee1:

On 12/7/2025 at 10:21 AM, KhunLA said:

Beside the title being BS, Euro origin white (if that's what whites are), are slowly becoming the minority (<49%), if trends continue vs other folks, as birth rates are lower than others; hispanic whites or 'brown' folks.   Not even counting the <10-20% (?) of the uncounted population, as being illegal aliens.

 

AI guesstimate ...

 

... "In the U.S., Hispanic women generally have the highest fertility rates, followed by Black women, with White and Asian/Pacific Islander groups having lower rates." ...

 

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You left out Muslims, and not to sound racist but they do have the highest birth rates in Africa, and some of the highest birth rates on the planet. That's the biggest issue I have with Muslim immigrants is the possibility of overpopulation. My second issue is the refusal to assimilate on the part of so many within the community. 

 

Therefore I propose a litmus test if a Muslim family wants to immigrate to Any Nation they have to have annual checkups before they're granted residency after a full decade. If they have a teenage daughter she has to prove that she's been in a two-piece bikini contest in front of at least a thousand men by the age of 18. And if they have Muslim sons they have to prove that they have no affiliation with any extremist madrasas or clerics. 

 

And I say all this as a Centrist Democrat. 

12 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

If it's such a good thing, why is Trump demanding shares in private companies or buying shares and reserving the right to overrule their decisions?

Absurd. You are now being informed that your reading comprehension is severely challenged. Go back and take another shot at reading it again.

7 minutes ago, novacova said:

Absurd. You are now being informed that your reading comprehension is severely challenged. Go back and take another shot at reading it again.

I am being informed by someone who doesn't back up his comments with evidence or reasoning. 

16 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

It's strange that people keep missing that word 'illegal' out of conversations?

I wonder why?

*Lying by omission

9 hours ago, Wingate said:

Amazing how the Census Bureau was so advanced and sophisticated way back in 1776. I guess they used those airports that Trump once said the Colonialists secured from the Brits in 1776, and flew around counting people.

 

Do you think they got an accurate count of all the Iroquois, Algonquins and other native Americans in the 13 Colonies?

 

 

 When the United States was established as a country in 1776, whites comprised roughly 80 percent of the population. 

 

https://isaconf.confex.com/isaconf/wc2018/webprogram/Paper105256.html

 

Here is another estimate saying the population was 60% white 1790

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1360204/us-white-population-linguistic-origin-state-revolutionary-period/

9 hours ago, Wingate said:

Strange that MAGAs keep missing the part of about Trump asking the DoJ how to deport USA Citizens, such as Somalis in Minnesota, or Rosey O'Donnell.

Rosey O'Donnell self-deported.  

Why is it OK for other countries to limit immigration but not western nations?  Why does Europe and the US have to accept masses of people with little say in the matter?  Notice it isn't an open door in Thailand.  And heck they don't even offer free services to immigrants.  

 

Why aren't you pro immigrant folks more down on China and Japan and Thailand and all the other nations that do not allow mass influx of people changing the character of their nation?

12 hours ago, nattaya09 said:

*Lying by omission

Well that's one way of putting I suppose, but another way would be saying its deceptive or fraudulent, plenty of other words could be used!:smile:

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