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Iran warns of wider attacks as Trump calls for international naval force in Hormuz

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10 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Iran is a sovereign nation which is in it's rights to do so, now are you saying its power generation iam confussed one post you are saying they are building Nuclear IBCM's the next post is its for power so which is it ??? and why should they tranfer THEIR uranium

Nope. Try reading again. I said and backed it up that they have uranium enriched to 60% when domestic nuclear power production only requires enrichment to 3-5%. I then asked why they have 450 kg of 60% enriched uranium and why they found it necessary to enrich uranium for "domestic energy" deep, deep underground. This you have failed to address.

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  • Chomper Higgot
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    A statement that renewals your inability to grasp opposing the illegal Israeli/US war of aggression is not the same thing as supporting Iran.

  • MikeandDow
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    But ! But ! I dont need help I only want the allies to put there navy in harm way

  • Nick Carter icp
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    Says those who side with Iran

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3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

56 Muslim Countries in the U.N

1 Jewish Country in the U,N

Jewish Country ALWAYS gets outvoted by Muslim Countries .

Muslim Countries are highly influenceable in the U.N

Maybe you have answered this question many times before, and if you think about it, seeing your history of answers, you know what you would had answered if it was palestinians we talked about here.

You would said, nobody wants them and they should be removed, move to Usa, because you have several times said palestinians should be relocated to Africa!

And you know Israel only exists because of Usa, France and Uk.

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25 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Nope. Try reading again. I said and backed it up that they have uranium enriched to 60% when domestic nuclear power production only requires enrichment to 3-5%. I then asked why they have 450 kg of 60% enriched uranium and why they found it necessary to enrich uranium for "domestic energy" deep, deep underground. This you have failed to address.

As a sovereign nation it is there Right !! nobody stopped North koria the usa should stop being the worlds policeman and focuse on there own Madman !!

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16 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Its Not the american military that is in question but the leadership you yanks voted in a Madman who thinks war is FUN !! that should tell you a lot ! it is shame full for a country to get to this stage, but you Yanks are not very succesful in war since vitnam you have had your arse kick all the time all those lives lost bucause of your leaders beating there chest saying you are the best well wake up YOU ARE NOT !! and again Iran will kick your arse one way or another you may bomb iran But your terrost warning will not go down Trump has got you in a forever war no american will be safe !

Totally agree, the man is a complete madman and an insane super freak, and he has spent 14 months disrespecting our allies and now he's asking them to come to our rescue. Well good luck with that Don.

Why would any nation put their navy at risk for this toxic street trash goomba? He started this mess. He dug this hole and he's going to have to figure out a way to dig himself out of it. My guess is that he will withdraw with his tail between his legs, and claim a false victory having accomplished nothing except destruction of the world economy and more turmoil, but that's why we call him Mr. Chaos, isn't it?

He is a simpleton nimwit, being advised by people that he picked from the absolute bottom of the barrel, but that's just Don. It's a shame because tens of millions of people thought he was somebody else. And he sure is showing his true colors now.

And both of his sons just purchased a company that is going to be making drones for the US Armed Forces, so guess what? This whole thing just might have been about self enrichment for his family, and nothing more. The massive and unadulterated corruption continues, Trump style.

53 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

As a sovereign nation it is there Right !! nobody stopped North koria the usa should stop being the worlds policeman and focuse on there own Madman !!

Iran should have the right to nukes? I guess for you that means all dictatorships should have the right to nukes.

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Just now, dinsdale said:

Iran should have the right to nukes? I guess for you that means all dictatorships should have the right to nukes.

well the us has nukes !! so why not and the usa is now a dictatorship

Yes, a dictator can be elected. Many modern dictators initially gain power through legitimate, democratic elections, after which they dismantle democratic checks and balances to establish authoritarian rule

. This scenario is sometimes referred to as an "elective dictatorship," where a leader uses a democratic mandate to consolidate power, control institutions, and suppress opposition.

36 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

the usa is now a dictatorship

Plainly you do not know what a dictator is. I'm sure you'll try to say why Trump is a dictator but this is ridiculous and an affront to all those who live under actual dictators or have been imprisoned or killed under actual dictatorships. Wear a T-shirt in the US saying I hate Trump and nothing will happen. Wear a T-shirt in Iran saying I hate the Ayatollahs and what do you think would happen.

