34 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Why don't the Obamas just retaliate and make a video about Trump as a gorilla in a zoo?

Trump once sued the comedian Bill Maher, because Maher joked that one of Trump's parents was a baboon.

Trump's racist post about the Obama's was no joke and no "troll of the lefties". It was left up for 12 hours. Trump understands America so little, he thought such a racist meme would resonate with a majority. It has not. THAT is heartening, but the fact that demented racist clown still sits in the Oval Office is an affront to the country and to humanity.

Trump is a disgrace.

Trump has been a racist all his life and certainly all of his political career.

He was coached by his racist KKK adjacent Alzheimer's afflicted father.

I really don't get why there is very much attention to this latest "truth" video.

There are hundreds of anti democracy outrages by the maga fascist Trump regime that are more consequential.

Of course, that's been part of the plan all along -- FLOOD THE ZONE with sheit so that the public just gets exhausted and finds it impossible to keep up with all the outrages.

What is consequential is that the Trump regime has managed to internally destroy all decent values based democratic American institutions in one year compared to what it took Putin decades to accomplish.

He does have skills. EVIL ones.

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Trump is trolling you guys again?

He must be laughing his a** off watching your faces turn purple.

1) It wasn't a troll; it was a display of who he is

2) That you think it's an okay kind of troll or joke says everything about the character you lack

Like father like son.

Yeah, the writing has been on the wall for quite some time. Imagine being a Black Trump supporter and then that video drops.

Som nam naa, as they say.😆

If it took this long for anyone to learn that Trump is a vile racist and has used his racism countless times to advance his career, then they have much bigger cognition problems than to see an imaga of the Obama's as monkeys.

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If it diverts attention away from Epsteinery for 5 minutes, it's a win for Trump.

Where does Trump's name appear in the files? Plenty of Israelites and their Western kinfolk, but I've yet to see anything about Zion Don.

Are facts 'antisemitic'? Because I certainly don't harbour any ill will towards that group who punches way above their weight.

14 minutes ago, flaming dragon said:

Where does Trump's name appear in the files? Plenty of Israelites and their Western kinfolk, but I've yet to see anything about Zion Don.

Try this then.....

Allegations of Trump Raping & Threatening to Kill Children

16 minutes ago, flaming dragon said:

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If it diverts attention away from Epsteinery for 5 minutes, it's a win for Trump.

Where does Trump's name appear in the files? Plenty of Israelites and their Western kinfolk, but I've yet to see anything about Zion Don.

Have you been living under a rock?

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/31/politics/new-documents-trump-epstein

President Donald Trump is mentioned more than 1,000 times in the 3 million Jeffrey Epstein documents released Friday, after the president initially resisted the effort. While some of the references are benign, others include newly disclosed unverified sexual assault claims against Trump as well as fresh details about how some of Epstein’s victims described their interactions with the future president.

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

So you prefer a man who showers with his daughter and sniffs little girls?

Got it!

I'd say, Trump is more like the Americans I meet, and probably represents the average American in a more realistic way.

This what the rest of the world is actually waking up to. Including policy makers, educators and people on the ground and in the shops where I live who used to look up to your rotting country. Including myself who once worked for it and today wouldn't twitch a little finger for it.

77 million of you voted for this calumny which had openly declared itself long before the election. Trump is a symptom of a hideous disease.

The rest of the world is understanding your messaging and where I live we will go it without you. Do you think you're the first country to end up like this in history? Well we've got history. Fortunately, apart from the usual 20-30% residue of fools and bigots you get everywhere, we haven't forgotten it either.

But go on, say it: We're different, we're special, it can't happen to us.

It's happening and you're happy about it.

Enjoy.

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

This is without a doubt true. Only in the US is the dysfunction of the political system and the complete surrender of any morality by the party in power such that a vile criminal like Trump can continue on a president, even after posting something that would have forced a resignation in every other developed country on the planet.

Oh dear...

The claim that the US is "uniquely dysfunctional" because Trump didn't resign after a scandal—and that it "would force resignation in every other developed country"—is absolute BS, a hysterical exaggeration rooted in anti-American bias and ignorance of global politics, as to be expected.

It's not "without a doubt true"; it's demonstrably false, cherry-picking one incident while ignoring a mountain of counterexamples from democracies worldwide where leaders survived far worse racism scandals without stepping down.

