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Time to Ditch Gmail ?

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Why people are leaving Gmail

Gmail scans your emails and metadata and uses that data for AI training and ad targeting. Google has access to your inbox content.

Proton

Publicised concerns have made privacy more of a priority for many users.

If you don’t want a big tech company reading or processing your messages, Gmail’s data model isn’t a good fit.

What ProtonMail does differently

Encryption: Emails are encrypted so only you and your recipient can read them. ProtonMail can’t see your content.

No data mining: No ads, no inbox scanning for profiles.

Privacy-friendly jurisdiction: Based in Switzerland with strong privacy laws.

Zero-access storage: Stored encrypted so even Proton can’t read it.

Value comparison

Gmail is free and easy, but your data powers the service.

ProtonMail has a free account, and paid plans start around $4 month for a solid encrypted email service with decent storage and features.

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That price gives you real privacy that Gmail doesn’t offer.

If privacy matters to you, ProtonMail is worth trying.

Click here to get $20 off a paid plan and a 14 day FREE TRIAL

Paid plans start at $3.99 month, giving you more privacy and features than Gmail.

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8 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

ProtonMail has a free account, and paid plans start around $4 month for a solid encrypted email service with decent storage and features.

It might sound trite, but "freedom isn't free".

I've been a ProtonMail user for many years, and at first I was a freetard.

It's stable. For me it lacks a few features both in the client and in such things like filtering, etc. SPAM load to this account is low. AFAIAA there is no way to disable automatically marking opened e-mail as read. For me this is the biggest flaw (this "feature" is shared amongst most e-mail clients). I don't subscribe to "Inbox 0"; pointless when you can search your mail store. I prefer "Unread 0". If it's unread it's not been dealt with, so I don't appreciate my e-mail being marked as read simply because I looked at it.

There is a web mail version as well as desktop and smartphone versions. If, like me, you hate webmail, still use Gmail &/ or Yahoo! mail for SPAM segregation reasons and so don't want to run a separate app/ web browser tab for every account, then there is Proton Bridge that allows you to connect your favourite e-mail client to your ProtonMail data store via IMAP.

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Everyone can read your email as it is sent in clear txt...unless you and the recipient use PGP or some other encryption system...if you do encrypt the message then you could just carry on using gmail, hotmail or yahoo as before.

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No emails are safe for privacy, no matter what service you use. That's pretty much includes everything and anything on the internet.

Really only a concern for criminals. Don't stress yourselves.

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I want Google to win since I am invested in them.

20 hours ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

There is a web mail version as well as desktop and smartphone versions. If, like me, you hate webmail, still use Gmail &/ or Yahoo! mail for SPAM segregation reasons and so don't want to run a separate app/ web browser tab for every account, then there is Proton Bridge that allows you to connect your favourite e-mail client to your ProtonMail data store via IMAP.

I use the Thunderbird email browser. It has the possibility of multiple email clients including gmail. I tried including gmail, but the way I had the browser set up, it was going to download all of my gmails in webmail (not archived), so I gave up on that.

My main email provider is set in the Thunderbird browser (pre-Nova version) as pop3, which means that messages can be set to be deleted from webmail when downloaded. Can Proton be set this way, so that messages don't have to be deleted by accessing webmail, even if Proton messages are set to be encrypted?

Email is the fax machine of the 2020's .

I rarely use it ,keep it only to receive certain communication,less each year.

Used both gmail.com and yahoo.fr for about two decades. Until in 2020 first one and then the other, without warning, became incompatible with my e-mail client Pegasus Mail, which I have been using since the 1990s.

Still possible to access them using a web-browser. But this is unsatisfactory for consulting, organising, and storing heavy e-mail traffic.

Pegasus Mail was, and remains, a brilliant piece of feature-rich software, is free, available in several language versions, and is security-oriented. No way I was going to give it up.

My principal e-mail account for the past 5+ years has been with posteo.de which offers both web-mail and true e-mail protocols, and choice of English, German, or French. Cost 1 euro per month payable in advance, so I send about a year's worth. Reliable. End-to-end encryption available.

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4 hours ago, bwanajohn said:

Email is the fax machine of the 2020's .

