ICE have murdered a woman on the streets of Minneapolis, and now they’re trying to lie to you about it. By now, you’ve almost certainly seen the footage. Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old woman driving a purple SUV, is sitting in the street, idling her car. She was a legal observer, there to keep an eye on ICE as they wage yet another series of immigration raids in Minneapolis, and report any misconduct she saw. The masked, heavily-armed troops approach her, reportedly shouting contradictory instructions: one agent tells her to drive away, another to get out of the car. One of them grabs her SUV’s door handle and yanks on it. Confused and scared, she tries to turn and drive off. So one of the agents draws a pistol, and he shoots and kills her.

As soon as they killed Renee Good, they began lying about it. In a statement on Truth Social, President Trump said that Good was “obviously, a professional agitator” who had “violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense.” He then claimed the ICE agent was “recovering in the hospital” and lucky to be alive. But none of that is true. She hadn’t run over anyone. The murderer, who has since been identified by the Minneapolis Star Tribune as Jonathan Ross, was fine; the footage shows him “walking away apparently uninjured.” Confronted (for once) with video evidence he was lying, Trump mumbled and changed the subject.

It’s clear from the video that

(1) She’s not trying to run over the officer, she’s trying to get away from them (she turns right, away from the officer).

2) The officer did not become any safer by killing her, since nothing would have been different if he’d just moved out of the way of the car without shooting her, except that she would be alive.

(3) He kept firing even when he was next to the car, out of its path.

The Department of Homeland Security briefings that they have put out about Good’s killing have been brazenly, insultingly false. On its social media feeds, the DHS has claimed Good was a “violent rioter” who had “weaponized her vehicle, attempting to run over our law enforcement officers in an attempt to kill them—an act of domestic terrorism.” This, they say, led the ICE agent to shoot in self-defense, “fearing for his life.” But again, this is not true. Simply watching the footage is enough to disprove it. These men were wearing body armor and carrying guns. They were approaching an unarmed woman in a Honda, which was barely moving—certainly not fast enough to be much of a “weapon.” She was not “rioting.” If they “feared for their lives” under those circumstances, they had only their own cowardice to blame.

This was bound to happen sooner or later. ICE agents are swarming our cities, given heavy weaponry, anonymity, and impunity. They are the largest law enforcement agency in the country, thanks to the monster budget Congress has given them. Virtually anybody can become an ICE agent with minimal training or background checks, including teenagers as young as 18, and there have been multiple cases of ICE officials with ties to neo-Nazi and other white supremacist groups that were only discovered after years on the job. Good isn’t the first person they’ve shot; there have already been nine others since last September. Earlier in Minneapolis, ICE agents stormed into a school, “began tackling people, handcuffed two staff members and released chemical weapons on bystanders.” In Louisiana, a detention officer recently pleaded guilty to sexually abusing prisoners at an ICE facility. And those are the crimes we know about.

As we know many law enforcement officers in America do their work with honor and decency, but unfortunately there are many law enforcement officers in America who are overzealous and who overreact to situations, and in the process cause death or mayhem. There's no question that ICE needs to be brought under control, and the way that they're currently functioning is utterly disgraceful. They are truly reigning terror upon the American people. Shame on them and shame on Trump and Noem.

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Citizens have a right to expect professionalism from public servants, including high ethical standards, competence, integrity, and impartiality. ICE fails to make the grade.

18 minutes ago, Real Name Hidden said:

Citizens have a right to expect professionalism from public servants, including high ethical standards, competence, integrity, and impartiality. ICE fails to make the grade.

I always expect corruption and incompetence from government employees.

9 minutes ago, Real Name Hidden said:

You must be pro-Trump then

No, I'm a Marxist and only vote for Arthur Scargill's socialist Labour Party.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

It’s clear from the video that

(1) She’s not trying to run over the officer, she’s trying to get away from them (she turns right, away from the officer).

It's very stupid of the cop to be standing in front of the car. It's very bad police protocol.

Very often when officers pull someone over, they resist arrest and drive off. The cop shouldn't have been standing there in the first place.

