2 hours ago, Maybole said:

Me Too!

My mom, step father and one cousin have red hair.

One of the most sickening pieces of propaganda for me are the advertisements which include red haired women with Africans. Only 1% of the world has red hair and fair skin and they're being shown alongside the endless hordes of black haired dark skinned Africans.

4 hours ago, Lucky Bones said:

Do ya'self a favour & stop commenting on this thread.

You are embarrassing.🙃🙃

I think its only fair that you tell me the reason for your little tantrum, you might as well wait until you've sobered up wonder what I could have said that provoked such a profound reaction

in the meantime would any other members care to enlighten me?

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

In this day and age , its well known and accepted that Anti Semitism refers solely to Jews .

That is absolutely correct. In the English language, antisemitism has never referred to anything but a hatred of Jews. It has never applied to Arabs or any other group but Jews. The word was "borrowed" from German into English in the 1880s.

@Bday Prang gave us info from an AI query earlier in this thread:

6 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

In 1879, a German journalist named Wilhelm Marr wanted to replace the traditional German word for Jew-hatred (Judenhass) with something that sounded more modern and objective. At the time, "science" was being used to categorize people into races, so he chose "Antisemitismus" to make it sound like a rational opposition to a distinct racial group (the Semites) rather than a simple religious or personal dislike of Jews.

I have also written about this before:

On 4/13/2025 at 1:23 AM, Evil Penevil said:

  The use of the word "Semite" to refer to an ethnic group is outdated.  The Encyclopedia Britannica explains it this way:

"Semite, obsolete term, popularized in the 19th century, that originally described a member of any people who speak one of the Semitic languages, a family of languages that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, Aramaic, and Tigrinya, among others. The term was later used in an ethnic sense, even though there has never been a shared Semitic identity among Semitic-speaking peoples. When used in that sense, Semite often referred specifically to people of Jewish origin, regardless of what language they spoke, a reflection of the antisemitism that was concurrent in 19th-century Europe."  https://www.britannica.com/topic/Semite

 

The word "anti-Semitism" or "antisemitism" entered the English language in1881 from the German Antisemitismus, which had been coined by Wilhelm Marr, a German journalist and agitator who thought it sounded more scientific and academic than the older Judenhaß  ("Jew hatred").  Marr himself is regarded as the "father of modern antisemitism,"  although he apparently renounced his anti-Jewish beliefs as an old man.  https://njop.org/the-origin-of-word-anti-semitism/

 

Bottom line:  the word "antisemitism" has never been used in the English language to mean anything but a hatred of  Jews.

19 hours ago, BusyB said:

How sad.

The word hypocrite also entered my life at the same time.

On 3/4/2026 at 9:28 AM, spidermike007 said:

Many people think that Christ was either black or very dark skinned as is the case with many people from that region, and racism is just a manifestation of lack of self-esteem, very poor education, fear, and garbage from one's family or society.

As many of us know there is currently a white supremacist movement underway, and they are trying to instill the belief that anyone white is superior to anyone of color, which is completely ridiculous. Some of the most educated accomplished and amazing people I know are people of color and immigrants have made America what it is today.

Unfortunately we have truly ridiculous, shallow, hateful, nasty, horrific people like Donald Trump and Stephen Miller, who are pushing a white supremacist, white superiority, dark skin color is bad agenda, and a percentage of their less intellectual followers are buying into it.

I Think you really meant to use this idiot as a reference
Biden says 'poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids'

On 3/4/2026 at 9:28 AM, spidermike007 said:

Many people think that Christ was either black or very dark skinned as is the case with many people from that region, and racism is just a manifestation of lack of self-esteem, very poor education, fear, and garbage from one's family or society.

As many of us know there is currently a white supremacist movement underway, and they are trying to instill the belief that anyone white is superior to anyone of color, which is completely ridiculous. Some of the most educated accomplished and amazing people I know are people of color and immigrants have made America what it is today.