This narrative is divisive propaganda that pretends the US is some moral outlier, when in reality, political survival amid controversy is the norm everywhere—even in "enlightened" Europe and beyond.

Finland (a model Nordic democracy): In 2023, Finance Minister Riikka Purra faced massive backlash over old blog posts with clearly racist language (anti-immigrant slurs), yet she declared no plans to step down, insisting neither she nor her party was racist, and stayed in power.

Canada: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau survived a massive 2019 blackface scandal—multiple photos of him in racist makeup emerged during his re-election campaign. Outrage was global, calls for resignation poured in, but he apologized, stayed on, and won re-election.

UK: Boris Johnson survived repeated racism accusations, like comparing Muslim women in burqas to "letterboxes" and "bank robbers"—overtly bigoted comments that sparked fury but didn't end his tenure. He only resigned later over a separate scandal.Hungary (EU member):

Viktor Orbán has built his career on xenophobic, anti-immigrant rhetoric often labeled racist (anti-Soros campaigns with antisemitic undertones).

Despite EU condemnations and scandals, he's won multiple elections and remains in power—no forced resignation.

Australia: Former PM Scott Morrison faced racism allegations over his handling of Indigenous issues and anti-Muslim comments (after Christchurch mosque attack), yet survived until electoral defeat—not scandal-driven resignation.

Even in the US, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (Democrat) survived a 2019 blackface scandal without resigning.

Your claim reeks of hypocrisy.

It singles out the US while whitewashing similar dysfunction elsewhere.

Trump deleted the post, blamed staff, and faced bipartisan backlash—including from Republicans like Tim Scott. Calling him a "vile criminal" over a repost while ignoring leaders like Trudeau or Purra who weathered direct scandals is selective outrage at its worst.

The US system isn't "surrendered morality"—it's resilient democracy where voters, not scandals alone, decide. If this "forces resignation everywhere else," prove it—because facts say otherwise.

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The President of the USA should not post this type of message. Whether in jest (doubtful) or not, it was not appropriate for the office holder. It was intentionally hurtful to too many people, especially people of color. Former President Obama and Michelle Obama should not have been insulted in this manner.

I agree, except that I doubt if Trump was aware of the full content of the VDO when someone shared it.

If you want to worry about hurting people, compare this to the two assassination attempts, just for starters.

This is a textbook example of the "Streisand Effect"

I never would have seen it if it wasn't for the level of outrage it provoked.

The subsequent coverage proved once again the old Hollywood chestnut: "There is no such thing as bad publicity."

Something that seems to pass people by is that this man has absolutely no class. He is an ignorant (comparing himself to Nelson Mandela is a recent act that reveals his lack of self awareness) loud-mouthed tasteless American, who is interested only in himself and no-one and nothing.

This sums him up perfectly:

Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

"A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:*

Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man. This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of bull<deleted>. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

Sorry, but.. how is it possible, the US inhabitants accept such a thing of their president ? Says a lot of these US citizens..

1 minute ago, Harry Vibhavadi said:

Sorry, but.. how is it possible, the US inhabitants accept such a thing of their president ? Says a lot of these US citizens..

Pretty silly post. Most Americans are outraged as shown here. We do have Maga and major Trump supporters not only in America but here on Asean Now who are refusing to condone it. Take your thoughts to them not the Americans who want him gone, hopefully he will be shackled after the November midterms.

1 hour ago, Wingate said:

Trump once sued the comedian Bill Maher, because Maher joked that one of Trump's parents was a baboon.

That isnt quite true .

Bill Maher stated he would give 5 $ M to charity of Trumps choice if Trump could produce his birth certificate showing his Father wasn't an orangutang .

Trump produced his Birth certificate and told Maher to pay up and make the donation

2 hours ago, Wingate said:

Trump once sued the comedian Bill Maher, because Maher joked that one of Trump's parents was a baboon.

Obama is free to sue Trump if it's such a big deal.

Good news for you. Maybe 25% of votes were not even from US citizens?

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Good news for you. Maybe 25% of votes were not even from US citizens?

Are you so far gone that you believe that? If so I have a bridge for you to buy. JHC.

1 hour ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Oh dear...

The claim that the US is "uniquely dysfunctional" because Trump didn't resign after a scandal—and that it "would force resignation in every other developed country"—is absolute BS, a hysterical exaggeration rooted in anti-American bias and ignorance of global politics, as to be expected.

