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The Ongoing Shock of Trump’s Cocaine Kingpin Pardon

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So while Trump has the US navy executing suspected drug smugglers/fishermen (thereby breaking international law) he has issued a full pardon to a drug kingpin that was convicted of smuggling 400,000 kgs of cocaine into the US.

I would sincerely like to hear the resident MAGA crowd's opinion on this.

'Erasing the Verdict: The Ongoing Shock of Trump’s Cocaine Kingpin Pardon'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-12-26/trump-s-pardon-of-honduras-former-president-rewrites-a-landmark-us-drug-case

https://archive.ph/YxHIW

"The DEA and DOJ for years had pursued a strategy of going after high-level targets, including foreign officials, with the power to control enormous quantities of narcotics. In court documents, the prosecutors tried to quantify Hernández’s crimes, saying he “facilitated the importation of at least 400 tons of cocaine into the United States, causing untold damage in this country and leaving unimaginable suffering in its wake.” But the boats the US military had now begun bombing seemed the equivalent of going after street-level dealers."

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  • stevenl
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    So you're ok with releasing a kingpin and going after low level guys without proof?

  • spidermike007
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    Let the bidding start, do I hear $50 million? Okay, what's the highest bid today for another pardon?

  • novacova
    novacova

    Why would the left be shocked by this, given that this is right up their alley. Seems the left should be thrilled about this “wonderful thing” cutting loose a criminal.

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15 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

'Erasing the Verdict: The Ongoing Shock of Trump’s Cocaine Kingpin Pardon'

Why would the left be shocked by this, given that this is right up their alley. Seems the left should be thrilled about this “wonderful thing” cutting loose a criminal.

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1 minute ago, novacova said:

Why would the left be shocked by this, given that this is right up their alley. Seems the left should be thrilled about this “wonderful thing” cutting loose a criminal.

So you're ok with releasing a kingpin and going after low level guys without proof?

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2 minutes ago, novacova said:

Why would the left be shocked by this, given that this is right up their alley. Seems the left should be thrilled about this “wonderful thing” cutting loose a criminal.

Well, even if your assertion about the left is true, by the same token it would seem that the right should be shocked by it. Haven't heard much in the way of expressions of shock from MAGA about this.

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Let the bidding start, do I hear $50 million? Okay, what's the highest bid today for another pardon?

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23 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So while Trump has the US navy executing suspected drug smugglers/fishermen (thereby breaking international law) he has issued a full pardon to a drug kingpin that was convicted of smuggling 400,000 kgs of cocaine into the US.

I would sincerely like to hear the resident MAGA crowd's opinion on this.

'Erasing the Verdict: The Ongoing Shock of Trump’s Cocaine Kingpin Pardon'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-12-26/trump-s-pardon-of-honduras-former-president-rewrites-a-landmark-us-drug-case

https://archive.ph/YxHIW

"The DEA and DOJ for years had pursued a strategy of going after high-level targets, including foreign officials, with the power to control enormous quantities of narcotics. In court documents, the prosecutors tried to quantify Hernández’s crimes, saying he “facilitated the importation of at least 400 tons of cocaine into the United States, causing untold damage in this country and leaving unimaginable suffering in its wake.” But the boats the US military had now begun bombing seemed the equivalent of going after street-level dealers."

I've got serious problems with the the Trump Administrations hypocritical nonsense regarding drugs. This pardon basically says that Trumps stance on drug trafficking is complete bravo-sierra. If he was serious, he'd order a AGM-114 Hellfire missile strike on the guy he just let out prison.

It's not "The Drugs." It is "The Oil." That's all this is about.

Today's daily rant , right on cue , even on new years day the crusade continues.

Exactly what do you hope to achieve with these regular rants? You certainly won't be converting anybody, and I assume others who share your affliction are just as well informed,

So its either virtue signalling to like minded others, preaching to the converted and sharing the outrage , Whilst of course increasing your reputation score

Or just an attempt to cause trouble and arguments like a petulant child,

Probably a bit of both,

5 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Well, even if your assertion about the left is true, by the same token it would seem that the right should be shocked by it.