Unfortunately we have truly ridiculous, shallow, hateful, nasty, horrific people like Donald Trump and Stephen Miller, who are pushing a white supremacist, white superiority, dark skin color is bad agenda, and a percentage of their less intellectual followers are buying into it.

dude.. you should really consider charging rent ( for that space between your ears ) to President Trump

24 minutes ago, Luuk Chaai said:

dude.. you should really consider charging rent ( for that space between your ears ) to President Trump

Nah. It's just pure entertainment for me and Trump gives me an awful lot to work with.

20 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

In this day and age , its well known and accepted that Anti Semitism refers solely to Jews .

The word has moved on from the actual literal meaning

Exactly. In plain English, “anti-Semitism” means hatred of Jewish people. That’s how the word is universally used and understood. People I’ve encountered who try to obfuscate this fact by saying that semitic languages include Arabic and Amharic, etc. etc., often have been accused of anti-Semitism themselves, and they’re just trying to muddy the waters by calling into doubt the very legitimacy of the word.

George Wallace used to say he was a segregationist, not a racist. That mindset has been passed on to supporters of Palestine who say they are anti-Zionist, not anti-Jewish. Does the distinction really matter in practice?

@NorthernRyland You are referring to segregation as though it were only a matter of housing. During the Jim Crow years in the U.S. South (1875-1965), segregation meant separation of the races in all aspects of life. Schools, restaurants, bars, restrooms, hotels, hospitals, public transportation, libraries, movie theaters and other entertainment venues, parks, beaches, whatever, were all segregated. There were even separate water fountains for "white" and "colored."

3 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

yes you're right he was a governor.

I don't see any problem though and I don't see why he apologized unless he got pressured to do so.

I'm sure he got pressured to do it- by his own conscience. From the public statements he made in the 1970s 1980s and 1990s, he realized it was wrong to discriminate against people solely on the basis of the color of their skin.

Practical considerations may also have put pressure on him. By 1970, Jim Crow laws had been overturned in Alabama and every other state. Black Alabamans were allowed to register to vote and white candidates could not longer win elections without at least some of the Black vote.

3 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Imagine the Thai government gave citizenship to millions of farangs and then the Thais decided they were going to segregate the farangs so they don't have to mix together. Would that be wrong? I say no because the Thais were put upon by their government and they have the right to decide their own internal borders.

That's an unrealistic hypothetical example ("millions of farang"), but I'll take a shot at answering.

You have to distinguish between de jure and de facto segregation. De jure segregation would mean the separation of the two groups is mandated by Thai law; de facto means there's no law but there's racial segregation anyway, maybe because of social custom, tradition or personal choice.

If native-born Thais refuse to mix with naturalized former farang, then that's just the way things are. It's not a commendable attitude in my estimation, so my answer would be: yes, that's wrong, but not much can be done about it.

On 3/4/2026 at 8:46 AM, koolkarl said:

Tell that to muslims.

Nope. I'm telling it to YOU. Somebody has to start, to achieve any kind of brotherhood of man don't they?

3 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

George

3 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

George Wallace used to say he was a segregationist, not a racist. That mindset has been passed on to supporters of Palestine who say they are anti-Zionist, not anti-Jewish. Does the distinction really matter in practice?

Obviously, I can only speak for myself. I am rabidly anti-Israeli as I am anti-American because of their actions. Not their culture, or colour or religion. I don't know enough about Zionism to comment but if Zionists are in support of war then, yes, I am anti-Zionist.

I can't say even that I'm pro-Palestine though I think anything that anyone can do to disrupt and interfere with Israel's war effort is a good thing. I'm anti-suffering, Ev, no matter who the hell's inflicting it.

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Nah. It's just pure entertainment for me and Trump gives me an awful lot to work with.

Oh, my Lord, you can't make this <deleted> up. It's pure vaudeville or today's equivalent, reality TV.

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I don't know enough about Zionism to comment but if Zionists are in support of war then, yes, I am anti-Zionist.

Do you beleive that Israel has the right to exist ?

5 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

@NorthernRyland You are referring to segregation as though it were only a matter of housing. During the Jim Crow years in the U.S. South (1875-1965), segregation meant separation of the races in all aspects of life. Schools, restaurants, bars, restrooms, hotels, hospitals, public transportation, libraries, movie theaters and other entertainment venues, parks, beaches, whatever, were all segregated. There were even separate water fountains for "white" and "colored."