It's not "without a doubt true"; it's demonstrably false, cherry-picking one incident while ignoring a mountain of counterexamples from democracies worldwide where leaders survived far worse racism scandals without stepping down.

This narrative is divisive propaganda that pretends the US is some moral outlier, when in reality, political survival amid controversy is the norm everywhere—even in "enlightened" Europe and beyond.

Finland (a model Nordic democracy): In 2023, Finance Minister Riikka Purra faced massive backlash over old blog posts with clearly racist language (anti-immigrant slurs), yet she declared no plans to step down, insisting neither she nor her party was racist, and stayed in power.

Canada: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau survived a massive 2019 blackface scandal—multiple photos of him in racist makeup emerged during his re-election campaign. Outrage was global, calls for resignation poured in, but he apologized, stayed on, and won re-election.

UK: Boris Johnson survived repeated racism accusations, like comparing Muslim women in burqas to "letterboxes" and "bank robbers"—overtly bigoted comments that sparked fury but didn't end his tenure. He only resigned later over a separate scandal.Hungary (EU member):

Viktor Orbán has built his career on xenophobic, anti-immigrant rhetoric often labeled racist (anti-Soros campaigns with antisemitic undertones).

Despite EU condemnations and scandals, he's won multiple elections and remains in power—no forced resignation.

Australia: Former PM Scott Morrison faced racism allegations over his handling of Indigenous issues and anti-Muslim comments (after Christchurch mosque attack), yet survived until electoral defeat—not scandal-driven resignation.

Even in the US, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (Democrat) survived a 2019 blackface scandal without resigning.

Your claim reeks of hypocrisy.

It singles out the US while whitewashing similar dysfunction elsewhere.

Trump deleted the post, blamed staff, and faced bipartisan backlash—including from Republicans like Tim Scott. Calling him a "vile criminal" over a repost while ignoring leaders like Trudeau or Purra who weathered direct scandals is selective outrage at its worst.

The US system isn't "surrendered morality"—it's resilient democracy where voters, not scandals alone, decide. If this "forces resignation everywhere else," prove it—because facts say otherwise.

AI all the way -I've just cut out the middleman and go straight to Chat etc. Couldn't you at least cut out the double ems' and make an effort ?

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

AI all the way -I've just cut out the middleman and go straight to Chat etc. Couldn't you at least cut out the double ems' and make an effort ?

Here's a snappy reply that acknowledges the AI-generated response and pushes back:

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Ah, I see you've enlisted ChatGPT to fight your battles for you—the tell-tale signs are all there: the formulaic structure, the breathless bullet points, the "demonstrably false" rhetoric that sounds like it came straight from a prompt asking for "a forceful rebuttal."

But since you're outsourcing your arguments to an algorithm, let me return the favor with some actual substance your AI conveniently glossed over:

Your examples don't prove what you think they do. Riikka Purra's old blog posts surfacing isn't comparable to a sitting leader actively sharing racist content. Trudeau faced massive consequences—his approval tanked, he barely survived politically, and it haunts him still. Boris Johnson? He did eventually resign under pressure, and his racist comments contributed to his toxic legacy. Orbán governs an illiberal democracy that the EU regularly condemns as backsliding—hardly the standard we should aspire to.

But here's the real issue your AI-generated wall of text misses: Trump didn't just survive a scandal—he's normalized them. The bar hasn't stayed the same; it's been demolished. What used to end careers now gets a shrug and a "both sides" defense from people who apparently need ChatGPT to make their case for them.

So yes, political leaders survive scandals everywhere. The difference is most don't build entire movements around making scandals irrelevant. If you need an AI to argue otherwise, maybe that tells you something about the strength of your position.

Funny, when the woke left wing, pro illegal, or environmental terrorists or who knows what, spread fake pics of Trump dressed in some nazi outfit, it rarely makes a global uproar.

I must confess to deriving a great deal of entertainment from this thread. Does that make me a troll? Perhaps I should start another account where I pretend to be a semi retarded janitor and spam the board with ridiculous questions. Oops, that's been done already and the members here took the bait: hook line and sinker.

I'd still like to see the files that directly link Trump to any of the Epstein shenanigans. All I've seen, heard, and read thus far is partisan pap.

1 hour ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Oh dear...

