2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The truth.

Hence the need for a full and open inquiry.

I can’t answer for your string of loaded questions or what you think loaded questions are necessary, unless of course you let the cat out of the bag with your ‘Hint and Deny’.

What is the benefit of an investigation being open?

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Think that be meant that the military response to 9/11 took time to materialize as well

911 was a completely unexpected attack of a kind that had never happened in US history.

Israel, we are told, is under constant threat and has a highly sophisticated security system protecting its militarized borders.

Anyone claiming 911 could have been predicted and averted is doing so with the benefit of hindsight.

The attack of October 7 suggests significant systematic failures in an ‘always ready’ defense.

There is no equivalence between failures to protect against these two terrorist attacks.

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What is the benefit of an investigation being open?

You have a problem with transparency all of a sudden?

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You have a problem with transparency all of a sudden?

Not at all. Did you not understand the question?

On 2/11/2026 at 10:40 AM, liddelljohn said:

In 1948 Gaza has 94,000 population of which 33,000 were jews

Your information is wildly incorrect. Wikipedia says that the Jewish population of Gaza was 150, with 80 living in Gaza City:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Gaza#:~:text=In%20the%201945%20village%20survey,Col.

On 2/10/2026 at 5:30 PM, Yagoda said:

The UN and the ICJ mean nothing.

Time will tell. Various wrongdoers indicted by the ICC are now in jail.

3 minutes ago, placnx said:

Time will tell. Various wrongdoers indicted by the ICC are now in jail.

Thats because they are non nation state actors that no one cares about.

How many aircraft does the ICC have?

25 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Not at all. Did you not understand the question?

Yes I did.

Do you understand transparency?

33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

911 was a completely unexpected attack of a kind that had never happened in US history.

Israel, we are told, is under constant threat and has a highly sophisticated security system protecting its militarized borders.

Anyone claiming 911 could have been predicted and averted is doing so with the benefit of hindsight.

The attack of October 7 suggests significant systematic failures in an ‘always ready’ defense.

There is no equivalence between failures to protect against these two terrorist attacks.

You misunderstood again .

We are talking about the military action in response to the terror attcks .

We are talking about the USA and Israel taking their time to respond

48 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The truth.

Hence the need for a full and open inquiry.

I can’t answer for your string of loaded questions or what you think loaded questions are necessary, unless of course you let the cat out of the bag with your ‘Hint and Deny’.

Look, stopping messing about .

You do not believe Israel's version of events .

You want an enquiry to establish the "truth" .

You hint that the truth may be different to Israel's version of events .

You are hinting at a false flag operation and denying it at the same time

48 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Israel, we are told, is under constant threat and has a highly sophisticated security system protecting its militarized borders.

To protect from missile attacks , the paragliders literally flew under the radar

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes I did.

Do you understand transparency?

Yes, understand transparency, unless the left has refined it as well. Why so you refuse to answer?

Again: What is the benefit of an investigation being open?

I think it hilarious that you can't answer.

18 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You misunderstood again .

We are talking about the military action in response to the terror attcks .

We are talking about the USA and Israel taking their time to respond

Of course you have swerved to the military response in the weeks, months and years after these terrorist sttacks.

You already engaged the discussion of the security failures in October 7 when you responded to my posts on the matter.

Perhaps you don’t like talking about the catastrophic failures of defense on October 7.

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

To protect from missile attacks , the paragliders literally flew under the radar

I don’t believe Israel’s militarized borders have ever been set up to protect from only missile attacks.

9 hours ago, Tidal wave said:

Lovely peaceful people who would like to like next door to them any takers Chiang Mai.

Look at the "innocent" Gazans today in Gaza, at the funeral of a Hamas terrorist who murdered two Israeli girls on October 7, praising him as a hero.

This situation is much bigger and much more complex than you seem to think.

There's 2 sides to this scenario please try to have at least some limited understanding of the complexities of both sides.

Both sides have committeed atrocities, one sidemuch more than the other.

Just now, scorecard said:

This situation is much bigger and much more complex than you seem to think.

