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Kasikorn branch at CW closed - my extension renewal

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I learned a few months ago about the closure. I guess now I will have to make my first stop at Kasikorn @IT Square and then go to immigration, putting me way-late in the queue.

Complicating matters, I now have a shiny new passport so there's one more thing that needs to be done.

Questions:

  1. Does the same immigration officer who does the extension of stay also move the stamp over at the same time or is there a separate desk for that?

  2. Does the transferring-of-stamps ceremony require its own income verification? If so, will I need to bring two bank letters, one for moving the stamps over to the new passport and another for the extension?

  3. Is there any mention of my passport number on the bank letter? If so, which one should it be - old passport or new?

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    Re. Kasikorn no, the letter does not have your passport number on it. However, you will need your passport to get the letter and statement so would be well advised to get it updated at the bank well

  • That would have been what, ten years ago? (OK, five at least if your country's passport validity is such.) Things have changed. Especially with concerns for one's passport details and immigration st

  • It's not immigration. The changes are not with immigration. The banks want, require, your updated passport details. A new passport among them. And they are most interested in your immigration status.

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Re. Kasikorn no, the letter does not have your passport number on it. However, you will need your passport to get the letter and statement so would be well advised to get it updated at the bank well in advance. You will also have to update your phone number with the new passport number.

Only the bank book has to be updated on the day of the extension. This can easily be done at any branch with an external passbook update machine, remember to make a transaction on the day before updating and then do it on the way to CW.

And to avoid the queue. make an appointment https://gov.immigration1.queueonline.net/appointment/login.html?v31 Appointments are released daily 30 days in advance, set an alarm and do it early morning to avoid disappointment.

23 minutes ago, phaholyothin said:

Complicating matters, I now have a shiny new passport so there's one more thing that needs to be done.

You are best advised to do stamp transfer prior to extension.

Having said that it's possible to do what you plan..

Stamp transfer is done at same desks as extensions.

As far at attending Kasikorn at IT Mall...

Suggest you do the update to bank book somewhere in your area where Kasikorn has branch with street front opens 8.30am.

Note the 12 month bank statement and bank letter can be obtained days prior to application for extension.

Highly recommend making an appointment.

Be aware that CW now require bank book photocopies + update for stamp transfer.

Previously not required.

Here is thread on transfer of stamps.

Note post by @Tod Daniels has link to form CW use.

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8 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

However, you will need your passport to get the letter and statement so would be well advised to get it updated at the bank well in advance.

I visited Kasikorn to attempt depositing an overseas cashier's check last month (the lady cocked her head and said 'what da heck is this?') And I presented my new passport then, so I assume they did the update at that time.

8 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

You will also have to update your phone number with the new passport number.

What's this about? This is the second time I've gotten a new passport since I've been here and I don't recall any 'update phone number' step last time. The bank has my correct phone number already and now they have my new PP number. Won't they be able to make the connection?

8 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

Only the bank book has to be updated on the day of the extension. This can easily be done at any branch with an external passbook update machine, remember to make a transaction on the day before updating and then do it on the way to CW.

From this and Dr Jack's reply, I now know that the bank letter doesn't need to be same-day. This is new information for me.

Dr Jack says "Note the 12 month bank statement and bank letter can be obtained days prior to application for extension." Further clarification needed: How many days is a safe window? Two or three days prior should be no problem? Then I will withdraw some cash on the morning of the visit to immigration and get the passbook updated.

8 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

And to avoid the queue. make an appointment https://gov.immigration1.queueonline.net/appointment/login.html?v31 Appointments are released daily 30 days in advance, set an alarm and do it early morning to avoid disappointment.

This sounds like a winning idea. If I've made an appointment then I don't need to get a queue number when I arrive? Where do the people with appointments wait to be called?

9 minutes ago, phaholyothin said:

This sounds like a winning idea. If I've made an appointment then I don't need to get a queue number when I arrive? Where do the people with appointments wait to be called?

If you obtain an appointment then you MUST print out hard copy of appointment confirmation.

I just take a screenshot of booking page and print that.

On arrival at immigration walk past the main queue desk.

Upon entry first Desk L1 show lady your appointment plus "extension package" financials etc.

Attend extension desk PRIOR to appointment eg 15mins.

They run on time.

14 minutes ago, phaholyothin said:

Further clarification needed: How many days is a safe window? Two or three days prior should be no problem? Then I will withdraw some cash on the morning of the visit to immigration and get the passbook updated.

I obtain my Bank Letter and 12 month bank statement couple of days prior to day of application.

On day of application I attend local bench that has, street front (not a mall) and make a 100b deposit..

This updates bank book and shows activity.

