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The War against America Starts in Minnesota

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8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And to claim he said he had no knowledge of it when it was clear when he made clear in the interview that he had heard of it, is to lie.

Silly and dubious technicality. The fact is you claimed it was popular and it was definitely not popular. In fact it was very unpopular. In other words you lied.

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    I will say this for your source. At least it wasn't a video. But it mainly consists of speculation from anonymous sources. If this is your idea of what constitutes "facts", it is to laugh.

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4 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Silly and dubious technicality. The fact is you claimed it was popular and it was definitely not popular. In fact it was very unpopular. In other words you lied.

More dishonesty from you. I never said it was popular.

What I said was: "You are not being truthful. Trump did not deny any knowledge of Project 2025, he said he had not read it, and knew nothing about it.

And Project 2025 was not very unpopular among the American electorate; it is very unpopular with the American left. I think 90% of it is great."

In other words, you are lying.

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

More dishonesty from you. I never said it was popular.

What I said was: "You are not being truthful. Trump did not deny any knowledge of Project 2025, he said he had not read it, and knew nothing about it.

And Project 2025 was not very unpopular among the American electorate; it is very unpopular with the American left. I think 90% of it is great."

In other words, you are lying.

Well, in that case we're both liars because you claimed it was not very unpopular. It clearly was.

9 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Silly and dubious technicality. The fact is you claimed it was popular and it was definitely not popular. In fact it was very unpopular. In other words you lied.

You want to lie, and then when you get called out for lying, say it's a technicality. It is not a technicality, it is dishonest.

Project 2025 is over 900 pages. Do you really think Trump knew what was in it?

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Well, in that case we're both liars because you claimed it was not very unpopular. It clearly was.

I did not call you a liar, I said you lied.

In any event, I stipulated it was/is very unpopular with the left, correct? Let's say that's 50% of the country. What have you provided that shows it was/is very unpopular with the other half of the country?

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You want to lie, and then when you get called out for lying, say it's a technicality. It is not a technicality, it is dishonest.

Project 2025 is over 900 pages. Do you really think Trump knew what was in it?

There were plenty of articles and newscasts about it. Plenty of takeaways. Are you claiming Trump doesn't watch TV? No need to read the thing at all.

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

I did not call you a liar, I said you lied.

In any event, I stipulated it was/is very unpopular with the left, correct? Let's say that's 50% of the country. What have you provided that shows it was/is very unpopular with the other half of the country?

You said it wasn't very unpopular. I showed you evidence that it was. Nowhere did you say that it was only unpopular with some portion of the country.

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

You said it wasn't very unpopular. I showed you evidence that it was. Nowhere did you say that it was only unpopular with some portion of the country.

My mistake.

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You said it wasn't very unpopular. I showed you evidence that it was. Nowhere did you say that it was only unpopular with some portion of the country.

Actually, it was very unpopular across the board:

"Voters who identify as "MAGA Republicans" reported viewing Project 2025 in a slightly more positive light, with 28% saying they held negative views and 9% saying they view the plan positively."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-project-2025-broadly-known-severely-unpopular-voters-rcna172660

4 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

There were plenty of articles and newscasts about it. Plenty of takeaways. Are you claiming Trump doesn't watch TV? No need to read the thing at all.

What I saw on TV (and this forum) about Project 2025, was mostly nonsense. Trump indicated in the same (I think) interview that he intentionally did not read or want to know anything about it, because he did not want to answer questions about it.

He knew that the left would start hammering him countless questions, and that every question would deceptively paint Project 2025 as the "end of democracy" like the left always does.

Do you believe Trump knew enough about it to effectively field questions?

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What I saw on TV (and this forum) about Project 2025, was mostly nonsense. Trump indicated in the same (I think) interview that he intentionally did not read or want to know anything about it, because he did not want to answer questions about it.

He knew that the left would start hammering him countless questions, and that every question would deceptively paint Project 2025 as the "end of democracy" like the left always does.

Do you believe Trump knew enough about it to effectively field questions?

