If this doesn't act as a wake up call to all the Royalist worshiping sheeple in UK I don't know what will.

This ridiculous worship of a family who are just the top end of the super rich is nauseating.

Future 'King' William has just annexed a vast tract of public land surrounding his 'yet another' massive palatial home. Just like that. Taken. No discussion. Just theft.

Denying it to the ordinary people who have a right to our common land. 

 

Frankly whilst this so called Democracy grants life born rights to both them, and the House of Lords, An unelected body who have ultimate power to block bills passed by our elected representatives, we are not by any means a Democracy. 

 

We see horrors taking place in US right now with the hijacking of their Democracy but; it's very much 'pot calling the kettle black. At least US has some hope of deposing their present malign President through their right to vote.

We in UK need to get rid of the house of Lords and the 'Royal family' should be vastly disempowered and unfunded.

Figurehead ? OK. Other European countries have managed it peacefully and gracefully.

So must we if we are to join the real world.

It's not like they are going to starve is it? They are super hugely massively rich in their own right.

Andrew is a depraved jaded entitled worthless monster. He was simply too arrogant and monumentally thick to bother to cover his filthy nature.

They are all privileged beyond belief and reality though.

The whole edifice is rotten and regressive. Yet people still worship them, bow to them, curtsy! They are just people. Rich indeed but just people. They eat, <deleted> and have smelly armpits just like everyone else. Not Gods. 

 

12 minutes ago, Chutney said:

If this doesn't act as a wake up call to all the Royalist worshiping sheeple in UK I don't know what will.

This ridiculous worship of a family who are just the top end of the super rich is nauseating.

Future 'King' William has just annexed a vast tract of public land surrounding his 'yet another' massive palatial home. Just like that. Taken. No discussion. Just theft.

Denying it to the ordinary people who have a right to our common land. 

 

Frankly whilst this so called Democracy grants life born rights to both them, and the House of Lords, An unelected body who have ultimate power to block bills passed by our elected representatives, we are not by any means a Democracy. 

 

We see horrors taking place in US right now with the hijacking of their Democracy but; it's very much 'pot calling the kettle black. At least US has some hope of deposing their present malign President through their right to vote.

We in UK need to get rid of the house of Lords and the 'Royal family' should be vastly disempowered and unfunded.

Figurehead ? OK. Other European countries have managed it peacefully and gracefully.

So must we if we are to join the real world.

It's not like they are going to starve is it? They are super hugely massively rich in their own right.

Andrew is a depraved jaded entitled worthless monster. He was simply too arrogant and monumentally thick to bother to cover his filthy nature.

They are all privileged beyond belief and reality though.

The whole edifice is rotten and regressive. Yet people still worship them, bow to them, curtsy! They are just people. Rich indeed but just people. They eat, <deleted> and have smelly armpits just like everyone else. Not Gods. 

 

<Deleted> was merely referring to a bodily function which every creature on this earth must do to eliminate waste...often brown and of foul odour *Is that more acceptable?*

17 minutes ago, Chutney said:

Rich indeed but just people. They eat, <deleted> and have smelly armpits just like everyone else. Not Gods. 

 

It's because of a strong subconscious DESIRE to BE royalty. 

 

A lot of people fantasize about being royalty and live out their fantasies vicariously through obsessing over them. 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Chutney said:

Future 'King' William has just annexed a vast tract of public land surrounding his 'yet another' massive palatial home. Just like that. Taken. No discussion. Just theft.

 

Trump started demolishing federal/national property. No discussion. Just vandalism.

 

Nobody wants to be royalty more than him.

23 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

It's because of a strong subconscious DESIRE to BE royalty. 

 

A lot of people fantasize about being royalty and live out their fantasies vicariously through obsessing over them. 

 

 

True and I guess it's much the same in US respectively. People aspire to the riches enjoyed by Trump, Epstein etc. However it's never going to happen is it?

Like Celebrity worship is another branch of that. Stockholm syndrome almost.

My ex daughter in law was/is an embarrassing celeb worshiper/Royalty mega fan.

She'd waste an absolute fortune they could ill afford buying tickets with VIP status so she could line up and be allowed a quick photo with the 'Star'.

She dragged the kids a whole day ( expensive) train journey to London to stand for hours in a crowd of thousands to get a glimpse of the Royals passing by in a carriage. She said it was a momentous occasion that the children were priveledged to be 'part of'!!

She talks about the Royals and celebs like she knows them personally. It's so cringe and she is actually a 'very' intelligent young woman. 

9 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Trump started demolishing federal/national property. No discussion. Just vandalism.

 

Nobody wants to be royalty more than him.

Yes indeed. He clearly loved all the pomp and circumstance when he was given the big state visit. I guess no matter how many billions he has it's the one thing he can't buy....but really it's just the same. Wealth, power, untouchability. Only our lot have had it for centuries. Probably why he's covering everything in tacky gold leaf and destroying actual US cultural architecture to build a 'ballroom'. Yet people struggling, poor, no healthcare still support him whilst he squanders their money.

