What to expect in a country where you can bail out of any Police roadblock-checkpoint for 500 to 1000 THB ? Those who violate the law get away. As usual, it's the decent people, usually foreigners, who get stopped, and the racket starts with all kinds of absurd invented fines.

8 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I know, hence my post, tell him, not me.

I did.

The extremely loud bikes..they're such a nuisance. I moved to south Jomtien to get away from all the noise..and for now, I'm lucky I don't hear too many outside my condo.

Just for the heck of it I took my own survey. I took a 30-45 minute walk to Food Mart and counted how many..

1. way too loud bikes(average about one per minute)

2. extremely loud bikes(average about one every 4-5 minutes)

I can't imagine what it's like to live in Pattaya. It's beyond tolerable, can't even walk down the street. A lot of other "little" annoying things are adding up too lol. I went to visit friends in Bangkok last week, at least people know how to dress.

I don't know, I'm travelling out of country a lot this year I'm going to keep my mind open about moving.

6 hours ago, newnative said:

Double glazing generally makes a room more comfortable, not hotter. While it excels at trapping heat inside during winter to reduce heating costs, it also acts as a barrier that limits hot air from entering during summer, keeping rooms cooler. It reduces heat transfer, not increases it, despite common misconceptions.

Please allow me to walk back part of my comment. I was thinking of my office, or the walkway entrance in my friend's home, which is a very tall window.I did not consider that this was a residential property with small windows. I should have added the preface "on larger windows", and the condition of south facing rooms.

Solar Heat Gain: Even with high-performance, low-emissivity (Low-E) coatings designed to reflect infrared light, south-facing, floor-to-ceiling windows can create excessive temperatures in the living space.

In larger buildings, while double-pane windows with Argon gas and Low-E coatings are designed to improve insulation and reduce heat transfer, they often fail to handle the intensity of solar gain in "glass-walled" units.

The use of double glazed windows necessitates ensuring that there is ventilation and that the HVAC system can manage the heat load when the windows are closed. If the HVAC system cannot keep up with the solar load, it will cause rooms to exceed comfortable temperatures even when air conditioning is running.

12 hours ago, Sigmund said:

What to expect in a country where you can bail out of any Police roadblock-checkpoint for 500 to 1000 THB ? Those who violate the law get away. As usual, it's the decent people, usually foreigners, who get stopped, and the racket starts with all kinds of absurd invented fines.

Haven't been stopped at a roadblock in Pattaya area for years! My 3 or 4 year old licences haven't been taken out except to get my BigC discount! Only place I saw a policeman was on Beach Rd, in front of the station, the usual flagging down of idiot tourists without helmets. It is obvious the town is getting unconcerned and violates the rules without a thought nowadays, 3 up on a M/Cycle not a helmet between them down any main road.

On 2/5/2026 at 5:05 PM, SAFETY FIRST said:

Thailand has been my home for over 20 years, this issue you've addressed has always been here.

Why did you move here, now you are complaining?

It's getting much worse not on Thailand but in Australia too

I'm seeing 3 people to a bike at times with no helmets

Loud motorbikes particularly in Sydney and Melbourne.

No one cares it seems the world has gone mad ,it's anything goes

E bikes , loud bikes

It appears this generation of law makers don't care .

Nature takes its course

They end up being killed

Reading all these posts on horribly loud motorcycles reminded me of a December trip my spouse and I took to Shanghai. Huge city, population of 25 million, or 30 million if you include the suburbs.

I felt like I had stepped into a city 10 years in the future. Why? All the motorcycles were electric and I would say a majority of the cars. You could tell the electric cars as they have green license plates and gas cars still have blue plates. The blues were mostly European, American, and Japanese vehicles and the greens were mostly Chinese, although some of the foreign makes were starting to have some vehicles. Buick has a new Electra model--absolutely love the revival of a nameplate from the past, and so perfect!

Walking around the center city areas was a relevation. There was hardly any traffic noise except for beeps from the super-quiet motorbikes warning people they were behind them. Walking down the streets, you could easily carry on a conversation and hear each other talking without having to shout, which we sometimes have to do when we are walking on a Bangkok street. Pity more cities aren't following China's lead and banning gas motorcycles and restricting or heavily taxing gas vehicles--it would be heaven for the city's residents.

