31 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Oh great, a pearl clutching contest!👏

Here's another question: What should one do with pedophiles and other sex offenders, and those who protect their identities?

They should be arrested and incarcerated. So should the folks who protect them. I would hope you agree.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Ask the families of Laken Riley and Jocelyn Nungary.

I know that farmers in the West with orchards are having a terrible time finding workers now that illegal aliens are lying low or leaving the country. Maybe you should apply to be a cherry picker.

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

I know that farmers in the West with orchards are having a terrible time finding workers now that illegal aliens are lying low or leaving the country. Maybe you should apply to be a cherry picker.

Making it personal shows you, as always, have nothing.

5 minutes ago, novacova said:

The selective outrage is quite silly and the lack of wherewithal coming out of the left is absurdity astounding. Obama deployed ICE and deported over 5 million illegals during his presidency and Clinton deported over 12 million. Not a single protest, not a single word from the media. Not a single activist. Not a single ICE agent harassed or killed. Not a single judge prohibited the deportations in the court.

Obama facilitated the bombing of Libya, for seven months, with no congressional permission. Not a single word from the media. Not a single word from the activists. Not a single protest held. Not a word from politicians.

Trump deploys ICE to deport people in our country illegally and the left goes in a tirade of weekly protest, judges inhibiting courts, media demonizing ICE and the president, activists leading the harassment of agents and officers, ICE agents threatened, ambushed and killed.

Trump goes into Venezuela in under 3 hours and extracts a monstrous dictator, who had a bounty on his head even under Biden and brings him back to the states to face trial and the leftist Media demonizes the president, mass protests, Trump is a dictator vigils.

Utter lameness, in this point in history the left are making a complete mockery of themselves.

Brilliantly worded . You described over 15 years of what Dem democracy looks like.

4 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Not just those danerd liberals and libertarians. It's the warm and fuzzy attitude that the un-American vast majority of Americans have towards these immigrants that's really the problem:

They don't know what they want, that's the point. They don't want to hire more border control and smash heads when needed but they also don't want illegals flooding into their community.

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Ask the families of Laken Riley and Jocelyn Nungary.

Still, I do have to concede that there is something to what you're saying. After all, when someone's daughter is raped and murdered, I bet they hope and pray that it wasn't done by an

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Making it personal shows you, as always, have nothing.

Making a joke about cherry picking, which is what you were doing, is not the same thing as making it personal.

11 minutes ago, novacova said:

Obama deployed ICE and deported over 5 million illegals during his presidency and Clinton deported over 12 million.

People don't understand how they're being manipulated over the course of years. In 1995 those same people were in total agreement with Bill Clinton but today if they hold his same position they'd be MAGA.

18 minutes ago, novacova said:

The selective hypocritical outrage is quite silly and the lack of wherewithal coming out of the left is absurdity astounding. Obama deployed ICE and deported over 5 million illegals during his presidency and Clinton deported over 12 million. Not a single protest, not a single word from the media. Not a single activist. Not a single ICE agent harassed or killed. Not a single judge prohibited the deportations in the court.

Obama facilitated the bombing of Libya, for seven months, with no congressional permission. Not a single word from the media. Not a single word from the activists. Not a single protest held. Not a word from politicians.

Trump deploys ICE to deport people in our country illegally and the left goes in a tirade of weekly protest, judges inhibiting courts, media demonizing ICE and the president, activists leading the harassment of agents and officers, ICE agents threatened, ambushed and killed.

Trump goes into Venezuela in under 3 hours and extracts a monstrous dictator, who had a bounty on his head even under Biden and brings him back to the states to face trial and the leftist Media demonizes the president, mass protests, Trump is a dictator vigils.

Utter lameness, in this point in history the left are making a complete mockery of themselves.

And Clinton and Obama deported lots of illegals but they did it without the use of a paramilitary force employing the kinds of methods that would ordinarily be used against violent criminals. They didn't indiscrimately send them to brutal foreign prisons or confine them in conditions that regularly earned stern rebukes from judges. And back then, ICE wasn't repeatedly rebuked by judges for testilying.

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

Sounds like your cult leader

Ok. And what's your plan. It is easy to criticize, but the presence of millions of unauthorized migrants was a destabilizing situation and no longer viable.

14 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

People don't understand how they're being manipulated over the course of years. In 1995 those same people were in total agreement with Bill Clinton but today if they hold his same position they'd be MAGA.

Typical rightwing elitist.

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Ok. And what's your plan. It is easy to criticize, but the presence of millions of unauthorized migrants was a destabilizing situation and no longer viable.