3 minutes ago, Chutney said:

She talks about the Royals and celebs like she knows them personally. It's so cringe and she is actually a 'very' intelligent young woman. 

 

My sister in law is like that.

And also worships brands - Gucci, etc ...

But these types of people are shallow and are not able to develop a decent connection with normal people in front of them due to excessive obsession with status and celebreties.

It's completely stupid and misguided.

 

 

13 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

My sister in law is like that.

And also worships brands - Gucci, etc ...

But these types of people are shallow and are not able to develop a decent connection with normal people in front of them due to excessive obsession with status and celebreties.

It's completely stupid and misguided.

 

 

I dunno as to that. My ex DIL is genuinely really intelligent and is a very popular and likeable person. She's got so much going for her but this lunatic 'worship' is so needy and demeaning. I just don't get it.

I don't know anybody in the Uk who worships the royal family I thought it was just  a "southerner " thing .   

1 hour ago, Chutney said:

At least US has some hope of deposing their present malign President through their right to vote.

They also have the same hope of re-electing him or at least someone similar

 

                       True the UK royal family is over bloated these days and a bit of serious pruning would be in order, but as far as the monarch goes I'm  not opposed.   They have little power as head of state and what's more, they keep the position firmly out of reach of the likes of Blair etc who would no doubt love to be president  so as far as I am concerned leave them to it.

                    The late Queen was exemplary , Charles was always going to be a disaster even his mother knew that, if she could have hung on a bit longer she would have outlived him I think she tried.  I guess William will be a lot better.  

                      Having said all that  "| President Nigel Farage"|  has a certain ring to it , I would vote for him and I think the majority of the electorate would too,  we'll get a better Indication when he wins the next election.

26 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

My sister in law is like that.

And also worships brands - Gucci, etc ...

But these types of people are shallow and are not able to develop a decent connection with normal people in front of them due to excessive obsession with status and celebreties.

It's completely stupid and misguided.

 

 

Does she obsess over "love island"  and other such rubbish ?  It really is truly pathetic

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1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Trump started demolishing federal/national property. No discussion. Just vandalism.

 

Nobody wants to be royalty more than him.

 

I see you decided to be the turd in the punch bowl today.

 

Bravo.

1 hour ago, still kicking said:

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With Trumps track record, dubious behaviour , the rape trial where he was found guilty, and all his on record unbridled remarks about women as sex objects; is anyone remotely surprised that he is in this up to his neck?

However with his money, power, gall and protected position as President he will avoid accountability.

Andrew on the other hand is a very very stupid person. Even the Royal family with their power and influence have had to cut him loose.

I doubt those who are not UK citizens realise how very extraordinary it is that he has been so thoroughly stripped of every privilege which their birth usually  guarantees protection from any retribution, however bad. Even king Edward V111 was not so thrown to the dogs and he was a Nazi sympathiser and traitor!

What we are seeing regarding Andrew is awful but it's only the tip of the iceberg and they, the Royal family machine know far more. It must be truly unspeakable that they have done this. 

Trump and his handlers will do anything to protect him whilst he remains in power and the figurehead. Even warmongering so he can shut down the whole process of government as an 'emergency'. Whole countries are in danger. If he can start a war he's safe. All that to prevent him ever being brought to book. He intends to hold on to that power until he dies.

29 minutes ago, Chutney said:

With Trumps track record, dubious behaviour , the rape trial where he was found guilty, and all his on record unbridled

Trump was never found guilty of anything.  It was a civil trial. 

13 minutes ago, TedG said:

Trump was never found guilty of anything.  It was a civil trial. 

Still a trial. Still found guilty. It's on record. He had to pay 5 million. "Judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan,said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were “substantially true”. Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll."

5 minutes ago, Chutney said:

Still a trial. Still found guilty. It's on record. He had to pay 5 million. "Judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan,said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were “substantially true”. Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll."

This was a he-said-she-said case.  There was zero evidence of rape. 

19 minutes ago, TedG said:

This was a he-said-she-said case.  There was zero evidence of rape. 

You are entitled to your opinion of course but 5 million says different. You don't get made in law to pay that amount lightly or easily. Despite being a person of almost infinite power, with the funds to pay lawyers at that level, he lost that case.

Not wishing to get personal, and no offense meant: If you are a legal professional then I understand your approach.

However do you genuinely believe he is entirely innocent?

22 hours ago, Chutney said:

You are entitled to your opinion of course but 5 million says different. You don't get made in law to pay that amount lightly or easily. Despite being a person of almost infinite power, with the funds to pay lawyers at that level, he lost that case.

Not wishing to get personal, and no offense meant: If you are a legal professional then I understand your approach.

However do you genuinely believe he is entirely innocent?

Did the police ever investigate? 

16 minutes ago, TedG said:

Did the police ever investigate? 

Thanks for the response. In truth I can't remember. It was a long and complex case. I'll certainly check the detail but not tonight because it's christmas added to which I'm moving Condo tomorrow so having a packing headache. Merry christmas to you in the meanwhile.