December 27, 2025Dec 27 Popular Post I have gotten lots of usefull info here, so I wil (hopefully) give some actual experience back. Just received my "under consideration" stamp, so I will list which documents are needed. Do note I went with an agent (not one of those visa agents, but an immigration lawyer at the law office I also use to do all my company work and accounting). A. Documents needed from me 1. Original passport (with visa stamp or the print-out of the E-visa) 2. Scanned TDAC 3. Three (3) photos of applicant size 4x6 cm. only look straight, no hat and sunglasses updated not more than six months (white background) 4. Scanned update receipt of Residency Notification (TM.30) 5. Original marriage certificate ( Kor.Ror.3 ) 6. Original family registration ( Kor.Ror. 2 ) 7. Certified family registration (Kor.Ror.2) by District Office (version update as of 2025) with the original receipt of certification, valid for 1 month from the issuance date If you need our assistance, we will be able to assist you by requesting a certification of those documents at the District Office. Our service fees will be at 2,500 (+ VAT) 8. Original lease condo agreement, housbook of the condo, housebook of the owner and ID card of the owner (copies of course, no originals of those needed). 9. Scan photos with the family (Two actions per each item, the applicant and his wife must be in every photo): The applicant and family in front of your room number (condo) The applicant and family in the dining room, kitchen, and bedroom etc. 10. Original bank book; showing no less than 400,000 Baht in your personal bank account for at least three months prior to the visa application date. 11. Bank Statement covering the past 1 year (valid for 7 days from issuance) 12. Confirmation Letter (to confirm your account balance) from the bank (valid for 7 days from issuance) 13. Update bank book on the visa submission date. B: Documents needed from Wife 1. Original household registration’s spouse 2. Original spouse I.D. card 3. Original surname change certificate (Form Chor.5) - if any 4. Original certificate of Title name change - if any From all of the above the lawyer took all neccesery copies for us. Being the inquisitive bloke I am I asked why 3 months of funds seasoning, they just use that to avoid additional questions of the IO regarding for example using money from visa agent. Legally indeed 2 months. Another thing I don't recall seeing here on the forum, is the receipt from the money you pay to get the updated KhorRor2 (was 20 Baht in my case at Laksi district office). Above is what I supplied to the lawyer, as I've read here there also should be a wittness or something, possibly the lawyer was the wittness without me knowing about it, she had a fully prepared file of maybe 50 to 100 pages thick, of which I had to sign each and every page. Didn't read them all, the cramp in my hand was bad enough 😉 Me nor my wife actually spoke to the immigration officer, we were only called to the desk as he wanted to take a picture of us (with that webcam thingy they have), together and both holding our marriage certificate up (the KorRor3). We had no que number, our lawyer waited for us at the entrance and walked us in straight to one of the L1 desks where an immigration officer was waiting for us. Sat there maybe 15 minutes (and did that photo thing with the KorRor3) and received my passport back with the day to come back (15 January), and already one of those 90 day report notification slips stating I will have to my first one on the 24th of March. Most annoying thing was to get my bankbook updated on the day itself, apparently the magnetic strip is damaged on mine so can only do it at the counter. So had to que up at Kasikorn's Phak kret branch (one of the closest to immigration after they closed their Chaeng Wattana Branch), after taking some money from the ATM to make sure there was an entry of dat exact day. Actually good timing as well, I expect to have to take a short trip home and expected to need another re-entry, but the day I have to go back lines up exactly with my current allowed until day, so can use the current re-entry (multiple)! Not sure if that's just lucky, or the officer took that in account (it's exactly 3 weeks, something I hear is kind of standard when not too busy), as I had my lawyer tell him that I would likely need to go out of Thailand for a few days!
December 27, 2025Dec 27 20 minutes ago, pdebuck456 said: 10. Original bank book; showing no less than 400,000 Baht in your personal bank account for at least three months prior to the visa application date. First up thanks for very clear report. #10. 400k for THREE months??
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Needed a lot less for an LTR.. Did the above excrement for 7 years prior to 2022.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 2 minutes ago, dayo202 said: Was this for a extension or a new ? That's required year in, year out. Revealing of Thai, or maybe just modern, family values
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 11 minutes ago, dayo202 said: Was this for a extension or a new ? New, but I understand it's pretty much the same every year!
