2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

All part of getting what he wanted, and it worked, The guys a businessman, regardless of whether you like him or not , you just don't understand how he works

Teaching other nations not to trust him when it comes to making deals is how he wanted it to work out? Being seen to back down is how he wanted it to work out? Is there no TACO too far for you?

2 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

So in general Trump can say whatever he wants,

Is called free speech , its written into their constitution, and it allows you to mock and insult the guy you weirdly describe as a dictator. Its under threat these days so enjoy it while you can.

5 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Then comes from the right: "But that was of course only a joke."

It was never "a joke" but it was a "tactical" remark, a key part of him getting the deal that he wanted ,and it worked

You would be one of the first to beg for the US to get involved if china or russia annexed greenland

8 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

All part of getting what he wanted, and it worked, The guys a businessman, regardless of whether you like him or not , you just don't understand how he works

Your idea of a businessman is someone who reneges on his deals?

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Teaching other nations not to trust him when it comes to making deals is how he wanted it to work out? Being seen to back down is how he wanted it to work out? Is there no TACO too far for you?

what is TACO I am unfamiliar with that particular lefty slang, ?

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Is called free speech , its written into their constitution, and it allows you to mock and insult the guy you weirdly describe as a dictator. Its under threat these days so enjoy it while you can.

It was never "a joke" but it was a "tactical" remark, a key part of him getting the deal that he wanted ,and it worked

You would be one of the first to beg for the US to get involved if china or russia annexed greenland

Yes you can say whatever he wants. But he did violate two treaties when he refused to rule out a military invasion of Greenland.

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

what is TACO I am unfamiliar with that particular lefty slang, ?

You gotta get out more.

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Your idea of a businessman is someone who reneges on his deals?

In business, reneging on deals is not unheard of in the real world, Particularly in property development which is where President Trump operated results are all that matter and the end always justifies the means

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

In business, reneging on deals is not unheard of in the real world, Particularly in property development which is where President Trump operated results are all that matter and the end always justifies the means

His real estate dealings ended in disaster because banks wouldn't lend him money anymore because of his reneging. He destroyed the real estate empire that his father had built up.

So no, reneging is it really bad tactic since people won't want to do business with you anymore. I don't understand how that cannot be obvious to anyone.

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You gotta get out more.

Why how would that help, I have only ever heard the term TACO used by the sad lefties on this forum, I assume its a baseless childish insult of some sort, and probably personal in nature

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

His real estate dealings ended in disaster because banks wouldn't lend him money anymore because of his reneging. He destroyed the real estate empire that his father had built up.

So no, reneging is it really bad tactic since people won't want to do business with you anymore. I don't understand how that cannot be obvious to anyone.

Perhaps his ascent to President and his personal wealth have something to do with it

I mean , he is considerably more successful than you and most of his other haters. I think that's the issue jealousy is usually ugly

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

Perhaps his ascent to President and his personal wealth have something to do with it

I mean , he is considerably more successful than you and most of his other haters. I think that's the issue jealousy is usually ugly

Making personal allegations is vacuous.

As for Trump's personal wealth, if he had inherited a fortune you wouldn't have much of a point. But since he didn't...oh wait a minute...

5 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

So no, reneging is it really bad tactic since people won't want to do business with you anymore. I don't understand how that cannot be obvious to anyone.

You knowledge of business practice is surprisingly lacking for a know it all. Reneging on deals, lying, bribing and "bankruptcy" are all common practice in that world ,

However nobody takes it personally , as they say "its just business"

4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

You knowledge of business practice is surprisingly lacking for a know it all. Reneging on deals, lying, bribing and "bankruptcy" are all common practice in that world ,

However nobody takes it personally , as they say "its just business"

Once again, banks refused to do business with Trump because of his reneging. He destroyed his father's real estate empire.

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Once again, banks refused to do business with Trump because of his reneging. He destroyed his father's real estate empire.

well you seem to very uncomfortable with Trumps business practices , but strangely much more relaxed regarding , for example the wholesale fraud and embezzlement that has taken place at the hands of the thieving Somalians in Minnesota

13 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Making personal allegations is vacuous.

As for Trump's personal wealth, if he had inherited a fortune you wouldn't have much of a point. But since he didn't...oh wait a minute...

which bit is the vacuous allegation ? that he is more successful and wealthier than you ? or that you might be just a little bit jealous?

7 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Once again, banks refused to do business with Trump

So the banks are now occupying the moral high ground as the bastions of good business practice and honesty are they ? That's a novel point of view

46 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

All part of getting what he wanted, and it worked, The guys a businessman, regardless of whether you like him or not , you just don't understand how he works

So what did he get?

"Now rather amusingly every post I make on pretty much any thread is enthusiastically and very quickly downvoted , by one of the bedwetters, are you involved?"
Amusingly, but feeling the need to mention emojis on a regular basis.

53 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

All part of getting what he wanted, and it worked, The guys a businessman, regardless of whether you like him or not , you just don't understand how he works

Did he get Greenland? 😆

12 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

So the banks are now occupying the moral high ground as the bastions of good business practice and honesty are they ? That's a novel point of view

Totally irrelevant. Banks are about making money.. If they can't trust someone, they won't do business with them. That simple.

15 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

which bit is the vacuous allegation ? that he is more successful and wealthier than you ? or that you might be just a little bit jealous?