He has no plans, he only has insults

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Ok. And what's your plan. It is easy to criticize, but the presence of millions of unauthorized migrants was a destabilizing situation and no longer viable.

Is it a destabilizing situation? It looks to me like the loss of workers and their contribution to the American economy has been a destabilizing situation.

14 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

People don't understand how they're being manipulated over the course of years. In 1995 those same people were in total agreement with Bill Clinton but today if they hold his same position they'd be MAGA.

14 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

People don't understand how they're being manipulated over the course of years

People ,many have short memories. others have been radicalized by ideological forces , Social justice activism.

Communist/ Anarchist /Progressive extremists are doubling down on propaganda tactics. Everybody is a Nazi to them.

11 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Ok. And what's your plan. It is easy to criticize, but the presence of millions of unauthorized migrants was a destabilizing situation and no longer viable.

Why the cult leader, in which you believe so much, doesn't have a plan?

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

Oh great, a pearl clutching contest!👏

Here's another question: What should one do with pedophiles and other sex offenders, and those who protect their identities?

That is a difficult one.

If the sex offending pedophile is an old pervert that molests his child daughter in the shower he must be protected, speaking of his ill deeds must be censored, he must not be prosecuted.

If the above incestuous pedophiliac perverts son flies minors across state lines to rape them and snort powder from their bodies, once again, he must not be charged, and censorship must be used to keep the sex offenders activities quiet.

But IF the allegations are pure fantasy against an obese orange hued individual, well that is different. He is automatically guilty without any need for evidence. His alleged fantasy crimes must be shouted from the rooftops.

Hope that helps🤣

7 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Typical rightwing elitist.

Wildly popular Democratic president Bill Clinton is saying the same as Trump is today. Too many illegal aliens and we need more border agents. So what really changed? Did Americans change after years of good experiences and learned to love illegals or were they brainwashed into holding positions which are against their own interests?

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And Clinton and Obama deported lots of illegals but they did it without the use of a paramilitary force employing the kinds of methods that would ordinarily be used against violent criminals. They didn't indiscrimately send them to brutal foreign prisons or confine them in conditions that regularly earned stern rebukes from judges. And back then, ICE wasn't repeatedly rebuked by judges for testilying.

The ability to more easily deport only took effect in 1996 with the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA), a Republican initiated Bill Prior to the Act, it was easier to block a deportation. Clinton could not have vetoed the Bill because it had a 2/3 majority vote.

The Clinton era deportations did not work because the same people came back. The Bush Administration implemented the hiring and legal process that allowed the Obama administration to implement a crackdown. It was the Bush Administration that ended the catch and release method. Yes, the Obama administration moved on deportations. His hand was forced because the numbers were swelling. Had his administration not acted, the country would have been over run. Trump's immigration measures in Term 1 were helped by Covid which allowed him to close the border. If not for the border closing, the US would have fallen into a crisis. The real effectiveness has come through the deterrence of the current strategy. Fewer people are trying to cross the borders now because they know that there is a greater likelihood of being caught and if caught, sent somewhere unpleasant.

10 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And Clinton and Obama deported lots of illegals but they did it without the use of a paramilitary force employing the kinds of methods that would ordinarily be used against violent criminals.

ICE is no different now than it was then. The only difference now is the media has gotten you and the left all railed up about the norm which now is the result of a problem exasperated by the previous administration. Though you already know this, so stop pretending with the disingenuous hypocritical selective outrage, it looks silly.

17 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

They didn't indiscrimately send them to brutal foreign prisons or confine them in conditions that regularly earned stern rebukes from judges.

Such a heart bleed for criminals. No hope, sorry.

18 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And back then, ICE wasn't repeatedly rebuked by judges for testilying.

Back then there weren’t leftist organizations that want to tear down the US funding legal firms and gaming the system pushing bogus law suits that only a left wingnut extremest judge would except. Back then, the left actually understood how the world works and weren’t out to wreck a country because the media's mind control virus

23 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Is it a destabilizing situation? It looks to me like the loss of workers and their contribution to the American economy has been a destabilizing situation.

Tell us how illegal alien murderers, sex offenders, and gangbangers contribute to the American economy

14 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Is it a destabilizing situation? It looks to me like the loss of workers and their contribution to the American economy has been a destabilizing situation.

Yes, it is destabilizing for a country to have millions of people who's allegiance is to foreign nations. The approx. 15 million unauthorized migrants are unlikely to be loyal to the host. They are a potential source of unrest.