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Plainly you do not know what a dictator is. I'm sure you'll try to say why Trump is a dictator but this is ridiculous and an affront to all those who live under actual dictators or have been imprisoned or killed under actual dictatorships. Wear a T-shirt in the US saying I hate Trump and nothing will happen. Wear a T-shirt in Iran saying I hate the Ayatollahs and what do you think would happen.

you are into using AI see what it has to say about elected dictator is then you can appoligise

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14 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Plainly you do not know what a dictator is. I'm sure you'll try to say why Trump is a dictator but this is ridiculous and an affront to all those who live under actual dictators or have been imprisoned or killed under actual dictatorships.

Lets put some adjectives in the sentence and then it will be perfect. Want to be dictator. His dream.

So, Trump's plan was to ultimately declare that he was very concerned about Iran's quarrel with Israel and wanted to act as a peacemaker.

However, something went wrong. Instead of useful idiots, the military somehow seized de facto power in Iran. Perhaps because someone killed all the useful idiots, along with Khamenei. And for some reason, the military doesn't want to pretend that Trump is a peacemaker and isn't involved in the war at all.

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s for Israel and the U.S. to stop their illegal war.

Refer the UN Charter Articles 2(4) and 51.

And who will enforce this. Answer: nobody. It is a nonsense and most people know and accept that the UN is a position for public servants, ex politicians and grifters who are otherwise unemployable.

1 hour ago, MikeandDow said:

you are into using AI see what it has to say about elected dictator is then you can appoligise

Pure deflection. As I said you don't know what a dictator actually is. As for elected dictators Putin gets elected all the time. Xi? Leader for life. Now again why is Trump, in your opinion, a dictator?

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2 minutes ago, zmisha said:

So, Trump's plan was to ultimately declare that he was very concerned about Iran's rift with Israel and wanted to act as a peacemaker.

However, something went wrong. Instead of useful idiots, the military somehow seized de facto power in Iran. Perhaps because someone killed all the useful idiots, along with Khamenei.

2 minutes ago, zmisha said:

So, Trump's plan was to ultimately declare that he was very concerned about Iran's rift with Israel and wanted to act as a pcemaker.

However, something went wrong. Instead of useful idiots, the military somehow seized de facto power in Iran. Perhaps because someone killed all the useful idiots, along with Khamenei.

12 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Pure deflection. As I said you don't know what a dictator actually is. As for elected dictators Putin gets elected all the time. Xi? Leader for life. Now again why is Trump, in your opinion, a dictator?

13 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Pure deflection. As I said you don't know what a dictator actually is. As for elected dictators Putin gets elected all the time. Xi? Leader for life. Now again why is Trump, in your opinion, a dictator?

i have told you look up elected dictator fits trump to a tee

31 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

i have told you look up elected dictator fits trump to a tee

AI Overview

An elected dictatorship (or elective dictatorship) is a democratic state where the governing party dominates parliament so heavily, typically via a large majority and strict party discipline, that it can pass almost any legislation it desires, rendering parliamentary scrutiny weak.

Part of the Government has been shutdown again by the opposition and the Save America Act is having a very difficult time getting passed by the Senate. This in no way squares with what you claim.

9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

AI Overview

An elected dictatorship (or elective dictatorship) is a democratic state where the governing party dominates parliament so heavily, typically via a large majority and strict party discipline, that it can pass almost any legislation it desires, rendering parliamentary scrutiny weak.

Part of the Government has been shutdown again by the opposition and the Save America Act is having a very difficult time getting passed by the Senate. This in no way squares with what you claim.

wrong There are many types of Dictators

A dictator can be elected, often using democratic processes to initially gain power before dismantling democratic institutions. Modern autocrats frequently use elections to project legitimacy, even when opposition is suppressed

. This phenomenon, sometimes called "elective dictatorship," occurs when a leader wins, then consolidates absolute power. 

Key Aspects of Elected Dictatorships:

  • Democratic Facade: Dictatorships often hold elections to appear legitimate internationally, project strength, and keep citizens engaged in a controlled process.

  • The "Illiberal" Path: Leaders may use populism to get elected, then progressively remove checks on their power, such as restricting media, weakening the judiciary, and suppressing opposition.

  • Hybrid Regimes: Many dictators arise in "competitive authoritarian" regimes, where elections occur but are skewed heavily in favor of incumbents.

The whole point is that they Trump dont listen to congres/Parliment the executive branch is over ruling the constitution of the united states which trump is doing therefore he is dismatiling the democratic institutions and executive acts cannot lawfully violate the constitution . 

25 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

AI Overview

An elected dictatorship (or elective dictatorship) is a democratic state where the governing party dominates parliament so heavily, typically via a large majority and strict party discipline, that it can pass almost any legislation it desires, rendering parliamentary scrutiny weak.

