Epstein and his underage "harem" available to the "who's who" of this world. Fine. Understood.

- But how did he make his money? He was a mere millionaire. Why would the billionares of this world seek the financial advice of an average "run of the mill" millionaire? His phase as an investment banker can't be called "spectacular". As far as we know.

Again, how did he make his money?

1 hour ago, swissie said:

Epstein and his underage "harem" available to the "who's who" of this world. Fine. Understood.

- But how did he make his money? He was a mere millionaire. Why would the billionares of this world seek the financial advice of an average "run of the mill" millionaire? His phase as an investment banker can't be called "spectacular". As far as we know.

Again, how did he make his money?

Well what we know so far is he was given financially sensitive information by the likes of Mandelson. Any billionaire financier with insider knowledge can make as much $$ as they want using options.

Im sure Mandelson wasnt the only govt official doing this.

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Well what we know so far is he was given financially sensitive information by the likes of Mandelson. Any billionaire financier with insider knowledge can make as much $$ as they want using options.

Im sure Mandelson wasnt the only govt official doing this.

Epstein with "first hand" information could have catapulted him from an average millionare to the billionaires club. Has not happened.

Again: How did he make his money?

31 minutes ago, swissie said:

Epstein with "first hand" information could have catapulted him from an average millionare to the billionaires club. Has not happened.

Again: How did he make his money?

Wasn't motivated by $$ like others with info like the Hungarian guy with giant eyebags(not sure if his name is still verboten here?) is my guess. He had as much money as he could use.

Now, how do you think he got his money, and why such a concern? I am more concerned how he was controlling the democrat party in congressional hearings, and was he controlling the UK through Mandelson back under Blairs long and disastrous reign?

Amusing to think we were called "conspiracy theorists" for factually stating the western new world order/lefty democracies were run by a pedophilc clique.😅

19 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Wasn't motivated by $$ like others with info like the Hungarian guy with giant eyebags(not sure if his name is still verboten here?) is my guess. He had as much money as he could use.

Now, how do you think he got his money, and why such a concern? I am more concerned how he was controlling the democrat party in congressional hearings, and was he controlling the UK through Mandelson back under Blairs long and disastrous reign?

Amusing to think we were called "conspiracy theorists" for factually stating the western new world order/lefty democracies were run by a pedophilc clique.😅

Selected quote: "I am more concerned how he was controlling the democrat party in congressional hearings"

You should be concerned by the fact that, when the Dems needed tips about Trump, their best source was Epstein! 🤣

2 hours ago, swissie said:

Epstein and his underage "harem" available to the "who's who" of this world. Fine. Understood.

- But how did he make his money? He was a mere millionaire. Why would the billionares of this world seek the financial advice of an average "run of the mill" millionaire? His phase as an investment banker can't be called "spectacular". As far as we know.

Again, how did he make his money?

The evidence , some of which is circumstantial, suggests;

1. Misappropriation of investor funds, i.e. theft.

2. Blackmail or coverup of arranged events that implicated parties needed to hush up.

3. Go to guy to enable under the table activities like tax avoidance and "smoothing" of disputes.

4. Introduction agent similar to a sales agent who earns a lead fee.

5. Insider trading.

I believe that 1 and 2 are the key sources of income. No one wants to admit that they were excited by the prospect of socializing with the wealthy and powerful and of making big money.In effect, they were blinded by personal greed and self importance.

21 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Wasn't motivated by $$ like others with info like the Hungarian guy with giant eyebags(not sure if his name is still verboten here?) is my guess. He had as much money as he could use.

Now, how do you think he got his money, and why such a concern? I am more concerned how he was controlling the democrat party in congressional hearings, and was he controlling the UK through Mandelson back under Blairs long and disastrous reign?

Amusing to think we were called "conspiracy theorists" for factually stating the western new world order/lefty democracies were run by a pedophilc clique.😅

You know whats coming don't you. Some form of your dear leader or cult or zzzzzzzzz I just fell asleep.