He had to have known enough to make his denial a lie. It's not like he doesn't compulsively watch the news And what a crock of ***** you are offering. What does that say about him that he denied knowing anything about what turned out to be huge part of his Presidency because he was afraid to answer questions? You mean it was just some huge coincidence that polling showed it to be unpopular? It is to laugh.

17 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

He had to have known enough to make his denial a lie. It's not like he doesn't compulsively watch the news And what a crock of ***** you are offering. What does that say about him that he denied knowing anything about what turned out to be huge part of his Presidency because he was afraid to answer questions? You mean it was just some huge coincidence that polling showed it to be unpopular? It is to laugh.

If I ever heard the left getting worked up about anyone on the left lying, which they do incessantly, I might giver more of a sh*t, but those days are long gone.

You can't lie and lie and lie and then expect people to get worked up when you try to claim your opponent is lying.

In the same way, I despise all the vulgarity, nastiness and name-calling, but that started with left, not with Trump.

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Greatest blank hole? Nah,that's what systemic progressives turned Minnesota into by letting the border flood with terrorists, murderers, and drug cartels under Biden/Harris. Millions poured in, 600k+ criminal aliens roaming free, hundreds of innocent Americans killed,no candlelight vigils from Walz, Ellison,Mayor Frey or their anarchist/communist crew for those victims.

On 1/28/2026 at 1:12 PM, Yagoda said:

So you deny that the anti ICE actions are organized, and deny that they receive foreign funding. Got it.

When ICE finally cleans house and obstructionists get arrested & jailed during mid chaos,it will be mission accomplished .The left needs to Cry harder . The real destruction of 250 years of greatness came from the *Marxist playbook shielding criminals. God speed to deportations,law & order & winning now. Lets hope Sanctuary policies that enable criminals get destroyed.

* google ai overview:

"Marxist criminology views the criminal justice system as a tool for the ruling class (bourgeoisie) to protect their property and maintain power, often by labeling working-class actions as criminal while overlooking corporate crimes. It argues that capitalism creates crime-inducing conditions, suggesting that crime is a rational response to poverty and inequality"

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

If I ever heard the left getting worked up about anyone on the left lying, which they do incessantly, I might giver more of a sh*t, but those days are long gone.

You can't lie and lie and lie and then expect people to get worked up when you try to claim your opponent is lying.

In the same way, I despise all the vulgarity, nastiness and name-calling, but that started with left, not with Trump.

In other words, you've got nothing.

28 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

In other words, you've got nothing.

In other words, you gave it your best and were found wanting, so now you run away.

Go with God brother,

After follow the local and state police in US in YouTube im not sure if they r any better to the people in US then ICE to foreigners.Violence is the answer even u start denying a traffic ticket.

U can be beaten up.. tased or even killed by these polce tugs.Some planting drugs or say u DUI without any reason.The racist police is the real bad guys.Beating up people in wheelchairs and so on.The female police is even worse.

3 hours ago, norsurin said:

Beating up people in wheelchairs and so on.

That's pure fiction.

Spielberg couldn't make this stuff up.

Good news. Mass arrests ordered by Homan.

On 1/30/2026 at 8:44 PM, NanLaew said:

Fraud? What fraud?

Here you go, big boy.

What's it like going through life being completely delusional?

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Guess its possible to deport criminal aliens without a hassle.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-arrests-over-650-illegal-aliens-across-west-virginia-state-local-police-backing

Maybe screeching Socialists arent welcome in WV

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Here you go, big boy.

What's it like going through life being completely delusional?

Thanks for that (at last). Truly shocking.

As for being delusional, no idea. You tell me.

26 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Thanks for that (at last). Truly shocking.

As for being delusional, no idea. You tell me.

Here, watch this now.

Gotta educate you kids.

At 2:47 of the video, they are blocking the road. The cop has to ask nicely for them to remove the barricades, but they refuse. That's illegal and the cop has orders from higher up, so he can't stop them. Then they laugh as the cop walks away and say "Jacob sent us here" (ie the Mayor).