Part of the Government has been shutdown again by the opposition and the Save America Act is having a very difficult time getting passed by the Senate. This in no way squares with what you claim.

As a wantobee yank you should know the executive brach can not overide the constitution this is basic 101 democracy and what is trump doing !!

21 hours ago, Tug said:

that being said I will not disparage our military or their capabilities.

Wars will crease when men refuse to fight. I really can't fathom why any of those soldiers (that we hear about) don't just refuse orders. Illegal conduct, as bombing drug boats or serving in undeclared wars is a hell of a lot more PRSD than losing your pension. But, I agree, it's not their brainwashed fault.

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Iran should have the right to nukes? I guess for you that means all dictatorships should have the right to nukes.

Absolutely. Equality in human extinction. Do you think NK is any more tetchy than Russia or Israel? Do you think Ukraine would have used the bomb if they had retained them on their independence?

Even dictatorships have that much sense. But as long as there are nukes in this world, the possibility--probability--remains that some rogue actor inside govt with access, is someday gonna get frustrated/crazy enough to let one fly. How about the pilot who drove 370 into the sea? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it can't haepen here!n.

The only way to prevent accident or intention is by dismantle all countries' muclear programmes. That includes yours, Israel.

If we won't do that then, yes, any old country should be free to develop nukes.

Yep, all or nothing.

3 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

The only way to prevent accident or intention is by dismantle all countries' muclear programmes.

Agree. Sadly I doubt it will happen. What doesn't need to happen though is more countries getting them especially countries that threaten to wipe other countries off the map run by dictators.

7 hours ago, dinsdale said:

They were complying with it by building enrichment facilities in bunkers deep under mountains?

Where are US nukes, Russia's, Israel's? Out in the open for all the world to see, right?

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I did mean IF you went to the march .

I will re write the question to make it easier to understand :

"Today there was a march in London for Al-Quds day .

There was a group of pro Iranian regime/pro Palestine marches and there was a group of Iranians who oppose the regime and Israelis marching together

Which side would you have been on if you went to the march ?"

I would have been on the HUMAN side. Were Palestine Action there, a nonviolent group, that's where I would have been...if I had not been drinking coffee 4k miles away.

What did you do to celebrate Quds, Nick? I didn't even know when it is or, to this moment, even what it is. You do, so obviously, it's very important to you.

Happy Quds! (Whatever that is, sounds like snus to me.)

6 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Iran is a sovereign nation which is in it's rights to do so, now are you saying its power generation iam confussed one post you are saying they are building Nuclear IBCM's the next post is its for power so which is it ??? and why should they tranfer THEIR uranium

Rhetorical question: Would Israel and the US have attacked Iran if they had the bomb?

19 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Which side do you support in the conflict ?

PEOPLE, even the idiots...

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33 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Agree. Sadly I doubt it will happen. What doesn't need to happen though is more countries getting them especially countries that threaten to wipe other countries off the map run by dictators.

The Greater Israel (Eretz Yisrael Haslema) vision. A Zionist concept vision of a Jewish state that extends beyond current boundaries, often described as spanning from the Nile to the Euphrates. It has been etched in Israel; far-right political and expansionist vision. It has been Netanyahu's 40 years long held goal of greater Israel and and wiping out Iran. He seem to be able to manupulate Trump which shared similar terrotorial expansion in his narcissism and megalomania mindset.

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Agree. Sadly I doubt it will happen. What doesn't need to happen though is more countries getting them especially countries that threaten to wipe other countries off the map run by dictators.

Wanttobee yank just like your hero warmonger Trump should be ashamed of yourself do you have ASPD

43 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Rhetorical question: Would Israel and the US have attacked Iran if they had the bomb?

i would say very doughtfull same as no body has bothered NKoria

51 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

What did you do to celebrate Quds, Nick? I didn't even know when it is or, to this moment, even what it is. You do, so obviously, it's very important to you.

That is a great example of how you can ignorantly come to wrong conclusion .

There was a news report about it on a media website where pro Palestinians were calling for death and Iranians and Israelis were standing together calling for peace and I clicked on the link to the news story .

So, it wasn't "obvious" that it was very important to me, because i just was it on a media website

55 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Rhetorical question: Would Israel and the US have attacked Iran if they had the bomb?

Probably not. Real question: Who wants a nuclear armed Iran? Then it could also be a nuclear armed Hezbollah, nuclear armed Houthis, nuclear armed Hamas etc.

7 hours ago, Hummin said:

You would said, nobody wants them and they should be removed, move to Usa, because you have several times said palestinians should be relocated to Africa!

No, I didn't say that several times .

I may have said that they Could be , which is quite different to saying they should be

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