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Trump’s new doctrine: ready or not, Europe is on its own

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As Washington retreats militarily from Europe, it will  try to exert financial power, diplomatic pressure, export controls, trade measures and secondary sanctions to influence  Europe.  Lax enforcement or abolishment of digital and green rules will be demanded of the EU – as US commerce secretary Howard Lutnick did last month.

 

 Thus less military protection for Europe whilst at the same time an increase in economic pressure on Europe,

 

To counter the US, Europe must continue its increase in defence investment whilst making it clear that Washington's attempts at economic coercion will face countermeasures such as disowning the  EU-US trade deal and triggering its powerful “anti-coercion instrument”. Only a firm response will register in Washington.

 

Trump’s new doctrine confirms it. Ready or not, Europe is on its own

 

 

Putin: "with a little help from my friend"! :smile:

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Europe should fight back and do everything in its power to find substitute markets for the US, and to show America that it's becoming less relevant by the day.

 

American exceptionalism must end, its beyond ridiculous, and considering how far the US has declined, Tariff Don's brutish lack of understanding of geopolitics, combined with his dangerous level of arrogance, and total misinterpretation of how globalization works, are greatly contributing to that decline, and the diminisment of US influence. 

 

 

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What I wish Trump was doing, and what I fear he is doing are two different things. The pullback in Europe makes sense. Europe needs to be a defensive force on its own, with its own defense industries, strategic stances, deployment plans, etc. The US can no longer shoulder even a plurality of the cost. The bases need to be closed down, the troops brought home, and investments curtailed. Instead, costs, infrastructure, treaty alignments, forward positioning, economic investment, etc. should shift to East Asia. The Europeans have made clear they will do nothing about China. In fact, they want to facilitate even more trade and Chinese influence into their economies. The US needs to center its commitment in the Philippines and Japan. South Korea and Taiwan are already murky and have strong forces within leaning towards China. Australia and New Zealand will need to decide on their own which way they want to go. I fear, however, Trump has no intention of building on a foundation in East Asia that already exists. I think, as I kept saying even a year before the election that he was going to do a 180 on China. I still think he will. He'll surrender, the dollar will collapse, and everybody will run as fast as possible to China, even Mexico.

11 minutes ago, John Drake said:

What I wish Trump was doing, and what I fear he is doing are two different things. The pullback in Europe makes sense. Europe needs to be a defensive force on its own, with its own defense industries, strategic stances, deployment plans, etc. The US can no longer shoulder even a plurality of the cost. The bases need to be closed down, the troops brought home, and investments curtailed. Instead, costs, infrastructure, treaty alignments, forward positioning, economic investment, etc. should shift to East Asia. The Europeans have made clear they will do nothing about China. In fact, they want to facilitate even more trade and Chinese influence into their economies. The US needs to center its commitment in the Philippines and Japan. South Korea and Taiwan are already murky and have strong forces within leaning towards China. Australia and New Zealand will need to decide on their own which way they want to go. I fear, however, Trump has no intention of building on a foundation in East Asia that already exists. I think, as I kept saying even a year before the election that he was going to do a 180 on China. I still think he will. He'll surrender, the dollar will collapse, and everybody will run as fast as possible to China, even Mexico.

When he figures out that the US built Sattahip he should seize it and declare it US terrirory like Britain did with Gibraltar. Take U-Taupo as well.  

 

Trump’s new doctrine: ready or not, Europe is on its own

 

Good!  But don't believe it for a split second.  A total of $800 Billion dollars of the Pentagon budget is allocated for the Ukraine "war" over the next two years.  Trump's bluffing.  The US will stay in the mix.  The billionaire class knows that war equals money.  There are no profits to peace. War always rules for the elites. Send the useless eaters to the front and then make bank and count the stacks of money.  $$$Cha-Ching$$$.  That's the only music that Trump knows how to sing.

he's isolating the US from all its allies in order to please Putin, he's so obsessed with Putin/Russia wanting to bring them into the international community as he keeps claiming that Russia its a huge market for the USA, wonder what does Russia has that's so special besides oil, gas, crooks and the novichok what else, again people have to wonder what Putin has on him

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11 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

people have to wonder what Putin has on him

People only have to wonder what  Netanyahu  has on him.

6 minutes ago, johng said:

People only have to wonder what  Netanyahu  has on him.

both then

Good idea, time for the European slackers to anti up and stop depending on the good citizens of the United States to protect them. This has been going on since the end of WW2 when the "greatest generation" helped liberate Europe from the Nazis. The Europeans need to stop spending on their left wing social programs and green agenda and use that money for their military. Most of the UK is a basket case with the influx of Moslem's but there must be some good folks in the UK that care about the sovereignty of their country.  

23 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Good idea, time for the European slackers to anti up and stop depending on the good citizens of the United States to protect them. This has been going on since the end of WW2 when the "greatest generation" helped liberate Europe from the Nazis. The Europeans need to stop spending on their left wing social programs and green agenda and use that money for their military. Most of the UK is a basket case with the influx of Moslem's but there must be some good folks in the UK that care about the sovereignty of their country.  

 

"Guns or butter" let the sovereign nations of Europe have national referenda on what the people want. I'll vote butter or more likely a low fat olive oil based margerine like spread. 

5 minutes ago, Screaming said:

the "greatest generation" helped liberate Europe from the Nazis.

Actually that would be the Russians.

 

5 minutes ago, Screaming said:

The Europeans need to stop spending on their left wing social programs and green agenda

Ageed 100 percent.

 

6 minutes ago, Screaming said:

and use that money for their military.