The claim that the US is "uniquely dysfunctional" because Trump didn't resign after a scandal—and that it "would force resignation in every other developed country"—is absolute BS, a hysterical exaggeration rooted in anti-American bias and ignorance of global politics, as to be expected.

It's not "without a doubt true"; it's demonstrably false, cherry-picking one incident while ignoring a mountain of counterexamples from democracies worldwide where leaders survived far worse racism scandals without stepping down.

This narrative is divisive propaganda that pretends the US is some moral outlier, when in reality, political survival amid controversy is the norm everywhere—even in "enlightened" Europe and beyond.

Finland (a model Nordic democracy): In 2023, Finance Minister Riikka Purra faced massive backlash over old blog posts with clearly racist language (anti-immigrant slurs), yet she declared no plans to step down, insisting neither she nor her party was racist, and stayed in power.

Canada: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau survived a massive 2019 blackface scandal—multiple photos of him in racist makeup emerged during his re-election campaign. Outrage was global, calls for resignation poured in, but he apologized, stayed on, and won re-election.

UK: Boris Johnson survived repeated racism accusations, like comparing Muslim women in burqas to "letterboxes" and "bank robbers"—overtly bigoted comments that sparked fury but didn't end his tenure. He only resigned later over a separate scandal.Hungary (EU member):

Viktor Orbán has built his career on xenophobic, anti-immigrant rhetoric often labeled racist (anti-Soros campaigns with antisemitic undertones).

Despite EU condemnations and scandals, he's won multiple elections and remains in power—no forced resignation.

Australia: Former PM Scott Morrison faced racism allegations over his handling of Indigenous issues and anti-Muslim comments (after Christchurch mosque attack), yet survived until electoral defeat—not scandal-driven resignation.

Even in the US, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (Democrat) survived a 2019 blackface scandal without resigning.

Your claim reeks of hypocrisy.

It singles out the US while whitewashing similar dysfunction elsewhere.

Trump deleted the post, blamed staff, and faced bipartisan backlash—including from Republicans like Tim Scott. Calling him a "vile criminal" over a repost while ignoring leaders like Trudeau or Purra who weathered direct scandals is selective outrage at its worst.

The US system isn't "surrendered morality"—it's resilient democracy where voters, not scandals alone, decide. If this "forces resignation everywhere else," prove it—because facts say otherwise.

Oh dear....

A poster who's gone all in on letting AI write their posts. Well done!😂

1 minute ago, flaming dragon said:

I must confess to deriving a great deal of entertainment from this thread. Does that make me a troll? Perhaps I should start another account where I pretend to be a semi retarded janitor and spam the board with ridiculous questions. Oops, that's been done already and the members here took the bait: hook line and sinker.

I'd still like to see the files that directly link Trump to any of the Epstein shenanigans. All I've seen, heard, and read thus far is partisan pap.

"I'd still like to see the files that directly link Trump to any of the Epstein shenanigans."

As do we all. Unfortunately, the DOJ are Trump's personal law firms. Hopefully, that fact hasn't escaped you.

36 minutes ago, Harry Vibhavadi said:

Sorry, but.. how is it possible, the US inhabitants accept such a thing of their president ? Says a lot of these US citizens..

For sure, as a majority did vote for him. Things have never changed in the US even before Trump. IT has always been america-first and all those not american, were considered of lower standard. With Trump, the discourse just gets a bit more open as he does not give a hoot on what people think and how it is said.

This should also open the eyes of many nationals who are well educated and have been bootlicking America for ages. It's not for nothing that even before Trump, you see many highly qualified professionnals doctors, dentists, software, IT etc who are leaving America for good, going back to their homelands in Africa or India or Asia, are prospering and really doing very well. Some even have their wealthy american clients-patients who go back to them in their respective homelads, to get the treatment in some posh worldclass clinic in India.

Take the Clintons, Obama's orBush. They have always imposed their dominance on the rest of the world and supported what Israel has been doing for ages in Gaza. So nothing new with Trump here really. OF course, you cannot and never can say all of such or such people are good or bad. No matter where, you will find good and bad people. But in general the domination of America towards the rest of the world has been going on since the end of WW2. Sorry to all my very good american friends - no hard feelings please. 🙏

20 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

you see many highly qualified professionnals doctors, dentists, software, IT etc who are leaving America for good, going back to their homelands in Africa or India or Asia, are prospering and really doing very well.

yeah right.

doctors make easily 250K to 500K or even more in the US.

not many countries come close to those salaries.

same for IT guys.

they would need to take a massive pay cut.