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3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

On day of application I attend local bench that has, street front (not a mall) and make a 100b deposit..

This updates bank book and shows activity.

Any particular reason a deposit is better than a withdrawal? As long as the passbook gets updated then either is ok right?

Added Note: if you want to also obtain a reentry permit you can make an appointment for say 1hr after extension.

Note the reentry permit lady will want photocopy of the page with new extension stamp.

Play dumb she may photocopy for you or duck down to level 1 where the print shops are.

FWIW: Previously I prepared all the required docs such as pp pages photocopies etc.

Now I just hand over pp to print shop saying "12 month extension "

They know what to provide

4 minutes ago, phaholyothin said:

Any particular reason a deposit is better than a withdrawal? As long as the passbook gets updated then either is ok right?

No reason. Both fine.

Don't be concerned that balance in bank book different than bank letter.

23 minutes ago, phaholyothin said:

This sounds like a winning idea. If I've made an appointment then I don't need to get a queue number when I arrive?

Nope. You will get an email confirming your queue number and which section/desk to attend. Arrive 15 mins early for document check.

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25 minutes ago, phaholyothin said:

What's this about? This is the second time I've gotten a new passport since I've been here and I don't recall any 'update phone number' step last time. The bank has my correct phone number already and now they have my new PP number. Won't they be able to make the connection?

Maybe they will. There was a period last year when they got all excited about this. In theory you should still update your phone provider with the new passport number, in practice it may not matter.

5 minutes ago, phaholyothin said:

Any particular reason a deposit is better than a withdrawal? As long as the passbook gets updated then either is ok right?

Deposit, withdrawal or transaction all equal. The latter 2 being more convenient if using the update machine.

4 hours ago, phaholyothin said:

What's this about? This is the second time I've gotten a new passport since I've been here and I don't recall any 'update phone number' step last time.

That would have been what, ten years ago? (OK, five at least if your country's passport validity is such.)

Things have changed. Especially with concerns for one's passport details and immigration status to be confirmed (and re-confirmed) with their bank and phone service providers. Lot of things been happening on those fronts, the past couple years especially.

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I have never heard about immigration confirming anything with my phone service provider. The officer always asks me to write my phone number on the map to my house but I've never known that they actually check to confirm it's really my number. Seems like the officer could just call me right then and there to make sure I'm not giving them a fake number.

Could you point me to a discussion here or article online giving more details?

14 minutes ago, phaholyothin said:

Could you point me to a discussion here or article online giving more details?

I renewed my opinion couple of years back and last extension was Nov last year. Zero issues.

I have never updated phone # with provider. I'm my case True.

Thinking those using banking app may have this requirement.

Others will correct if this is misinformation

31 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Bummer about Kasikorn, is Krungsri still open?

Yes.

As pointed out. The statement and letter can be obtained days prior, which is best option.

The update on day of application not a deal breaker. Use update machine or local branch that opens 8.30

13 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes.

As pointed out. The statement and letter can be obtained days prior, which is best option.

The update on day of application not a deal breaker. Use update machine or local branch that opens 8.30

Thanks!

1 hour ago, phaholyothin said:

I have never heard about immigration confirming anything with my phone service provider.

It's not immigration. The changes are not with immigration. The banks want, require, your updated passport details. A new passport among them. And they are most interested in your immigration status. Some (more, many, and some point perhaps all?) will close the account if the immigration status associated with the passport is not in the 'approved' category.

I think the banks can even see details of one's phone number that it is tied to an older, now expired passport. Maybe, maybe not, but we're in the age of data sharing. Banks will most likely tell you to update the new passport details with the service provider. If you are using the bank's app you might be told to update the details with the provider to continue using the app. Is is 100 percent uniform? No, but it's probably headed that way.

Anyway, the providers want to be updated about any changes in passport details, though they don't care too much about the immigration status like the banks do.

If you do not keep your passport up to date with the bank, at some point, you will want to do something with the account, your new passport number will match the passport number on the account, and you'll be effed.

Yes, this is a big deal. I wanted to open a USD account only to discover the bank had THREE passports ago!

Isn't it worth it to move your Immigration money to a bank still open at CW? I guess Kasikorn figured B100 for all those letters wasn't worth the rent.

3 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Yes, this is a big deal. I wanted to open a USD account only to discover the bank had THREE passports ago!

Isn't it worth it to move your Immigration money to a bank still open at CW? I guess Kasikorn figured B100 for all those letters wasn't worth the rent.

I had the three passport thing happen when I retired and move to Bangkok from Prachinburi. Luckily, I still had all the old passports.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Isn't it worth it to move your Immigration money to a bank still open at CW?