If they drive off, you chase them. Not try to block the car by standing in front of it.

That cop should be fired.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

He kept firing even when he was next to the car, out of its path.

But it is possible that these ICE agents are losing their cool due to all the harassment they've been getting on the streets.

Doesn't excuse it. Not saying he should have pulled the trigger.

But these ICE guys are probably stressed out and maybe even afraid for their own safety.

ICE = Trump's SS and Gestapo.

5 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

ICE = Trump's SS and Gestapo.

It's only Gestapo if they are harming legal residents and law-abiding citizens.

Illegals are fair game. Especially if they have criminal records.

Which is what the govt site claims. Is it just propaganda? Not sure.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/01/07/ice-arrests-worst-worst-criminal-illegal-aliens-including-pedophiles-violent

Yesterday’s arrests include:

Hiram Urgell-Pardo, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico convicted of sexual assault of a child in Starr County, Texas.

Randolfo Agusto Diaz-Cabrera, a criminal illegal alien from Dominican Republic convicted of course of second-degree sexual conduct against a child in Kings County, New York.

Brett Archer, a criminal illegal alien from Barbados convicted of assault in Brooklyn, New York.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

It's only Gestapo if they are harming legal residents and law-abiding citizens.

Illegals are fair game. Especially if they have criminal records.

Which is what the govt site claims. Is it just propaganda? Not sure.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/01/07/ice-arrests-worst-worst-criminal-illegal-aliens-including-pedophiles-violent

Yesterday’s arrests include:

Hiram Urgell-Pardo, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico convicted of sexual assault of a child in Starr County, Texas.

Randolfo Agusto Diaz-Cabrera, a criminal illegal alien from Dominican Republic convicted of course of second-degree sexual conduct against a child in Kings County, New York.

Brett Archer, a criminal illegal alien from Barbados convicted of assault in Brooklyn, New York.

Can you share with us what is the the percentage of apprehended illegal aliens constitutes out of all apprehended illegals?

As I have noted other topic, this case is not likely to be a criminal case (i.e. the DOJ has already said this was self-defense against a weaponized vehicle) this is more like to be a civil case where there would be issues of federal employee immunity.

The response to claims of federal immunity are addressed in Supreme Court decision:

via AI Gemini:

In a civil trial in federal court, the liability of a federal officer is often determined using an objective "reasonable person" standard. This standard is primarily applied in the context of the legal defense of qualified immunity.

The standard is purely objective; the official's subjective intent or belief is not the primary factor. The court asks:

Would a reasonable official in the same circumstances have known that their conduct violated that clearly established right?

34 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But it is possible that these ICE agents are losing their cool due to all the harassment they've been getting on the streets.

Doesn't excuse it. Not saying he should have pulled the trigger.

But these ICE guys are probably stressed out and maybe even afraid for their own safety.

Well they should be afraid, they should be very afraid, the terror that they are reigning down upon the American people is going to result in a huge amount of blowback, and these guys are in the crosshairs, and it's very likely they're going to be getting little in the way of sympathy from most people.

8 minutes ago, JerryM said:

As I have noted other topic, this case is not likely to be a criminal case (i.e. the DOJ has already said this was self-defense against a weaponized vehicle) this is more like to be a civil case where there would be issues of federal employee immunity.

The response to claims of federal immunity are addressed in Supreme Court decision:

via AI Gemini:

In a civil trial in federal court, the liability of a federal officer is often determined using an objective "reasonable person" standard. This standard is primarily applied in the context of the legal defense of qualified immunity.

The standard is purely objective; the official's subjective intent or belief is not the primary factor. The court asks:

Would a reasonable official in the same circumstances have known that their conduct violated that clearly established right?

Yes. There was nothing reasonable about the behavior of Jonathan Ross, he was simply a man who was pumped up on adrenaline and completely intoxicated with his the power that he's been granted by the ridiculous organization that he represents.

And what happened was simply emblematic of a broken nation that is failing dismally, and on a rather dramatic wane.