Ascribing motivation to someone is not only vacuous but irrelevant. As the mods repeatedly have to advise certain members, stick to the issues. And the issue is not about me. Maybe you should find a forum where you can post threads about the inner life of members. But this isn't it.

Trump was talking BS at Davos and made himself ridiculous again! 😅

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/01/21/greenland-nato-and-war-fact-checking-trumps-davos-speech

31 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Amusingly, but feeling the need to mention emojis on a regular basis.

I often mention things that I find amusing regularly, like jokes for example ,most people do , its perfectly normal, but I would not expect people like you to understand anything about that side of life, Lefties are not exactly reknowned for their sense of humour , quite the opposite in fact

24 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Ascribing motivation to someone is not only vacuous but irrelevant. As the mods repeatedly have to advise certain members, stick to the issues. And the issue is not about me. Maybe you should find a forum where you can post threads about the inner life of members. But this isn't it.

very knowledgeable about forum rules for a Johnny come lately aren't we? Have you been reading the rules? Maybe you should stop responding to my posts, I would then have no reason to reply

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

very knowledgeable about forum rules for a Johnny come lately aren't we? Have you been reading the rules? Maybe you should stop responding to my posts, I would then have no reason to reply

Or maybe you can stop taking cheap and irrelevant shots.

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Why how would that help, I have only ever heard the term TACO used by the sad lefties on this forum, I assume its a baseless childish insult of some sort, and probably personal in nature

I suppose it's understandable you wouldn't know the term TACO.

The genesis of the term is from Wall Street hedge fund managers who always knew Trump is an idiot, and when he says or does something stupid that rattles the markets, he always backs down, or to fit TACO, "chickens out".

The folks who coined the entirely appropriate term are not necessarily "lefties", they're just rational and know how to read a fool.

Trump "“stayed a little back, a little off the frontlines” - this man could crawl under the body of a snake

Here's Trumpian "logic", mixed with lies, from his bizarre Fidel Castro-length derailed train of thoughts at Davos:

He again demonstrated his 820 SAT score by talking of having lowered drug prices by 700, 800%. Later in the speech he claimed 2000%. He also made up a story about telling Macron what to do so that the US gets what Trump calls "most favored nation" and thus the lowest drug prices in the world.

Now consider....two ways the US could have the lowest drug prices. One is to actually lower drug prices, which has not happened, even though Trump claimed it has. The second is for everyone else in the world to RAISE their drug prices. Trump claims he told Macron to "raise the price of that pill from $10 to $20 or $30...maybe even $40 dollars. Not sure what pill it was, and not quite sure if Trump means the real Emanuel Macron or the "guy in Paris, my friend Bill", from 2016 campaign hallucinations/lies.

Now this may not be true, but I heard that with his latest financial wizardry on how to get the lowest drug prices (by others raising theirs), Stockholm put Trump on the short list for the Economics Nobel. I mean, is the guy a stable genius or what! Then again, Trump could be on the short list for the Golden Globes "Best Comedy Performance by a Demented Fool".

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

So the banks are now occupying the moral high ground as the bastions of good business practice and honesty are they ? That's a novel point of view

Since you stated you like humor, isn't it funny that many banks do business with heinous dictators, drug lords, La Camorra, terrorists, Russian Bratva members....as well as blue chip companies and everyone from fund managers to venture capitalists....but they refuse to do business with Trump.

They have to draw the line somewhere. Even Swiss Banks wouldn't stoop that low.

I came across this description of Trump recently and thought how true it is.

The widely circulated Trump critique by Oliver Kornetzke reads:

"Behold. The festering carcass of American rot shoved into an ill-fitting suit: the sleaze of a conman, the cowardice of a draft dodger, the gluttony of a parasite, the racism of a Klansman, the sexism of a back-alley creep, the ignorance of a bar-stool drunk, and the greed of a hedge-fund ghoul—all spray-painted orange and paraded like a prize hog at a county fair.

Not a president. Not even a man. Just the diseased distillation of everything this country swears it isn’t but has always been—arrogance dressed up as exceptionalism, stupidity passed off as common sense, cruelty sold as toughness, greed exalted as ambition, and corruption worshiped like gospel.

It is America’s shadow made flesh, a rotting pumpkin idol proving that when a nation kneels before money, power, and spite, it doesn’t just lose its soul—it <deleted>s out this bloated obscenity and calls it a leader."

24 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

I came across this description of Trump recently and thought how true it is.

The widely circulated Trump critique by Oliver Kornetzke reads:

"Behold. The festering carcass of American rot shoved into an ill-fitting suit: the sleaze of a conman, the cowardice of a draft dodger, the gluttony of a parasite, the racism of a Klansman, the sexism of a back-alley creep, the ignorance of a bar-stool drunk, and the greed of a hedge-fund ghoul—all spray-painted orange and paraded like a prize hog at a county fair.

Not a president. Not even a man. Just the diseased distillation of everything this country swears it isn’t but has always been—arrogance dressed up as exceptionalism, stupidity passed off as common sense, cruelty sold as toughness, greed exalted as ambition, and corruption worshiped like gospel.

It is America’s shadow made flesh, a rotting pumpkin idol proving that when a nation kneels before money, power, and spite, it doesn’t just lose its soul—it <deleted>s out this bloated obscenity and calls it a leader."

Was that Oliver Kornetzke or Melania?

Astonishingly accurate.