The moral of the story is that this is complete (organized) lawlessness. This guy brings up the point that other vigilante groups of citizens might start to take matters in their own hands and start clashing violently with the anti-ICE group. The roads are not only blocked for ICE, but also for ambulances and people trying to get to work.

It is amusing that the leftist mayor of Minneapolis gives an impassioned speech about how "in America", we are against "might makes right", and then he encourages his constituents to riot and terrorize the community until they get their way.

Hypocrisy, thy name is lefty.

On 2/1/2026 at 1:19 AM, Yagoda said:

The Courts arent going to stop ICE and ICE isnt going to back down

https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-judge-rejects-minnesota-request-block-ice-led-operation-metro-surge

Bottom line realty! Despite the Communist/Marxist fronts participation in a confederate /rebal obstruction /rioting and attacks on federal law enforcement. The feds rule Supreme.

Federal judge rejects Minnesota request to block ICE-led Operation Metro Surge

https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-judge-rejects-minnesota-request-block-ice-led-operation-metro-surge

29 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It is amusing that the leftist mayor of Minneapolis gives an impassioned speech about how "in America", we are against "might makes right", and then he encourages his constituents to riot and terrorize the community until they get their way.

Hypocrisy, thy name is lefty.

Indeed Hypocrisy. His Comrade the Marxist Mayor Johnson in Chicago knows the federal law is supreme,they know they can raise money off their destructive insurrection rhetoric and still repeats intimidation to spike up dissension despite his approval rating below 20 % .

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-mayor-brandon-johnson-puts-ice-on-notice-with-executive-order-seeking-prosecution-of-agents

google ai overview:

"Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson faces significantly low approval ratings as of early 2026, with recent polls indicating support between 6.6% and 14%, while unfavorable ratings have reached up to 80%. Voters have expressed disapproval over his handling of crime, public safety, and his close alignment with the Chicago Teachers Union"

Amazing how there are all these frothy descriptors for democrats such as lefties, leftist, leftard, libtard, commie, radical, insurrectionist (lol), screeching socialists (thanx @Yagoda ), whereas there's simply only one word for those of the opposite persuasion.

Delusional.

On 1/31/2026 at 3:24 PM, Yellowtail said:

In the same way, I despise all the vulgarity, nastiness and name-calling, but that started with left, not with Trump.

I guess you weren't really paying attention way back around 2016?

"Lyin' Ted" and "Little Marco" and "Crooked Hillary" and "Crazy Bernie" and "Goofy Elizabeth Warren" etc., etc.

Since then, Trump and his acolytes have finessed the name-calling into a fine art.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/crooked-hillary-marco-donald-trumps-nicknames/story?id=39035114

As I said earlier, delusional.

14 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Here, watch this now.

Gotta educate you kids.

At 2:47 of the video, they are blocking the road. The cop has to ask nicely for them to remove the barricades, but they refuse. That's illegal and the cop has orders from higher up, so he can't stop them. Then they laugh as the cop walks away and say "Jacob sent us here" (ie the Mayor).

The moral of the story is that this is complete (organized) lawlessness. This guy brings up the point that other vigilante groups of citizens might start to take matters in their own hands and start clashing violently with the anti-ICE group. The roads are not only blocked for ICE, but also for ambulances and people trying to get to work.

You seriously believe that there are 'vigilantes' who will come out to counter the ant-ICE protesters?

Seriously delusional.

16 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Amazing how there are all these frothy descriptors for democrats such as lefties, leftist, leftard, libtard, commie, radical, insurrectionist (lol), screeching socialists (thanx @Yagoda ), whereas there's simply only one word for those of the opposite persuasion.

Delusional.

I guess you weren't really paying attention way back around 2016?

"Lyin' Ted" and "Little Marco" and "Crooked Hillary" and "Crazy Bernie" and "Goofy Elizabeth Warren" etc., etc.

Since then, Trump and his acolytes have finessed the name-calling into a fine art.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/crooked-hillary-marco-donald-trumps-nicknames/story?id=39035114

As I said earlier, delusional.

The left started the nastiness long before 2016.

When did you start paying attention?

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