December 27, 2025Dec 27 I had submitted my annual marriage application extension at CW last month. Apart from the above comprehensive list provided by the OP, the following completed forms were also required at the time (perhaps the OP's agent took care of these items on his behalf): TM 7 extension request TM 47 copy of last 90 day report STM 2 Acknowledgement of T&C's STM 9 Acknowledgement of penalties STM 10 Affidavit of wife STM 11 Consent for fact checking Hand-drawn map showing location of residence
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 41 minutes ago, Peter Crow said: Needed a lot less for an LTR.. Did the above excrement for 7 years prior to 2022. I'd say les paperwork but (a lot) more cash?
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 7 minutes ago, mark5335 said: I had submitted my annual marriage application extension at CW last month. Apart from the above comprehensive list provided by the OP, the following completed forms were also required at the time (perhaps the OP's agent took care of these items on his behalf): TM 7 extension request TM 47 copy of last 90 day report STM 2 Acknowledgement of T&C's STM 9 Acknowledgement of penalties STM 10 Affidavit of wife STM 11 Consent for fact checking Hand-drawn map showing location of residence True on all of the above, I had indeed do a drawn map to the condo, all the other paperwork prepared by the agent and signed by me, and a few had to be signed by my wife!
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 1 hour ago, DrJack54 said: First up thanks for very clear report. #10. 400k for THREE months?? Officially two months, lawyer said they get pushback (like extra questions, some extra grilling of applicant) when marginally conforming to regulations like 401.000 Baht for two months and a day. Additionally, when per the above, exactly conforming to the minimum requirement, you can expect an extra stamp in passport to keep money in account until picking up the 1 year stamp (which I did not get)! So lawyer advised, if possible, to get a bit extra in the bank for a bit longer, just to make things that little bit smoother. Mine was there over half a year anyway!
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 1 hour ago, Peter Crow said: Needed a lot less for an LTR.. Did the above excrement for 7 years prior to 2022. Don't really see a fitting one for me! Also considering the whole company/workpermit requirements are a lot lower and easier/faster to process when on a marriage extension. Less staff needed, less capital in the company, not even a fysical office is needed! Supporting a Thai family apparently comes with perks (albeit at sort of a less visible cost 😅🤣)
December 27, 2025Dec 27 1 hour ago, pdebuck456 said: New, but I understand it's pretty much the same every year! Just curious about how much do lawyers charge for their service? It's a lot more work for marriage extension compared to retirement.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 37 minutes ago, JohnnyBD said: Just curious about how much do lawyers charge for their service? It's a lot more work for marriage extension compared to retirement. It's not a core part of the lawyer I use (corporate law), but they do have a department for visa/workpermit. They charged me 15,000Baht. I know Thaivisacenter charge well over 40,000 Baht, at least they did a few months ago.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Popular Post What was the agents role in your application except getting you to desk without appointment? Its seems like you could have done it all by yourself
December 27, 2025Dec 27 2 hours ago, pdebuck456 said: Being the inquisitive bloke I am I asked why 3 months of funds seasoning, they just use that to avoid additional questions of the IO regarding for example using money from visa agent. Legally indeed 2 months. I don't even mess with it. I just give them a full year. Given I don't use that account for anything but holding the necessary funds, a full year is about 6 or 8 lines on the statement showing accrued interest and the money I take out and put back in the day before the immigration appointment and the day of in order for their to be line items in the bank book on those days. 1 hour ago, mark5335 said: I had submitted my annual marriage application extension at CW last month. Apart from the above comprehensive list provided by the OP, the following completed forms were also required at the time (perhaps the OP's agent took care of these items on his behalf): TM 7 extension request TM 47 copy of last 90 day report STM 2 Acknowledgement of T&C's STM 9 Acknowledgement of penalties STM 10 Affidavit of wife STM 11 Consent for fact checking Hand-drawn map showing location of residence Yep - and all that too. And then a signature writing marathon to put your mark on all documents. And at least at where I do our annual application they want specific pictures: Two picture of husband and wife in the living room "doing something," two picture of husband and wife in the bedroom "doing something" ( 🤔 ), two picture of husband and wife at the front gate with the address clearly visible, two picture of husband and wife at the front gate taken from across the street with entire house in the picture - the last two we have not been instructed that we must be "doing something" like juggling a pen, a STM 11, and a bowling ball. 52 minutes ago, JohnnyBD said: Just