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I’ve been on the O visa with my child studying in Thailand for years. But now apparently our school falls into another area, and they require the child’s birth certificate certified. It’s never been an issue before at all, we have the original cerificate, but now suddenly it means I cannot get my o visa renewed apparently. The weird thing the cerificate is enough to renew

my child’s visa (I mean wtf ?!)

 

 

i have hurriedly tried to look at British embassy in Bangkok to see how I can make appointment to get it certified, but good luck with navigating around that. 
 

my visa runs out in days, so what am I supposed to do here ? School have told me I can go back to UK and get the visa from there, but how is that even a thing around Christmas with my child back at school in January. And what documents will they require in the UK? 

 

left me in a mess here because of this issue of certification 

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Who wants the child's birth certificate certified ...... Immigration?
The child was born in the UK ............. UK national or dual Citizenship?
Married to a Thai?

 

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Immigration want birth certificate certified.

 

child is British born in the UK, so without his certification then it effects my o visa 

3 hours ago, Bally Jaggers said:

I’ve been on the O visa with my child studying in Thailand for years. But now apparently our school falls into another area, and they require the child’s birth certificate certified...

 

You seem to be saying that the school where your child is studying has asked you for a certified birth certificate of your child in order to be able to prepare a new application for a one-year extension of stay for you for the reason of living in Thailand with your son of UK nationality.

 

This is puzzling. The original birth certificate certifies the birth of your child. What is the certification of the certificate supposed to certify?

 

Can the school show you an example of such certified birth certificate used for the application for another parent?

 

I suspect that there is some miscommunication here somewhere. I suggest that you go to the immigration office yourself to find out exactly what they want.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

3 hours ago, Bally Jaggers said:

I’ve been on the O visa with my child studying in Thailand for years. But now apparently our school falls into another area, and they require the child’s birth certificate certified...

 

You seem to be saying that the school where your child is studying has asked you for a certified birth certificate of your child in order to be able to prepare a new application for a one-year extension of stay for you for the reason of living in Thailand with your son of UK nationality.

 

This is puzzling. The original birth certificate certifies the birth of your child. What is the certification of the certificate supposed to certify?

 

Can the school show you an example of such certified birth certificate used for the application for another parent?

 

I suspect that there is some miscommunication here somewhere. I suggest that you go to the immigration office yourself to find out exactly what they want.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

It needs to be apostilled by the foreign office in London, then verified by the Thai Embassy in  London, then translated and the translation verified by the MFA in Bangkok. It can be done by mail, but not quickly.

2 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

It needs to be apostilled by the foreign office in London, then verified by the Thai Embassy in  London, then translated and the translation verified by the MFA in Bangkok. It can be done by mail, but not quickly.

That is for authenticating and legalising a foreign document, not a 'certification' which Immigration has requested.
As @Maestro stated, there appears to be a miscommunication of exactly what Immigration require.

 

@Bally Jaggers

The Embassy cannot certify an original document. They can only copy it and certify the copy as being a true copy of the original.
When you sign documents for Immigration, you are simply testifying them to be a true copy of the original.

The certified copy can then be translated into Thai and legalised by the legalisation division of the MFA who attach an apostle.
That's a similar procedure you would go through to obtain an affidavit of freedom to marry a Thai.

 

However, if Immigration want the birth certificate authenticating as being genuine and legalising, that's a different matter.
Only the legalisation department of the FCDO in Milton Keynes can authenticate UK birth, death and marriage certificates as being original.
The authenticated document is then sent to the Thai Embassy in the UK who certify the FCDO's signature.
In Thailand, this is then translated to Thai and legalised by the legalisation division of the MFA.

It then becomes an authenticated and legalised document to be accepted as such by Thai authorities, as mention by @cjinchiangrai

 

Hopefully Immigration would be satisfied with an Embassy certified copy, translated and legalised by the MFA.
You need to confirm exactly what they want.

 

Understand your Non O visa expired years ago, but you have Non Immigrant status. You extend your temporary permission of stay each year based on a child in Thai educated.

Another hard-earned lesson is to always apply 30 days early to deal with any matters that may arise.

 

 

You don't have much time, so I would recommend to try to find another Immigration Office to try to see if they are less strict. Or go to a visa agent or consult a visa lawyer.

 

Also get clear on exactly what IO needs, like an example of what a certified BC actually is or how it can be certified. You said you have the original, and afaik, an original BC is already certified. So find out what they are actually seeking. Certification from who or what?

