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Populists Left and Right Say America Is Failing

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People need to take a deep breath and ignore the rhetorical from the pundits and political class. 

 

https://reason.com/2025/12/04/the-horseshoe-of-doom-populists-left-and-right-say-america-is-failing-the-facts-dont/

 

The Horseshoe of Doom: Populists Left and Right Say America Is Failing. The Facts Don't.

 

When voters believe they're living through an economic apocalypse, they're willing to embrace the very policies that would create one.

 

Spend five minutes listening to the American left's most theatrical tribunes—Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.), or Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.)—and you'll probably hear tales of a country on the verge of collapse, crushed by a rigged system that can be fixed only through a radical redesign of government. Then spend five minutes with the New Right—including Vice President J.D. Vance, Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.), and any number of nostalgists yearning to restore an idealized 1950s America—and you'll hear much the same.

 

The American experiment is failing, they say. The economy is broken. Our society is in decay. Only sweeping power exercised by government can save us. For two camps that claim to despise one another, their worldviews are actually quite aligned.

 

Progressive Liberalism has destroyed America, they got what they wanted, chaos and anarchy. If we don't purge them from society, we are doomed!

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8 hours ago, TedG said:

People need to take a deep breath and ignore the rhetorical from the pundits and political class. 

 

https://reason.com/2025/12/04/the-horseshoe-of-doom-populists-left-and-right-say-america-is-failing-the-facts-dont/

 

The Horseshoe of Doom: Populists Left and Right Say America Is Failing. The Facts Don't.

 

When voters believe they're living through an economic apocalypse, they're willing to embrace the very policies that would create one.

 

Spend five minutes listening to the American left's most theatrical tribunes—Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.), or Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.)—and you'll probably hear tales of a country on the verge of collapse, crushed by a rigged system that can be fixed only through a radical redesign of government. Then spend five minutes with the New Right—including Vice President J.D. Vance, Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.), and any number of nostalgists yearning to restore an idealized 1950s America—and you'll hear much the same.

 

The American experiment is failing, they say. The economy is broken. Our society is in decay. Only sweeping power exercised by government can save us. For two camps that claim to despise one another, their worldviews are actually quite aligned.

 

I like your thread , well said.

Systemic progressivism welcomes,Terrorists, Serial criminals,Soft on Crime initiatives,no borders, no assimilation to a countries founding values, DEI initiatives. I had/have no illusions of defeating the violent far lefts attempts  at extremes in  4 years.

Whats most disturbing is their  judicial activism while heading up courts.

I like your thread , well said

 

 

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10 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

Progressive Liberalism has destroyed America, they got what they wanted, chaos and anarchy. If we don't purge them from society, we are doomed!

Progressives do make a mess of everything they touch. 

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4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You have to give trump credit for taking care of the border mess Biden left him. DEI is on it's way out. I'd say Trump has done a great job.

The tools to handle the border were created, trump killed it so he could have his ugly theater of masked thugs grabbing people off the streets for the titillation of his base.Personally in the case of DEI im on board with a hand up not a hand out and in my view that’s just more theater by the troll in chief for the titillation of the magga base……just like having aircraft carriers chasing outboard motor boats instead of investing the funds in strengthening our efforts at the points of entry.he is what he is a troll and a piss poor excuse for an American president.

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

Please, tell how Trump is corrupt our democracy.  

The post directly above is one example 

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

BTW..didn't many people on left claim if Trump was elected there would be no more elections? 

 

Yeah, sorry to bring up the dirty "C" word again ...

But there is a conspiracy floating around that The Don will be ... drum roll .... The Last President based on a book that was written in 1896. 

 

 

10 minutes ago, TedG said:

Please, tell how Trump is corrupt our democracy.  

2 examples:

"Federal law requires the Defense Department to send execute orders to the House and Senate Armed Services Committees within 15 days of the defense secretary issuing the orders, but officials have failed to do so in the case of the boat strikes. The law also mandates that if the top Republicans or Democrats on the committees were to specifically request such an order, the department would have 30 days to comply, another timeline that the Trump administration has ignored."

Populists Left and Right Say America Is Failing

 

I left almost 19 years ago - Sometimes I think I care, then I stop, think about it......and no - I really don't care.  It can go to hell in a hand-basket.  So be it.  Let the people still there deal with it.

12 hours ago, TedG said:

People need to take a deep breath and ignore the rhetorical from the pundits and political class. 

 

No one knows where things are headed, if things will get better or worse.

There are too many complex variables involved and too many "curveballs" ...

 

 

 

A post with a trolling neologism to belittle or mock individuals with differing political views and the replies have been removed.

 

Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings, or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.

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29 minutes ago, Peabody said:

2 examples:

"Federal law requires the Defense Department to send execute orders to the House and Senate Armed Services Committees within 15 days of the defense secretary issuing the orders, but officials have failed to do so in the case of the boat strikes. The law also mandates that if the top Republicans or Democrats on the committees were to specifically request such an order, the department would have 30 days to comply, another timeline that the Trump administration has ignored."


 

Trump is the only administration that was ignored federal law?  That’s one weak example.

 

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40 minutes ago, Tug said:

The tools to handle the border were created, trump killed it so he could have his ugly theater of masked thugs grabbing people off the streets for the titillation of his base.Personally in the case of DEI im on board with a hand up not a hand out and in my view that’s just more theater by the troll in chief for the titillation of the magga base……just like having aircraft carriers chasing outboard motor boats instead of investing the funds in strengthening our efforts at the points of entry.he is what he is a troll and a piss poor excuse for an American president.

What tools did Trump kill?  Got it, you see 100 percent against enforcement of immigration laws.  I’ll put you on the open boarders camp.

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42 minutes ago, Tug said:

just like having aircraft carriers chasing outboard motor boats instead of investing the funds in strengthening our efforts at the points of entry.he is what he is a troll and a piss poor excuse for an American president.

Investing what funds where?

13 hours ago, TedG said:

People need to take a deep breath and ignore the rhetorical from the pundits and political class. 

 

https://reason.com/2025/12/04/the-horseshoe-of-doom-populists-left-and-right-say-america-is-failing-the-facts-dont/

 

The Horseshoe of Doom: Populists Left and Right Say America Is Failing. The Facts Don't.

 

When voters believe they're living through an economic apocalypse, they're willing to embrace the very policies that would create one.

 

Spend five minutes listening to the American left's most theatrical tribunes—Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.), or Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.)—and you'll probably hear tales of a country on the verge of collapse, crushed by a rigged system that can be fixed only through a radical redesign of government. Then spend five minutes with the New Right—including Vice President J.D. Vance, Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.), and any number of nostalgists yearning to restore an idealized 1950s America—and you'll hear much the same.

 

The American experiment is failing, they say. The economy is broken. Our society is in decay. Only sweeping power exercised by government can save us. For two camps that claim to despise one another, their worldviews are actually quite aligned.

 

Not failing, being destroyed by a sociopath.

13 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

Progressive Liberalism has destroyed America, they got what they wanted, chaos and anarchy. If we don't purge them from society, we are doomed!

Last time I went it all seemed OK to me .

Did you miss a hot meal recently?

Thought not. 

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