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

It's getting much worse not on Thailand but in Australia too

I'm seeing 3 people to a bike at times with no helmets

Loud motorbikes particularly in Sydney and Melbourne.

No one cares it seems the world has gone mad ,it's anything goes

E bikes , loud bikes

It appears this generation of law makers don't care .

I'd say mostly due to poor parenting.

I rent a 48sqm furnished condo very high up with pool and gym on Sai3.

Yes noisy especially ambulances that come by every half hour and the monthly Thai music festival on a nearby plot.

Lived in Thailand 20 years so it don't bother me.

Because of the noise I pay 100.000 / year in rent, great deal for me.

There is only four out of twelve units occupied on my floor.

If noise bothering you, get a fan, can't sleep without the white noise

On 2/7/2026 at 8:22 AM, newnative said:

My sister is a realtor and one of her favorite sayings is, 'There's a buyer for every property'. She used the example of what she thought was a very unattractive house she listed that had what she thought was a different horrible wallpaper pattern in every room. She thought it would be a struggle to find a buyer but, soon enough, she showed the house and a buyer loved the different wallpaper and bought the house on the spot.

There's a buyer for your condo. If the street noise is even very noticeable inside with the sliders and windows closed, you should consider better windows that block the sound more. If it's ok inside when they are closed, don't bother.

Then, do two things, price it correctly, possibly with the help of a few realtors. Second, make sure you list it with every single agency you can find. You need maximum exposure and Thailand does not have a multiple listing service (MLS). I would consider offering an agent bonus, along with the 5% commission. Send an email to all the realtors that you can find, with a good description and good photos. The last property we sold, I think I sent the listing to over 30 agencies.

It might take some time but a buyer will be along at some point. Make sure the condo is in tip-top condition, everything works, and declutter to the max before you take the photos. Always have it ready to be shown with a few minutes notice. Good luck!

Well if that's all your sister said she probably isn't selling much real estate

At the right price - there's a buyer for every property

49 minutes ago, Nurf said:

Well if that's all your sister said she probably isn't selling much real estate

At the right price - there's a buyer for every property

She had much to say about real estate--I just picked out one of them appropriate to the thread. She was very successful, but it was long hours, working many weekends, and a lot of patience--with both buyers and sellers--involved. But, now retired and easily a millionaire probably several times over, she absolutely loved her job, and she was perfect for it.

I always say I am much too lazy and impatient to ever be a real estate agent. But, I certainly value them and they have contributed greatly to my spouse and I selling 30some properties here and in the US.

I agree with your second statement. Pricing a property at the right price is important--I mentioned that in my earlier post.

2 hours ago, newnative said:

I always say I am much too lazy and impatient to ever be a real estate agent

Finally admitted you never worked a day in your life. Bravo !

5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Finally admitted you never worked a day in your life. Bravo !

Yes, indeed, GG, at this point in my life, at age 74, way too lazy and impatient to be a real estate agent. Not for me. But, I did work in the USA for 35 years, sometimes working 2 jobs, while buying, renovating, and selling 9 condos on the side, one by one. Since retiring to Thailand in 2010, have bought, renovated, and sold 23 properties, both houses and condos, with my spouse. Currently living in and fixing up our 24th property while building our 25th, if I've counted correctly. Hmm. Maybe not that lazy.

On 2/7/2026 at 10:43 PM, Furioso said:

The extremely loud bikes..they're such a nuisance. I moved to south Jomtien to get away from all the noise..and for now, I'm lucky I don't hear too many outside my condo.

Just for the heck of it I took my own survey. I took a 30-45 minute walk to Food Mart and counted how many..

1. way too loud bikes(average about one per minute)

2. extremely loud bikes(average about one every 4-5 minutes)

I can't imagine what it's like to live in Pattaya. It's beyond tolerable, can't even walk down the street. A lot of other "little" annoying things are adding up too lol. I went to visit friends in Bangkok last week, at least people know how to dress.

I don't know, I'm travelling out of country a lot this year I'm going to keep my mind open about moving.

This will get Georgie's full attention.

Fully expect to see him, noise meter in hand, gathering statistics for his next academic paper.