From reading this forum I know that generally, an immigration official does not ask for a certified original document but for a certified copy of the original document, and with "certified" means signed by the applicant for the extension of stay or the person to whom the original was issued. However, I don't want to guess or speculate what the official said to the representative of the school in this particular case, more so since it is fairly easy for the OP to find out what exactly is needed by contacting the school directly.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

On 12/8/2025 at 3:12 PM, Bally Jaggers said:

I’ve been on the O visa with my child studying in Thailand for years. But now apparently our school falls into another area, and they require the child’s birth certificate certified. It’s never been an issue before at all, we have the original cerificate, but now suddenly it means I cannot get my o visa renewed apparently. The weird thing the cerificate is enough to renew

my child’s visa (I mean wtf ?!)

 

 

i have hurriedly tried to look at British embassy in Bangkok to see how I can make appointment to get it certified, but good luck with navigating around that. 
 

my visa runs out in days, so what am I supposed to do here ? School have told me I can go back to UK and get the visa from there, but how is that even a thing around Christmas with my child back at school in January. And what documents will they require in the UK? 

 

left me in a mess here because of this issue of certification 

 

On 12/8/2025 at 10:41 PM, Liquorice said:

That is for authenticating and legalising a foreign document, not a 'certification' which Immigration has requested.
As @Maestro stated, there appears to be a miscommunication of exactly what Immigration require.

 

@Bally Jaggers

The Embassy cannot certify an original document. They can only copy it and certify the copy as being a true copy of the original.
When you sign documents for Immigration, you are simply testifying them to be a true copy of the original.

The certified copy can then be translated into Thai and legalised by the legalisation division of the MFA who attach an apostle.
That's a similar procedure you would go through to obtain an affidavit of freedom to marry a Thai.

 

However, if Immigration want the birth certificate authenticating as being genuine and legalising, that's a different matter.
Only the legalisation department of the FCDO in Milton Keynes can authenticate UK birth, death and marriage certificates as being original.
The authenticated document is then sent to the Thai Embassy in the UK who certify the FCDO's signature.
In Thailand, this is then translated to Thai and legalised by the legalisation division of the MFA.

It then becomes an authenticated and legalised document to be accepted as such by Thai authorities, as mention by @cjinchiangrai

 

Hopefully Immigration would be satisfied with an Embassy certified copy, translated and legalised by the MFA.
You need to confirm exactly what they want.

 

Understand your Non O visa expired years ago, but you have Non Immigrant status. You extend your temporary permission of stay each year based on a child in Thai educated.

Another hard-earned lesson is to always apply 30 days early to deal with any matters that may arise.

 

 

I am a bit puzzled why a certification of a certificate is required, as the cert. is in Thai I presume? Liquorice is correct about what the embassy can and cannot issue, but having been there done that and got the T shirt, certification as a true copy by the British Embassy is a complete waste of time and money. I did all that and got the British Birth Cert. as well as the Thai certification as a True Copy, it costs a bit, but as far as Thailand and immigration go, they do not want to know, They only want the original Thai docs. Whatever the Brits or whoever's embassy gives you anything else, the Thais won't even look at it, save your money.

2 hours ago, Vlada Floric said:

I am a bit puzzled why a certification of a certificate is required, as the cert. is in Thai I presume?

It's a British birth certificate in English.

 

On 12/8/2025 at 6:36 PM, Maestro said:

This is puzzling. The original birth certificate certifies the birth of your child. What is the certification of the certificate supposed to certify?

It needs to be legalised as a genuine document. I had to do this with my UK marriage certificate. Once it is legalised/Apostilled you then have to get it translated and then get MFA to confirm the translation is correct

34 minutes ago, Jaggg88 said:

It needs to be legalised as a genuine document. I had to do this with my UK marriage certificate...

 

And what was your experience with getting a childs foreign birth certificate legalised?

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

1 hour ago, Maestro said:

 

And what was your experience with getting a childs foreign birth certificate legalised?

I did my birth certificate (needed for the yellow book), and my son's, but have never needed it. Immigration wanted my marriage legalisation and translation every year for my extension. It is the same process whether it is a birth certificate, a marriage certificate, Uni degree certificate. It is all the same. Now you know what a legalised official document is.

11 minutes ago, Jaggg88 said:

Now you know what a legalised official document is.

Oh no we do not! 

7 hours ago, Vlada Floric said:

They only want the original Thai docs.

Why should there be any such documents for a UK birth? 

Mai i am stupid.

But the child has to be Thai and must be in the thai System for years.?!

I think there could be no other way, that you could stay for years.?

8 minutes ago, Somrak said:

Mai i am stupid. But the child has to be Thai and must be in the thai System.?!

Child does not need to be Thai. 

If non Thai child child attending school a non Thai parent can obtain visa + extension based on that. 

9 minutes ago, Somrak said:

Mai i am stupid.

But the child has to be Thai and must be in the thai System for years.?!

I think there could be no other way, that you could stay for years.?

Dependant of an alien child in Thai education.
Section 2.11 Immigration order 327/2557.

On 12/12/2025 at 4:12 PM, Unamerican said:

Why should there be any such documents for a UK birth? 

 

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