curious about how much do lawyers charge for their service? It's a lot more work for marriage extension compared to retirement. In reality, putting the paperwork together at home using a scanner as a copier takes me about 2 hours. I shove that paperwork into three folders: Original documents, Document set 1, and Document set 2. On each folder it is clearly listed what is in each and in order. Make an appointment for a 1 hours immigration visit, get my bank letters and statement the day of the appointment, stop at a copy shop to make copies of the bank letter, statement, and bank book, go to immigration and give my wife the three folders to hand to the IO at the front, then kick back and wait to sign papers and let the wife do all of the talking. Took about 35 minutes this year. Years back when I lived in Chiang Mai, I'd hire an agent basically to stand in line for an appointment. Not sure if the dog & pony show in Chiang Mai has changed as at that time you had to show up at zero dark thirty to get a queue ticket for one of the few slots to get your paperwork processed. Now live in rural Thailand and I'm quite fond of our rural immigration office. Most of the people who show up are Myanmar workers with a handful of farangs. This visit (a few days ago) I was the only farang in the building. If you live in a big city hiring an agent to get you past the petty bureaucracy is probably a good idea. Hiring a a lawyer to do the annual marriage extension dance? Like I said, after doing this for the better part of 10+ years putting the paperwork together isn't that difficult. I don't see why the expense of hiring lawyer would be necessary as it doesn't really buy you any value. Agents are of value for getting you past the first layer of bureaucracy if you are in a big city that has high volumes of farangs needing immigration services.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 8 minutes ago, aluc said: What was the agents role in your application except getting you to desk without appointment? Its seems like you could have done it all by yourself Mainly just getting it right first time! It is a lot of paperwork, and chances, especially first time round, are substantial you miss things! Plus the in and out of immigration in 15 minutes flat. They actually went with my whole file a week upfront to immigration, getting it pre-approved, so I was in and out in 15 minutes when I went (along with the wife) the 25th Also during that pre-approvement the request came for the receipt of the KhorRor2! Which neither me nor my lawyer were aware of it was needed.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author Good chance next year I'll do it myself, when you snatch an online appointment, you're also in and out pretty fast. Regular que ticket, not so much, expect between 2 (very lucky) and 5 hours! Or get there like ungodly early! Not my definition of a fun day out 😅
December 27, 2025Dec 27 16 minutes ago, pdebuck456 said: It's not a core part of the lawyer I use (corporate law), but they do have a department for visa/workpermit. They charged me 15,000Baht. I know Thaivisacenter charge well over 40,000 Baht, at least they did a few months ago. That's a very good price, well worth it. I was on marriage extensions for 4 years before switching to the LTR-P visa in 2024. I paid an agent (not a lawyer) about the same (13k plus 4.5k for MRE permit. I did the same as you, walked in, took a pic (same IO lady each year), then left. It was money well spent as far as I'm concerned. Have a good day!
December 27, 2025Dec 27 2 hours ago, pdebuck456 said: I'd say les paperwork but (a lot) more cash? But the cash doesn't have to be in Thailand. Must show 80 KUSD income, but you have no obligation to bring it in. Similar for health insurance.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 39 minutes ago, Peter Crow said: But the cash doesn't have to be in Thailand. Must show 80 KUSD income, but you have no obligation to bring it in. Similar for health insurance. Is that before or after tax? In Europe that's some serious income if after tax! Even before tax that would be substantial if retirement. I would reach that only if allowed to count the dividends my own company pays me yearly on top of my regular salary as the owner/director... Common for Americans, much less so for Europeans. As said, in my case it opens up a much easier way to open and run my Thai company/subsidiary under the marriage extension.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 1 hour ago, pdebuck456 said: Good chance next year I'll do it myself, when you snatch an online appointment, you're also in and out pretty fast. Regular que ticket, not so much, expect between 2 (very lucky) and 5 hours! Or get there like ungodly early! Not my definition of a fun day out 😅 I would suggest doing it yourself next year IF wife is capable of discussing with IO. We used to use a lawyer in the early years to renew my WP (for our small company) and extension of non-B, but after I changed to non-O 'support thai wife' then the wife and I did the annual visa extension. Generally I'd say the process runs smoothly enough. Only gripe over the years was from one IO, that our paperwork wasn't in order - never really sure what order it should be in, but most IOs accept what's given and put in the order they require. I would add that when we used a lawyer, we found IO didn't like the ("smart") lawyer, and the IO questioned my wife why did we want to use a lawyer - so the next years we did it ourselves.