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The evidence , some of which is circumstantial, suggests;

1. Misappropriation of investor funds, i.e. theft.

2. Blackmail or coverup of arranged events that implicated parties needed to hush up.

3. Go to guy to enable under the table activities like tax avoidance and "smoothing" of disputes.

4. Introduction agent similar to a sales agent who earns a lead fee.

5. Insider trading.

I believe that 1 and 2 are the key sources of income. No one wants to admit that they were excited by the prospect of socializing with the wealthy and powerful and of making big money.In effect, they were blinded by personal greed and self importance.

Point 1 and 2 I intend to agree- The rest is up to the old "Sherlick Holmes" concept: "Follow the money". And if that doesen't help, look at personal benefators (qui bono).

A mediocre millionare with a carribian small island fascinating the "powerful people" of the world? There is so much more to it. We will never know. The "powerful people" visiting a small carribian island will not tell.

To bring "powerful people" to justice will once more prove to be an exerise in futility.

It was the international Zionist conspiracy.

Perhaps he was just good at his job ?

Officially the story goes Epstein was an unqualifed teacher at a private school, and sacked because he was crap at it. Unofficially, there are reports he had an unhealthy interest in the girls there.

When sacked in 1977, one of the parents (Alan Goldberg no less) apparently took pity on him, and got him a job at Bears Stearn, as a gopher. He became a junior trader and by 1980, was a partner, before being sacked when he was caught making up his CV. He seemed to have some sort of hold on Goldberg, who strangely kept trying to engineer a relationship between epstein and his daughter.

He seems to have made his money in the 80s, legitimately, handling fund for clients. His biggest clients were Les Wexner and Leon Black. In todays hearings, Wexner was named as a suspect. Black is also prominant in the Epstein files.

Sky News

Epstein scandal: How the paedophile financier made his mi...

Sky News takes a look at how Jeffrey Epstein was able to facilitate his crimes and how it was clear, even in his early career, that he could get away with lies to line his pockets.

An interesting but creep article about Epstein from 2003; Donald Trump is mentioned.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303?srsltid=AfmBOoqKI4EsweY6l7ZgDwJf7mYIymPtmh-nTj2SFl4of4Q0cKhEA5IC

Elements of the article come of as really strange or disturbing. This is strange:

Wexner trusts Epstein so completely that he has assigned him the power of fiduciary over all of his private trusts and foundations, says a source close to Wexner. In 1992, Epstein even persuaded Wexner to put him on the board of the Wexner Foundation in place of Wexner’s ailing mother. Bella Wexner recovered and demanded to be reinstated. Epstein has said they settled by splitting the foundation in two.

Disturbing

“You’ve probably heard I’m vicious in my representation of my clients,” he tells people proudly; Leah Kleman describes his haggling over art prices as something like a scene out of the movie Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome. Even a former mentor says he’s seen “the dark side” of Epstein, and a Bear Stearns source recalls a meeting in which Epstein chewed out a team making a presentation for Wexner as being so brutal as to be “irresponsible.”

One reporter, in fact, received three threats from Epstein while preparing a piece. They were delivered in a jocular tone, but the message was clear: There will be trouble for your family if I don’t like the article.

How times have changed

Epstein is known about town as a man who loves women—lots of them, mostly young. Model types have been heard saying they are full of gratitude to Epstein for flying them around, and he is a familiar face to many of the Victoria’s Secret girls. One young woman recalls being summoned by Ghislaine Maxwell to a concert at Epstein’s town house, where the women seemed to outnumber the men by far. “These were not women you’d see at Upper East Side dinners,” the woman recalls. “Many seemed foreign and dressed a little bizarrely.” This same guest also attended a cocktail party thrown by Maxwell that Prince Andrew attended, which was filled, she says, with young Russian models. “Some of the guests were horrified,” the woman says.

“He’s reckless,” says a former business associate, “and he’s gotten more so. Money does that to you. He’s breaking the oath he made to himself—that he would never do anything that would expose him in the media. Right now, in the wake of the publicity following his trip with Clinton, he must be in a very difficult place.”

Odd

Wexner, through a trust, bought the town house in which Epstein now lives for a reported $13.2 million in 1989. In 1993, Wexner married Abigail Koppel, a 31-year-old lawyer, and the newlyweds relocated to Ohio; in 1996, Epstein moved into the town house. Public documents suggest that the house is still owned by the trust that bought it, but Epstein has said that he now owns the house.