I rarely use it ,keep it only to receive certain communication,less each year.

Buy a PC so the emails are easier to read.

4 hours ago, Ebumbu said:

I want Google to win since I am invested in them.

According to well informed sources, 'The Magnificent Seven', which includes Google, are likely to drop significantly this year. Maybe more than average - recession said to lie ahead. Forewarned is fore-armed.

6 hours ago, placnx said:

I use the Thunderbird email browser. It has the possibility of multiple email clients including gmail. I tried including gmail, but the way I had the browser set up, it was going to download all of my gmails in webmail (not archived), so I gave up on that.

My main email provider is set in the Thunderbird browser (pre-Nova version) as pop3, which means that messages can be set to be deleted from webmail when downloaded. Can Proton be set this way, so that messages don't have to be deleted by accessing webmail, even if Proton messages are set to be encrypted?

I used to use Postbox, which is based on Thunderbird. Postbox was recently acquired by eM Client. It supports POP3 and IMAP. I prefer IMAP.

I have it configured to pick up my Yahoo!, Gmail accounts and my ProtonMail account via Proton Mail Bridge (Bridge). You have to have a paid subscription in order to use Bridge. What Bridge seems to do is provide a kind of IMAP proxy that connects to your Thunderbird client and seamlessly handles encryption/ decryption, thus fooling Thunderbird into thinking it is dealing with a "normal" IMAP server.

https://proton.me/support/imap-smtp-and-pop3-setup

"IMAP, SMTP, and POP3 setup"

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On 1/2/2026 at 6:06 PM, johng said:

Everyone can read your email as it is sent in clear txt...unless you and the recipient use PGP or some other encryption system...if you do encrypt the message then you could just carry on using gmail, hotmail or yahoo as before.

"Everyone"? These days, by default, TLS or something similar is used to establish the connection between your client and the remote mail server store. Thus your SMTP, POP3 or IMAP traffic is encrypted on the wire.

Next, consider if your data are encrypted at rest. You will find Google and Yahoo! Mail do not encrypt your mail store at rest. This is what allows them to scan your e-mail, mining it for information to sell to advertisers, target ads at you, train their AI, etc. Of course, this information would never be handed over to a government upon request /sarc.

Proton Mail encrypts your data at rest. Proton cannot read your e-mail because they don't have the private keys. Your mail store looks like an encrypted blob to them.

5 minutes ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

Thus your SMTP, POP3 or IMAP traffic is encrypted on the wire.

Doesn't mater, if the message is sent in plain text ....gmail, yahoo,hotmail etc can read the plaintext message

on their server thus as good as everyone.. (3 letter agencies) can read it

encrypt your message with something like PGP then they can not (easily) read it... ? (maybe)

Proton say they cannot read the mail but..who really knows ?..they could even be a pager and walkie talkie subsidiary for all we know !!!

I have a proton address but only use it when yahoo is pestering me again.

The proton user interface is not appealing.

On 1/3/2026 at 5:50 PM, ericbj said:

According to well informed sources, 'The Magnificent Seven', which includes Google, are likely to drop significantly this year. Maybe more than average - recession said to lie ahead. Forewarned is fore-armed.

The market can remain illogical longer than you can remain solvent.

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On 1/2/2026 at 6:28 PM, KhunLA said:

No emails are safe for privacy, no matter what service you use. That's pretty much includes everything and anything on the internet.

Really only a concern for criminals. Don't stress yourselves.

I don't buy that line, I think it's almost a meme. You write the wrong thing once in your email, it gets flagged and all of us sudden you're under scrutiny. Whether it be political or whether it be a joke that's interpreted as some sort of veil threat.

The US intelligence agencies are so far over the top these days, their budget is way beyond what it should be, and the original mandate of rooting out terrorism and spying on foreigners has gone completely out the window. I'm not blaming Trump for this, this happened a long time ago.

Proton is good as long as you don't put all your eggs in the one basket. They also offer $70 per aquisition through their affiliate links which is why you see it pushed so heavily across all platforms.

15 minutes ago, sikishrory said:

Proton is good as long as you don't put all your eggs in the one basket

That comment applies to all commodities/platforms etc.

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