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 39 minutes ago, pdebuck456 said: Is that before or after tax? In Europe that's some serious income if after tax! Even before tax that would be substantial if retirement. I would reach that only if allowed to count the dividends my own company pays me yearly on top of my regular salary as the owner/director... Common for Americans, much less so for Europeans. As said, in my case it opens up a much easier way to open and run my Thai company/subsidiary under the marriage extension. Never been asked if my numbers were before or after tax. I gave them my pension statement and the matching bank statements, end of story. But I pay zero tax on my income anyway. Don't think you could claim your salary, as they have a strict definition of "passive income". About your last statement: the LTR gave such peace of mind that I'd find it difficult to revert to marriage extensions. I'd rather join the masses with 800K deposits in Thailand... Anyhow, haven't been to an immigration office for over a couple of years, happy to the extent that I spend 5 minutes to file a TM30 every time I get back home, even though I am not even sure I have to do so.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 15 minutes ago, Peter Crow said: Never been asked if my numbers were before or after tax. I gave them my pension statement and the matching bank statements, end of story. But I pay zero tax on my income anyway. Don't think you could claim your salary, as they have a strict definition of "passive income". About your last statement: the LTR gave such peace of mind that I'd find it difficult to revert to marriage extensions. I'd rather join the masses with 800K deposits in Thailand... Anyhow, haven't been to an immigration office for over a couple of years, happy to the extent that I spend 5 minutes to file a TM30 every time I get back home, even though I am not even sure I have to do so. Absolutely! If I ever get retired it'll be either LTR or regular retirement extension, but both of those are incompatible with me needing a workpermit here in Thailand. And prefereably LTR, even more easy as, if I understand correctly, no need to deal with immigration, nor do 90 day reports.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 3 minutes ago, pdebuck456 said: Absolutely! If I ever get retired it'll be either LTR or regular retirement extension, but both of those are incompatible with me needing a workpermit here in Thailand. And prefereably LTR, even more easy as, if I understand correctly, no need to deal with immigration, nor do 90 day reports. Just on small, but maybe important for you: any LTR makes work permits easier to get as some restrictions concerning the number of employees are lifted. Also you can work with an LTR/Retiree visa, but your local income won't be considered for your assessment by BOI.
December 27, 2025Dec 27 Author 25 minutes ago, Peter Crow said: Just on small, but maybe important for you: any LTR makes work permits easier to get as some restrictions concerning the number of employees are lifted. Also you can work with an LTR/Retiree visa, but your local income won't be considered for your assessment by BOI. Ah, good to know! Assumed LTR retiree had the same restriction on work as the regular retiree extension! There might be a way towards LTR, but through the highly skilled route, as my companies (both the one here and the one back home) are solidly in one of the BOI approved sectors. That way the 80,000 USD does not have to be passive (if i read it correct), and there are some other advantages, mainly a flat 17% income tax rate on money earned in Thailand. It would (possibly) also absolve me of any tax risk on foreign earned income as the tax I pay back home is way higher then 17% and my country has a double tax treaty with Thailand. Number of employees not soo much an issue as i have two actual working employees here, and on a marriage extension that is sufficient (as opposed to 4 employees on a non-B visa) to support the workpermit. Food for thought and more money to my accountant so he can go straight to work whether feasible and tax efficient😆!
December 27, 2025Dec 27 5 hours ago, pdebuck456 said: Mainly just getting it right first time! It is a lot of paperwork, and chances, especially first time round, are substantial you miss things! Plus the in and out of immigration in 15 minutes flat. They actually went with my whole file a week upfront to immigration, getting it pre-approved, so I was in and out in 15 minutes when I went (along with the wife) the 25th Also during that pre-approvement the request came for the receipt of the KhorRor2! Which neither me nor my lawyer were aware of it was needed. Ok, I understand that. To be fair it took me three attempts to convert from visa exempt entry to Non-O. First try - not enough business days left on my VE entry Second try - my landlord didnt told me, that house where Im living is actually on his daughters name, officer spotted that when looking at chanote and send me back home again. Even on my final attempt there were some minor things what immigration officer was not happy about , but eventually she approved my application. Since then all next 3 annual extensions went very smooth
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