It’s the left that are always in shock and riled up and excited.

9 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Haven't heard much in the way of expressions of shock from MAGA about this.

Maybe because it’s a non issue, and a dog bone for the left to chew on. Have fun with it! 5-5…

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3 minutes ago, novacova said:

Typical assumption from a leftie.

Well, given your failure to condemn Trump's pardon of someone convicted of what Maduro is alleged to be doing, it seems a reasonable assumption. Of course, you can dispel that doubt by condemning Trump for letting such a piece of slime go free.

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Just now, novacova said:

It’s the left that are always in shock and riled up and excited.

Maybe because it’s a non issue, and a dog bone for the left to chew on. Have fun with it! 5-5…

A non-issue? So Venezuela allowing shipments of cocaine, which mostly go to Europe, justifies military action? But pardoning the vermin who profited from letting huge amounts of cocaine pass through to the USA is a "non-issue"?

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22 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Let the bidding start, do I hear $50 million? Okay, what's the highest bid today for another pardon?

I wouldn't necessarily dismiss that Trump would sell pardons. Just add to his crypto holdings from anonymous contributors. Ta-da. Pardons happen!

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19 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Today's daily rant , right on cue , even on new years day the crusade continues.

Exactly what do you hope to achieve with these regular rants? You certainly won't be converting anybody, and I assume others who share your affliction are just as well informed,

So its either virtue signalling to like minded others, preaching to the converted and sharing the outrage , Whilst of course increasing your reputation score

Or just an attempt to cause trouble and arguments like a petulant child,

Probably a bit of both,

Why your answer? You certainly won't be converting anybody, and I assume others who share your affliction are just as well informed,

So its either virtue signalling to like minded others, preaching to the converted and sharing the outrage , Whilst of course increasing your reputation score

Or just an attempt to cause trouble and arguments like a petulant child,

Probably a bit of both,

3 minutes ago, connda said:

I wouldn't necessarily dismiss that Trump would sell pardons. Just add to his crypto holdings from anonymous contributors. Ta-da. Pardons happen!

How many pardons of foreign presidents convicted of helping to run drugs to the USA have there been? Pardons don't just happen. It's not like the weather. It takes actual human agency. In the case of pardons, ultimately the agency of one person.

35 minutes ago, novacova said:

Why would the left be shocked by this, given that this is right up their alley. Seems the left should be thrilled about this “wonderful thing” cutting loose a criminal.

Ok, sure 🤣🤣 Tell us again how you have no comprehension of the left without telling us 🤣🤣

45 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So you're ok with releasing a kingpin and going after low level guys without proof?

So you are ok with letting millions criminal illegal aliens cross borders and stupid left judges and Attorney Generals setting thousands criminals free but you are upset about one criminal being set free. How oxymoronic. The left are scraping desperately further into the abyss.

11 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Why your answer?

it was not an answer it was a comment , and not directed at you, although your sort are experts at taking offence on behalf of others.

I would have thought you might be able to do better than to just copy and paste my post as a reply. I was of course wrong

The OP asking for the opinions of "The resident MAGA crowd leaves no doubt as to his trolling intentions, for which I have criticised him , and questioned his motives .

I certainly have not tried to convert anybody, invited any comments, or tried to start any arguments

So your double quoting me was clearly inappropriate, and a rather pathetic attempt to imply hypocrisy on my part .

Did you have difficulty understanding what I wrote , I would edit it and reduce the syllable count for you but I'm out of time, What a pity eh ?

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45 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Today's daily rant , right on cue , even on new years day the crusade continues.

Exactly what do you hope to achieve with these regular rants? You certainly won't be converting anybody, and I assume others who share your affliction are just as well informed,

So its either virtue signalling to like minded others, preaching to the converted and sharing the outrage , Whilst of course increasing your reputation score

Or just an attempt to cause trouble and arguments like a petulant child,

Probably a bit of both,


I believe he was asking if anyone could justify - or explain - the hypocrisy. Obviously you can't.