Still opening new threads about this ?

It was not murder.

She got what she deserved.

50 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But it is possible that these ICE agents are losing their cool due to all the harassment they've been getting on the streets.

Doesn't excuse it. Not saying he should have pulled the trigger.

But these ICE guys are probably stressed out and maybe even afraid for their own safety.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

ICE have murdered a woman on the streets of Minneapolis,

You are an atypical woke liberal Dems supporter - sewing division and hate whenever they can. It was not a murder and there is an investigation being conducted. I hope the thread is taken down. Totally unacceptable and hate speech - it was either an excessive inappropriate use of force, or it was an acceptable response to a threat of harm or death. Either way - your attack is disgusting.

41 minutes ago, JerryM said:

As I have noted other topic, this case is not likely to be a criminal case (i.e. the DOJ has already said this was self-defense against a weaponized vehicle) this is more like to be a civil case where there would be issues of federal employee immunity.

The response to claims of federal immunity are addressed in Supreme Court decision:

via AI Gemini:

In a civil trial in federal court, the liability of a federal officer is often determined using an objective "reasonable person" standard. This standard is primarily applied in the context of the legal defense of qualified immunity.

The standard is purely objective; the official's subjective intent or belief is not the primary factor. The court asks:

Would a reasonable official in the same circumstances have known that their conduct violated that clearly established right?

"The standard is purely objective; the official's subjective intent or belief is not the primary factor. The court asks:

Would a reasonable official in the same circumstances have known that their conduct violated that clearly established right?"

Intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that the answer to that question is purely subjective.

58 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Can you share with us what is the the percentage of apprehended illegal aliens constitutes out of all apprehended illegals?

100%

3 minutes ago, XRules said:

100%

You got me there.

What I meant to write, was "Can you share with us what is the the percentage of apprehended illegal aliens who have committed heinous crimes out of all apprehended illegals?"

1 hour ago, JerryM said:

Would a reasonable official in the same circumstances have known that their conduct violated that clearly established right?

Washington Post headline this morning:

ICE tactics and training under scrutiny after Minneapolis shooting

Many policing experts say officer who fired fatal shots may have placed himself at needless risk by standing in front of Renée Good’s car.

19 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You got me there.

What I meant to write, was "Can you share with us what is the the percentage of apprehended illegal aliens who have committed heinous crimes out of all apprehended illegals?"

Define heinous. They have all committed a federal crime.

Just now, XRules said:

Define heinous. They have all committed a federal crime.

Now, if you were using sonething called the internet, you could have looked that up for yourself. But here it is from the folks at Oxford:

hei·nous

/ˈhānəs/

https://ssl.gstatic.com/dictionary/static/promos/20181204/pronunciation.svg

adjective

1. (of a person or wrongful act, especially a crime) utterly odious or wicked.

https://www.google.com/search?q=heinous&oq=heinous&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDQ3NjdqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

And given that you're such an ardent supporter of Trump, here's one from an American source:

Key Meanings

• Extremely Evil/Wicked: Something that is fundamentally bad and morally reprehensible.

• Shockingly Offensive: So terrible that it causes great disgust or outrage.

• Abominable/Atrocious: Deserving of hatred or severe condemnation. 

  https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+of+heinous+from+webster&oq=definition+of+heinous+from+webster&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDg2MzhqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Now, if you were using sonething called the internet, you could have looked that up for yourself. But here it is from the folks at Oxford:

hei·nous

/ˈhānəs/

https://ssl.gstatic.com/dictionary/static/promos/20181204/pronunciation.svg

adjective

1. (of a person or wrongful act, especially a crime) utterly odious or wicked.

https://www.google.com/search?q=heinous&oq=heinous&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDQ3NjdqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

And given that you're such an ardent supporter of Trump, here's one from an American source:

Key Meanings

• Extremely Evil/Wicked: Something that is fundamentally bad and morally reprehensible.

• Shockingly Offensive: So terrible that it causes great disgust or outrage.