I know. Listened to some speeches from him. Remember it was only a tiny minority of wealthy people who could afford slaves and once that ended they were being released upon the general population. They didn't bring the slaves and didn't want to associate with them once it ended. He was appealing to freedom of associate which is just and valid in my opinion.

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Do you beleive that Israel has the right to exist ?

Of course, but not by force of arms. If that's what it takes to 'exist'. Nick, the whole world is lost.

On 3/5/2026 at 8:23 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

Do you beleive that Israel has the right to exist ?

No. The land was stolen from the previous occupants. That was a done thing in the past, but not acceptable in the last 100 years or so.

19 minutes ago, rickudon said:

No. The land was stolen from the previous occupants. That was a done thing in the past, but not acceptable in the last 100 years or so.

Who decided when it became acceptable ?

What year exactly did it becfome unacceptable ?

On 3/5/2026 at 4:57 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

Of course, but not by force of arms. If that's what it takes to 'exist'. Nick, the whole world is lost.

Israels right to exist was decided democratically by the Whole World in a U.N vote

On 3/4/2026 at 11:23 PM, NorthernRyland said:

My mom, step father and one cousin have red hair.

One of the most sickening pieces of propaganda for me are the advertisements which include red haired women with Africans. Only 1% of the world has red hair and fair skin and they're being shown alongside the endless hordes of black haired dark skinned Africans.

I was told by a black acquaintance that blacks love red haired girls, and have seen quite a few with them, noticing it more after he mentioned that to me.

41 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israels right to exist was decided democratically by the Whole World in a U.N vote

No it wasn't.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

No it wasn't.

Yes it was

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yes it was

On November 29, 1947, the UN General Assembly passed Resolution 181, recommending the partition of British-mandate Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem under international control. While Jewish leaders accepted this plan, Arab leaders rejected it, leading to a civil war...

It was a solution to the problem of terrorism by the Zionists at the time.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

On November 29, 1947, the UN General Assembly passed Resolution 181, recommending the partition of British-mandate Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem under international control. While Jewish leaders accepted this plan, Arab leaders rejected it, leading to a civil war...

It was a solution to the problem of terrorism by the Zionists at the time.

Yes, the U.N voted on the issue and the majority voted for the creation of Isreal .

A World democratic vote.

You are agreeing with me

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yes, the U.N voted on the issue and the majority voted for the creation of Isreal .

A World democratic vote.

You are agreeing with me

No, they didn't. They voted to stop the fighting. Not only that, but we know there is always coercion and influence by the main members.

Don't pretend that they voted for the creation of Israel. If it weren't for the Jewish terrorists there would have been no vote at all.

2 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

No, they didn't. They voted to stop the fighting. Not only that, but we know there is always coercion and influence by the main members.

Don't pretend that they voted for the creation of Israel. If it weren't for the Jewish terrorists there would have been no vote at all.

The question and vote was whether the land should be divided into Arab and Jewish lands and the U.N voted, Yes, it should .

Democracy in action

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The question and vote was whether the land should be divided into Arab and Jewish lands and the U.N voted, Yes, it should .

Democracy in action

That's completely different from your suggestion that they voted for the creation of Israel.

Why would they? It had nothing to do with most countries. It was a solution forced on to the Arabs.

Another rant from our resident Julius Streicher, ho hum.

2 hours ago, IsmeUno said:

That's completely different from your suggestion that they voted for the creation of Israel.

Why would they? It had nothing to do with most countries. It was a solution forced on to the Arabs.

No it isn't different , its the same .

The U.N voted for the creation of a Jewish state on the land

The U.N voted "Yes"

I didn't change anything , its completely the same

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I was told by a black acquaintance that blacks love red haired girls, and have seen quite a few with them, noticing it more after he mentioned that to me.

of course they do because they aren't bald or wear wigs like black women do.

Most Palestinians are semite and most Israelites are not as they mostly come from Europe and Russia

Not a lot of people know that.

Michael Caine