Not really, unless one is trying to get their extension done early in the morning right after immigration opens.

Otherwise, the 'bank letter' (confirming ownership and balance) and 'bank statement' (12 months' record of account activity) can be acquired in advance of 'extension day'. (A preferable practice that eases tasks on extension day.)

All that's needed then is a day-of-extension bankbook update, which can be done at any conveniently-located branch of one's bank while on the way to immigration. Get copies of the bankbook after arriving at immigration, then you're good to go.

2 minutes ago, rwilem said:

Not really, unless one is trying to get their extension done is the first times available in the morning.

Otherwise, the 'bank letter' (confirming ownership and balance) and 'bank statement' (12 months' record of account activity) can be acquired in advance of 'extension day'. (A preferable practice that eases tasks on extension day.)

All that's needed then is a day-of-extension bankbook update which can be done at any conveniently-located branch of one's bank while on the way to immigration. Get copies of the bankbook after arriving at immigration, then you're good to go.

It is nice to have multiple accounts with multiple banks.

I've used both Kasikorn and Krungsi, and I could use Bangkok if I had to. I do not go out much, and making a special trip to the bank is a minor PITA

35 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I do not go out much, and making a special trip to the bank is a minor PITA.

What I'm talking about is a day-of-extension 'breeze-by' of a branch of your bank while you are on your way to immigration. Stick the bankbook in the 'passbook update' terminal outside the branch. Don't even have to go inside the bank. It takes Iiterally seconds. Then all you need is to get it copied, which is quite easy to do after arriving at immigration.

2 minutes ago, rwilem said:

What I'm talking about is a day-of-extension 'breeze-by' of a branch of your bank while you are on your way to immigration. Stick the bankbook in the 'passbook update' terminal outside the branch. Don't even have to go inside the bank. It takes Iiterally seconds. Then all you need is to get it copied, which is quite easy to do after arriving at immigration.

How do you get the letter without going in?

31 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How do you get the letter without going in?

I get the letter and statement a couple days before the day I plan to do the extension at immigration. Get them in advance, get that part done and out of the way.

Then the only things left to do on 'extension day' are the bankbook update and copies of the relevant bankbook pages.

9 minutes ago, rwilem said:

I get the letter and statement a couple days before the day I plan to do the extension at immigration. Get them in advance, get that part done and out of the way.

Then the only things left to do on 'extension day' are the bankbook update and copies of the relevant bankbook pages.

Yeah, I do not go out much, and making a special trip to the bank is a minor PITA.

40 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, I do not go out much, and making a special trip to the bank is a minor PITA.

Yeah, obviously. You could have an agent do it for you, I suppose.

You do understand what I'm saying here, in these posts, right? If you are obligated to get these documents from the bank, it's not a bad idea at all to get them done in advance of the day you apply for the extension.

Furthermore, getting them at a branch in town is probably less of a PITA (and I don't like them, either) than trying to get them from a branch at the immigration building (in the case of CW) potentially crowded with others seeking the same. Take a number and wait.

The idea is to 'lighten your load', so to speak, of tasks needing to be done for the extension. Break it up, do some of them in advance and make for an easier 'extension day'.

8 minutes ago, rwilem said:

Yeah, obviously. You could have an agent do it for you, I suppose.

You do understand what I'm saying here, in these posts, right? If you are obligated to get these documents from the bank, it's not a bad idea at all to get them done in advance of the day you apply for the extension.

Furthermore, getting them at a branch in town is probably less of a PITA (and I don't like them, either) than trying to get them from a branch at the immigration building (in the case of CW) potentially crowded with others seeking the same. Take a number and wait.

The idea is to 'lighten your load', so to speak, of tasks needing to be done for the extension. Break it up, do some of them in advance and make for an easier 'extension day'.

I don't have to use an agent, getting the extension is easy enough, and if they close Krunsri at CW I'll bite the bullet and get it the day before.

Right now, I go to CW, transfer the round-off from the "funds" account into another account, update the book, ask for the letter, walk over to get the copies, pick up the letter, get a coffee at S & P and wait for my wife to call me.

Krunsri had a lot shorter line than Kasikorn, that may change now.

55 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Right now, I go to CW, transfer the round-off from the "funds" account into another account, update the book, ask for the letter, walk over to get the copies, pick up the letter, get a coffee at S & P and wait for my wife to call me.

Hey, I get it. To each their own, and if you've got an MO that you like and it's working for you, keep on keepin' on!

20 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes.

As pointed out. The statement and letter can be obtained days prior, which is best option.

The update on day of application not a deal breaker. Use update machine or local branch that opens 8.30

I'm curious: how many days before? (I usually do it on exactly one day before.) THX

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