"Exactly what do you hope to achieve with these regular rants?"

Did you ever ask Riclag on any of his solo threads why he is ranting about foreigners and what he hopes to achieve? Nope. More hypocrisy then.

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2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

it was not an answer it was a comment , and not directed at you, although your sort are experts at taking offence on behalf of others.

I would have thought you might be able to do better than to just copy and paste my post as a reply. I was of course wrong

The OP asking for the opinions of "The resident MAGA crowd leaves no doubt as to his trolling intentions, for which I have criticised him , and questioned his motives .

I certainly have not tried to convert anybody, invited any comments, or tried to start any arguments

So your double quoting me was clearly inappropriate, and a rather pathetic attempt to imply hypocrisy on my part .

Did you have difficulty understanding what I wrote , I would edit it and reduce the syllable count for you but I'm out of time, What a pity eh ?

Of course your post was hypocritical.

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6 minutes ago, khunJam said:

So you are ok with letting millions criminal illegal aliens cross borders and stupid left judges and Attorney Generals setting thousands criminals free but you are upset about one criminal being set free. How oxymoronic. The left are scraping desperately further into the abyss.

Trump has engaged the US in a costly military operation because the leader of that country is working in concert with cocaine dealers to transship cocaine. And most of that cocaine doesn't even go to America

But a leader of another country convicted of helping to send hundreds of tons of cocaine to the USA he sets free.

And all you have to offer is a deflection about illegal aliens.

You've got nothing.

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9 minutes ago, khunJam said:

So you are ok with letting millions criminal illegal aliens cross borders and stupid left judges and Attorney Generals setting thousands criminals free but you are upset about one criminal being set free. How oxymoronic. The left are scraping desperately further into the abyss.

Ok, so you're ok with trump pardoning him.

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53 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Today's daily rant , right on cue , even on new years day the crusade continues.

Exactly what do you hope to achieve with these regular rants? You certainly won't be converting anybody, and I assume others who share your affliction are just as well informed,

So its either virtue signalling to like minded others, preaching to the converted and sharing the outrage , Whilst of course increasing your reputation score

Or just an attempt to cause trouble and arguments like a petulant child,

Probably a bit of both,

You're in the wrong forum. This one isn't dedicated to discussing members but rather issues. To put it another way, you've got nothing.

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Ok, so you're ok with trump pardoning him.

Ok, so you are ok with crazed criminals running rampant without accountability.

Just now, khunJam said:

Ok, so you are ok with crazed criminals running rampant without accountability.

Start a thread about that issue if you want. This isn't that.

3 minutes ago, khunJam said:

Ok, so you are ok with crazed criminals running rampant without accountability.

Why don't you start a thread about your frustration. This is not about crazed criminals running rampage, but about a pardon for a drug kingpin.

Can we get back on topic please.

7 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Trump has engaged the US in a costly military operation because the leader of that country is working in concert with cocaine dealers to transship cocaine. And most of that cocaine doesn't even go to America

But a leader of another country convicted of helping to send hundreds of tons of cocaine to the USA he sets free.

And all you have to offer is a deflection about illegal aliens.

You've got nothing.

You got nothing ph as usual. And another oxymoronic post.What you have are contradictories on a waffling foundation. It bugs you that Trump pardons someone, but you are just fine when the left lets criminals roam freely.

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Why don't you start a thread about your frustration. This is not about crazed criminals running rampage, but about a pardon for a drug kingpin.

Can we get back on topic please.

Talking to your self again?

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1 minute ago, khunJam said:

You got nothing ph as usual. And another oxymoronic post.What you have are contradictories on a waffling foundation. It bugs you that Trump pardons someone, but you are just fine when the left lets criminals roam freely.

But TRUMP is letting convicted criminals go free, the Capitol lot, for instance, TRUMP's own criminals......😒

2 minutes ago, khunJam said:

Talking to your self again?

A pity that staying on topic is too much to ask.

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11 minutes ago, khunJam said:

Ok, so you are ok with crazed criminals running rampant without accountability.

Well, he was elected president.

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