There's 2 sides to this scenario please try to have at least some limited understanding of the complexities of both sides.

Both sides have committeed atrocities, one side much more than the other.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t believe Israel’s militarized borders have ever been set up to protect from only missile attacks.

ok, what other defence mechanisms did the Gaza border have ?

Defence mechanisms which must have been stepped down, to allow the attack to proceed ?

What defence mechanisms are you referring to ?

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Of course you have swerved to the military response in the weeks, months and years after these terrorist sttacks.

That is what we were talking about .

The amount of time that it took Israel to respond .

That was the subject matter

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Look, stopping messing about .

You do not believe Israel's version of events .

You want an enquiry to establish the "truth" .

You hint that the truth may be different to Israel's version of events .

You are hinting at a false flag operation and denying it at the same time

There you go again Nick, imagining what I think, want and believe.

I have made absolutely no suggestion of a ‘false flag operation’ this too is a figment of your own imagination.

As I repeated earlier in this thread, I have consistently stated the heinous terrorist attack of October 7 was by Hamas, and it is they, Hamas, that are responsible for that heinous terrorist attack.

Hamas responsible = no not the false flag operation you keep referring to.

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

ok, what other defence mechanisms did the Gaza border have ?

Defence mechanisms which must have been stepped down, to allow the attack to proceed ?

What defence mechanisms are you referring to ?

Who suggested anything was ‘stepped down’?

I didn’t suggest such a thing so take it up with whoever did.

21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, understand transparency, unless the left has refined it as well. Why so you refuse to answer?

Again: What is the benefit of an investigation being open?

I think it hilarious that you can't answer.

The main benefit is the information revealed is public and therefore cannot be hidden or spun by any of the ‘interested’ parties.

But then I thought you understood transparency

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The main benefit is the information revealed is public and therefore cannot be hidden or spun by any of the ‘interested’ parties.

But then I thought you understood transparency

Then why are all investigations not open?

It seems to me that generally an investigation should be largely finished before the information revealed is made public.

If a crime is being investigate, it makes little sense to make public the information as it is gathered,

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Who suggested anything was ‘stepped down’?

I didn’t suggest such a thing so take it up with whoever did.

ok, what other defence mechanisms did the Gaza border have ?

25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There you go again Nick, imagining what I think, want and believe.

I have made absolutely no suggestion of a ‘false flag operation’ this too is a figment of your own imagination.

As I repeated earlier in this thread, I have consistently stated the heinous terrorist attack of October 7 was by Hamas, and it is they, Hamas, that are responsible for that heinous terrorist attack.

Hamas responsible = no not the false flag operation you keep referring to.

So, why the need for a public enquiry ?

3 minutes ago, papa al said:

2/3 of Israelis killed that day were killed by IDF.

No they were not, Stop lying .

The figure is more like 23 Israelis got killed in the cross fire between the IDF and Hamas

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

ok, what other defence mechanisms did the Gaza border have ?

Not much it would seem.

Which answers your other question:

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

So, why the need for a public enquiry ?

To reveal the truth of why thousands of invading terrorists were able to breach Israel’s border security on October 7 And why the security forces failed to respond immediately.

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not much it would seem.

Which answers your other question:

To reveal the truth of why thousands of invading terrorists were able to breach Israel’s border security on October 7 And why the security forces failed to respond immediately.

Would in open investigation of Israel's border security not provide bad actors with helpful information?

Reporting on the security failures makes for some shocking reading;

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-886242

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Reporting on the security failures makes for some shocking reading;

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-886242

The Israeli leadership were awoken at at their homes at 6 .30 AM, they traveled to HQ by 8 AM , they had begun managing the situation by 1 PM and war was officially declared soon after .

Where exactly was the delay ?

29 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Then why are all investigations not open?

It seems to me that generally an investigation should be largely finished before the information revealed is made public.

If a crime is being investigate, it makes little sense to make public the information as it is gathered,

Transparency declared as a summation of politically preferential evidence is illegitimate.

True transparency can only be established by the totality of all evidence.