Disagree 100 percent..spend money on constructive things not destructive things..affordable housing,cheap energy,jobs that pay a living wage,support for farmers so we have things to eat

(quite important)  reduce government overreach in every aspect  far too much regulation in everything   no to digital ID  and no to CBDC

 

10 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Most of the UK is a basket case

Again agree  but not just because of the Moslems..total great replacement theory (conspiracy not) 

48 minutes ago, Screaming said:

The Europeans need to stop spending on their left wing social programs and green agenda and use that money for their military.

 

Europeans can spend where they think best, whether its China made solar panels or windmills or China made electric cars. They will go in the direction they think best for themselves. I certainly don't oppose that. I just don't want to support, financially or economically, or commit to them as a political entity when they are so strongly ensnared in the economy of the US's greatest enemy, China. France and Germany have already indicated they want to be offloaders of Chinese exports. Let them do what they want.

3 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Europeans can spend where they think best, whether its China made solar panels or windmills or China made electric cars. They will go in the direction they think best for themselves. I certainly don't oppose that. I just don't want to support, financially or economically, or commit to them as a political entity when they are so strongly ensnared in the economy of the US's greatest enemy, China. France and Germany have already indicated they want to be offloaders of Chinese exports. Let them do what they want.

Probably written on a Chinese device communcated over a Chinese delivered telecomms network in a house filled with Chinese stuff. You first on the boycott, bro. 

11 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Europeans can spend where they think best, whether its China made solar panels or windmills or China made electric cars. They will go in the direction they think best for themselves. I certainly don't oppose that. I just don't want to support, financially or economically, or commit to them as a political entity when they are so strongly ensnared in the economy of the US's greatest enemy, China. France and Germany have already indicated they want to be offloaders of Chinese exports. Let them do what they want.

It's not really true. Europe is actually quite worried about China destroying its industry. The issue is that, being under an economic war by Trump, the only way to lessen that burden is to increase trade with other countries, including China.

 

I also think that European defense should be more independent and self-sufficient. However, it's absolutely impossible to do that in two years, and Trump knows it. He's just helping his friend Putin, as usual.

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Royal Air Force station in North Yorkshire, England, that serves as a joint UK/US intelligence and communications site. Operated primarily by the US's National Security Agency (NSA) and the UK's GCHQ, it is a significant signals intelligence (SIGINT) hub with large satellite dishes (known as "golf balls") and plays a key role in the intelligence capabilities of both nations and the Five Eyes alliance. The base was established in 1954 during the Cold War and has been central to US and UK intelligence-gathering efforts, though its secrecy has led to ongoing controversy and calls for greater transparency. 
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2 hours ago, connda said:

Trump’s new doctrine: ready or not, Europe is on its own

 

Good!  But don't believe it for a split second.  A total of $800 Billion dollars of the Pentagon budget is allocated for the Ukraine "war" over the next two years.  Trump's bluffing.  The US will stay in the mix.  The billionaire class knows that war equals money.  There are no profits to peace. War always rules for the elites. Send the useless eaters to the front and then make bank and count the stacks of money.  $$$Cha-Ching$$$.  That's the only music that Trump knows how to sing.

That and trump and his (movement) are temporary he’s allready on the way out politically and biologically.we will be back with hopefully safe guards in place to protect our democracy from more wannabe despots in the future.In my view we still need to be the arsenal of democracy not in the pockets of the totalitarians as unfortunately trump seems to be.

The pentagon is like an oil tanker ,to change corse it would take years ,so anything trumps says is ignored.

 

the biggest US base is being built in Romania as we speak on putins doorstep

10 hours ago, johng said:

Actually that would be the Russians.

 

Commies claim that. But it doesn't stack up. For a start, when it comes to the USSR, it was Belarusans and Ukrainians who did all the dying on behalf of the Russians. And when it comes to "Liberation"; I suspect the populations of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechoslavakia, Hungary, and East Germany felt all that liberated, all 67 million of them (estimated 1945 population). Their reward for saying goodbye to the Nazis was extra judicial killings, mass rape and the Gulag.

 

On the contrary, US lead Western forces truely liberated over 200 million people in the West.

 

Soviet advances, usually at the point of a NKVD party official at the back, were only possible because Lend-Lease prevented a complete rout of Soviet forces early in the war.  When the Soviets got to Berlin, it wasn't in Russian trucks, it was mostly in American made Fords and Packards. When Soviet troops went to sleep at night with full bellies, it was bellies filled with American Spam. All made possible by those Anglo-American Arctic convoys who endured the worst to keep Stalin in the war.

 

People who delighted in listening to Radio Moscow in the 70s and 80s are always the first to big up the Russian contributtion to the War, and to denigrate, where possible, the Western Forces representing the Free World.

 

People say "but so many Soviet died". Yes they did, largely because of the stupidity of their leaders, after Stalin had most of the competant officers killed off. The Soviet leadership were profligate with the lives of their people, because they really didn't care about individuals. Because they were communist.

 

On the contrary, Churchill showed on numerous occasions his solidarity with the sufferings of ordinary people. But communists don't understand that, and will always resort to "Yeah, but Russia...." to defend their vacuous genocidal ideology.

13 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Europe should fight back and do everything in its power to find substitute markets for the US, and to show America that it's becoming less relevant by the day.

 

American exceptionalism must end, its beyond ridiculous, and considering how far the US has declined, Tariff Don's brutish lack of understanding of geopolitics, combined with his dangerous level of arrogance, and total misinterpretation of how globalization works, are greatly contributing to that decline, and the diminisment of US influence. 

 

 

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Look at that, he hates Donald Trump so much he would destroy his own country lol. 

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