Ok, so some Texas builders are complaining. Their profit margins have been hurt. For a progressive, you sure don't care about the workers. How many of those workers were covered by Workers Compensation, or Employer Health Benefits? If injured, they got tossed like refuse. They had no labor rights and were often abused. Those skilled workers could have been made legal, but the construction industry dragged its backside in helping move the visa changes. They didn't want to pay the H2B visa fees and they didn't want the cost of having to pay the workers a fair wage and the workers comp.It'ds always someone else's fault. Well, those builders can take a haircut, because they were already marking up their crappy homes and disappearing whenever the defects started appearing. Lots of builders played by the rules and treated their workers appropriately.They were penalized by the people who screwed around.

The left Political authority wants a heads up in sanctuary jurisdictions before Immigration & Customs targeted operations commence.

6 minutes ago, novacova said:

ICE is no different now than it was then. The only difference now is the media has gotten you and the left all railed up about the norm which now is the result of a problem exasperated by the previous administration. Though you already know this, so stop pretending with the disingenuous hypocritical selective outrage, it looks silly.

Such a heart bleed for criminals. No hope, sorry.

Back then there weren’t leftist organizations that want to tear down the US funding legal firms and gaming the system pushing bogus law suits that only a left wingnut extremest judge would except. Back then, the left actually understood how the world works and weren’t out to wreck a country because the media's mind control virus

Have you ever seen a riot or a protest for the many victims caused by criminal illegals who migrated unlawfully between border entries ?

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Yes, it is destabilizing for a country to have millions of people who's allegiance is to foreign nations. The approx. 15 million unauthorized migrants are unlikely to be loyal to the host. They are a potential source of unrest.

Ok, so some Texas builders are complaining. Their profit margins have been hurt. For a progressive, you sure don't care about the workers. How many of those workers were covered by Workers Compensation, or Employer Health Benefits? If injured, they got tossed like refuse. They had no labor rights and were often abused. Those skilled workers could have been made legal, but the construction industry dragged its backside in helping move the visa changes. They didn't want to pay the H2B visa fees and they didn't want the cost of having to pay the workers a fair wage and the workers comp.It'ds always someone else's fault. Well, those builders can take a haircut, because they were already marking up their crappy homes and disappearing whenever the defects started appearing. Lots of builders played by the rules and treated their workers appropriately.They were penalized by the people who screwed around.

Unlikely to be loyal? What does that mean? Are they privy to top secrets? "They are a potential source of unrest". Really? Ya got any evidence for that? America has had millions of illegal aliens here for decades. Where's the unrest that they have caused? The Cato Institute did a study that showed illegal aliens are half as likely to commit serious crimes as native-born Americans. They hardly seem like a cohort given to unrest.

Who says I don't care about the workers? I just reported on the economic effects of deportation.

And unless you provide evidence that illegal aliens were contributing to the poor workmanship of American homes more so than American workers, I'm going to treat your claim as fiction.

8 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Yes, it is destabilizing for a country to have millions of people who's allegiance is to foreign nations. The approx. 15 million unauthorized migrants are unlikely to be loyal to the host. They are a potential source of unrest.

Ok, so some Texas builders are complaining. Their profit margins have been hurt. For a progressive, you sure don't care about the workers. How many of those workers were covered by Workers Compensation, or Employer Health Benefits? If injured, they got tossed like refuse. They had no labor rights and were often abused. Those skilled workers could have been made legal, but the construction industry dragged its backside in helping move the visa changes. They didn't want to pay the H2B visa fees and they didn't want the cost of having to pay the workers a fair wage and the workers comp.It'ds always someone else's fault. Well, those builders can take a haircut, because they were already marking up their crappy homes and disappearing whenever the defects started appearing. Lots of builders played by the rules and treated their workers appropriately.They were penalized by the people who screwed around.

Some good points. Many of those benefits you mentioned that they are not receiving would cross into all jobs they were working.

12 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Tell us how illegal alien murderers, sex offenders, and gangbangers contribute to the American economy

Tell me native born American murders, sex offenders, and gangbangers contribute to the American economy.

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Tell me native born American murders, sex offenders, and gangbangers contribute to the American economy.

They dont. They are arrested and incarcerated. Thats a totally stupid comparison.

19 minutes ago, novacova said:

ICE is no different now than it was then. The only difference now is the media has gotten you and the left all railed up about the norm which now is the result of a problem exasperated by the previous administration. Though you already know this, so stop pretending with the disingenuous hypocritical selective outrage, it looks silly.

Really? Are you reporting from an alternate reality. Here's what AI has to say about it.

• Targeting All Undocumented Individuals: Under the previous administration, ICE prioritized individuals who posed a threat to national security or public safety. The current administration has rescinded these memos, making anyone without legal status subject to arrest and removal.