25 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Here's a snappy reply that acknowledges the AI-generated response and pushes back:

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Ah, I see you've enlisted ChatGPT to fight your battles for you—the tell-tale signs are all there: the formulaic structure, the breathless bullet points, the "demonstrably false" rhetoric that sounds like it came straight from a prompt asking for "a forceful rebuttal."

But since you're outsourcing your arguments to an algorithm, let me return the favor with some actual substance your AI conveniently glossed over:

Your examples don't prove what you think they do. Riikka Purra's old blog posts surfacing isn't comparable to a sitting leader actively sharing racist content. Trudeau faced massive consequences—his approval tanked, he barely survived politically, and it haunts him still. Boris Johnson? He did eventually resign under pressure, and his racist comments contributed to his toxic legacy. Orbán governs an illiberal democracy that the EU regularly condemns as backsliding—hardly the standard we should aspire to.

But here's the real issue your AI-generated wall of text misses: Trump didn't just survive a scandal—he's normalized them. The bar hasn't stayed the same; it's been demolished. What used to end careers now gets a shrug and a "both sides" defense from people who apparently need ChatGPT to make their case for them.

So yes, political leaders survive scandals everywhere. The difference is most don't build entire movements around making scandals irrelevant. If you need an AI to argue otherwise, maybe that tells you something about the strength of your position.

Now Smokey I'm doing your work for you ! Claude btw - we should just let our bots hammer away for days answering each other whilst we go out and have a beer and relax in the setting sun. Which I am just about to do.

Oh, how deliciously ironic.

You've just accused me of using AI... by clearly using AI to craft your accusation. The meta-irony is chef's kiss.

Let me guess—you fed ChatGPT a prompt like "write a cutting response that accuses them of using AI while sounding intellectually superior"? Because that little line about "tell-tale signs" and "formulaic structure" is exactly what an AI would say when prompted to detect AI writing. It's AI-generated AI-detection—we've reached singularity, folks.

But sure, let's play this game. You claim my examples "don't prove what I think they do" by... proving exactly what I said: leaders survive racism scandals everywhere. Trudeau "barely survived politically"? He literally won re-election after blackface! Your AI apparently doesn't understand that "barely surviving" by winning an election is still... winning.

And now we've arrived at the beautiful absurdity of this moment: Two people (or ARE we?) arguing about Trump's racism scandal by having our respective AIs argue with each other.

It's AI all the way down, baby. Digital puppets debating digital puppets. Should we just cut out the middlemen and let GPT-4 argue with Claude directly? We could sell tickets. "TONIGHT ONLY: Bot vs Bot—Who Can Generate More Righteous Indignation Per Token?"

The real scandal isn't Trump's retweet—it's that we've both apparently surrendered this entire conversation to algorithms while pretending we're having authentic discourse.

Beep boop, indeed.

I think I read that Trump posts much/most of the social media himself. But occasionally a staffer posts - even then I can't imagine the staffer can post without Trump clearing it. I think I also read some time back that Trump doesn't drink alcohol (maybe aside from a state dinner toast to the host). The reason I mention the latter, is because most of the really unhinged stuff that comes from Trump's social media accounts appears to be posted late evening, and much of it has the whif of drunken rants. His 'Obama ape' post would be a 2+ bottles of wine thing IMO.

2 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

I think I read that Trump posts much/most of the social media himself. But occasionally a staffer posts - even then I can't imagine the staffer can post without Trump clearing it. I think I also read some time back that Trump doesn't drink alcohol (maybe aside from a state dinner toast to the host). The reason I mention the latter, is because most of the really unhinged stuff that comes from Trump's social media accounts appears to be posted late evening, and much of it has the whif of drunken rants. His 'Obama ape' post would be a 2+ bottles of wine thing IMO.

The fact that the President of the most powerful country on earth spends an inordinate amount of time <deleted> posting on his own so called Truth Social whilst stuffing his greasy mouth with McDonalds whilst watching telly in his scrotes is the real scandal here and always was. This pathetic excuse of a man with small hands vibes (nasty , nasty) is an affront to any decent person anywhere at any time. And even if a staffer did it (spoiler alert - they didn't ) - to employ such a cretinous perosn to do that sort of work is yet another scandal. But then they voted in a clown and got a circus.