• Abominable/Atrocious: Deserving of hatred or severe condemnation. 

  https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+of+heinous+from+webster&oq=definition+of+heinous+from+webster&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDg2MzhqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I meant what is your definition - obviously.

As far as I am aware there is no official crime type that is called heinous in USA - or anywhere else.

6 minutes ago, XRules said:

I meant what is your definition - obviously.

As far as I am aware there is no official crime type that is called heinous in USA - or anywhere else.

But it's not about the legal definition. It's the fact that MAGA supporters repeatedly cite such cases to support calls for massive extradition. Why do they single out such criminals if the gravity of their crimes is irrelevant?

I was supporting Trump dealing with illegals thinking it would rub off canada, but had no idea it would go this Nazi way including territorial claims.

I'm so p off at myself, I'm watching The View

9 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

But it's not about the legal definition. It's the fact that MAGA supporters repeatedly cite such cases to support calls for massive extradition. Why do they single out such criminals if the gravity of their crimes is irrelevant?

Deflection and Avoidance. You think they should only arrest and deport those convicted of serious crimes?

ICE are detaining and deporting all illegal criminals - meaning anyone who illegally entered USA. I thin k their name should make that clear - United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The fact that many of them are serous criminals is only a bonus. Trump and the GOP campaigned on doing exactly that. 'The biggest ever - it is going to be huuuuge' - or words to that effect.

1 hour ago, XRules said:

You are an atypical woke liberal Dems supporter - sewing division and hate whenever they can. It was not a murder and there is an investigation being conducted. I hope the thread is taken down. Totally unacceptable and hate speech - it was either an excessive inappropriate use of force, or it was an acceptable response to a threat of harm or death. Either way - your attack is disgusting.

Have you looked lately at polling about how the public views ICE? I'll give you a hint. It's way down. And the Trump adminstration trying to label this woman as a domestic terrorist clearly isn't helping their cause. Although I have to say those last 8 words she said are pretty terrifying "That's fine, dude. I'm not mad at you." 

https://archive.ph/GUxOV

3 minutes ago, XRules said:

Deflection and Avoidance. You think they should only arrest and deport those convicted of serious crimes?

ICE are detaining and deporting all illegal criminals - meaning anyone who illegally entered USA. I thin k their name should make that clear - United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The fact that many of them are serous criminals is only a bonus. Trump and the GOP campaigned on doing exactly that. 'The biggest ever - it is going to be huuuuge' - or words to that effect.

Please. Trump repeatedly cited removing dangerous criminals as a justification for his program. In fact, a big reason Americans have turned against the program is the fact that most Americans believed that that they would be the target and not peaceful illegals who lived and worked in the USA.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-trump-deportation-program-prices/

ANd of course, the Americans who approve of ICE has plummeted even further since this poll was taken.

8 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Have you looked lately at polling about how the public views ICE? I'll give you a hint. It's way down. And the Trump adminstration trying to label this woman as a domestic terrorist clearly isn't helping their cause. Although I have to say those last 8 words she said are pretty terrifying "That's fine, dude. I'm not mad at you." 

https://archive.ph/GUxOV

You know very well that statement she made is out of context - assuming you have watched all the videos. Her partner was on the other side and outside the car and they were refusing to move their vehicle and had been deliberately blocking them all day. The Officer who fired was in front of the vehicle at the time, and there were several other Officers involved in trying to get her to move the car. When her partner got back into the car she told the woman to 'drive drive drive'. Meanwhile the Officer in front had said 'Right - Get out of the vehicle'. I am not sure whether he pulled his gun when saying that (probably did). She then accelerated her car in his direction (as directed by her partner). Although we can see in the videos from other positions that she also started to turn the wheel - from his position directly in front of her, the wheels turning would not have been visible - all he would have seen is the car moving forward towards him. Tragic and so unnecessary - and caused by the Dems calling for the continued harassment and threats made against the ICE Officers. Also caused because ICE and local police had not been aggressive enough in arresting people who were blocking and threatening ICE Officers. Now made worse by the subsequent headlines and stories from liberal media like CNN.