• Decline in Criminal Conviction Share: Reports show that the percentage of detainees with criminal convictions has dropped (from 65% in late 2024 to approximately 35% by late 2025), as ICE increasingly arrests individuals with only immigration violations.

• Removal of "Sensitive Locations" Protections: Previous directives that protected areas like schools, hospitals, and places of worship from enforcement actions have been rolled back, allowing for arrests in or near these locations.

2. Operational Tactics and Field Methods

ICE has adopted several "force multiplier" tactics to increase the volume of arrests:

• Concealed Identity: Agents have increasingly been reported wearing masks, civilian clothing, and using unmarked vehicles during community arrests to prevent identification and evade counter-surveillance by activists.

• "Surge" Operations: DHS has launched high-profile operations in specific cities, such as Operation Midway Blitz (Chicago/Midwest) and Operation Metro Surge (Minneapolis), involving thousands of arrests in short periods.

• Plain-Clothes Arrests at Courthouses: There has been a resurgence of agents in plain clothes arresting individuals appearing for scheduled immigration or local court hearings.

3. Worksite Enforcement and Raids

Workplace raids, which were largely suspended under the Biden administration, have returned as a primary method of enforcement.

• Massive Operations: In September 2025, ICE conducted what it called the largest single-site worksite raid in its history at a Hyundai battery plant in Georgia, resulting in nearly 500 arrests.

• Industry Targeting: Raids have focused on industries like construction, meatpacking, agriculture, and hospitality.

4. Legal and Procedural Changes

The administration is using "fast-track" legal mechanisms to bypass traditional court proceedings:

• Expedited Removal Expansion: ICE is utilizing "expedited removal" powers to the fullest extent authorized by law, allowing for the deportation of individuals without a hearing before an immigration judge if they cannot prove they have lived in the U.S. for at least two years.

• 287(g) Program Expansion: The administration has signed hundreds of new agreements with local sheriffs and police departments, deputizing local officers to perform the functions of federal immigration agents.

• Mass Detention Infrastructure: A significant portion of the $45 billion provided by the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" (2025) has been allocated to building "soft-sided" detention facilities (tent camps) to support the surge in arrests.

Let all the illegals leave the USA and deport them if not.

Once they are all gone, and when all the firms will have to replace them with legal-locals asking double the wage for all the non gratyfing jobs that are nevertheless pillars of the economy, let's see how it goes.

This does not only concern the USA, it also concerns any European nation.

Let's hope that Ai and robotics take over rapidly, such as not having to depend so extensively on cheap illegal labour to run most of the western economies.

On a different note, why do they not sent in the US Army with ICE in all the gangland infested areas of major US metros and deport the entire hoards of the real criminals ? Because, I do not see any glory in apprehending and deporting a harmless illegal housemaid or kitchen aid.

24 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Why the cult leader, in which you believe so much, doesn't have a plan?

C'mon. You don't like the Trump strategy. Fine. You were asked what your alternative is that will address the problems and that will deliver the immediate results needed. You cannot and instead you come up with the response of schoolyard toddler.

Yes, The Trump immigration strategy could be improved, but who is willing to work with the administration to do that? Immigration policy is kryptonite to both parties. The only administration which has crushed the number of unauthorized migrants entering the USA, has been the Trump administration. And the people being removed are not coming back as they did previously.

1 hour ago, NorthernRyland said:

It's not a problem in their eyes. These are desperate people seeking a better life and you're an evil white racist for denying them that. Any actions you take to stop them just further prove their point about how evil and racist you are.

I disagree with you. Why should the US have a more friendly open border policy compared with other countries in the world? Calling people racist because they want laws and policies enforced borders on bigotery. We are having serious housing problems in Canada exactly because we allow anyone to come whether legal or not and they are treated better than Canadian seniors who have cotributed to the CPP (canadian pension plan) all their lives.

I put to you @NorthernRyland and is that equitable? Bigotery comes in many forms.

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@markhatchette1809

2 months ago

This cancer needs to be cut out quickly.

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@grizzlyridge4379

2 months ago

This is so gross. Disgusting behavior by our Liberal Government. Shame.

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@sherryturcotte9360

2 months ago

SO WHY ARE THEY PAYING FOR IMMIGRANTS WHEN WE HAVE SENIOR CANADIANS LIVING IN THEIR CARS AND IN TENTS!!! WTF

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

They dont. They are arrested and incarcerated. Thats a totally stupid comparison.

So you mean illegal aliens who are murderers, sex offenders, and gangbangers don't get arrested and incarcerated? Do they have get-out-of-jail-free cards?