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Similarities of the Roman and US empires?

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Tacitus's Agricola (De vita et moribus Iulii Agricolae) is a short biographical work written around 98 CE, shortly after the death of Emperor Domitian. It serves as a eulogy and tribute to the author's father-in-law, Gnaeus Julius Agricola (40–93 CE), a Roman general and governor of Britain.

It critiques imperial tyranny, the moral costs of empire, and yet how good men can serve Rome honorably even under bad emperors.

Many themes could be transposed with the current US empire without any loss of meaning. Change “Britain” to “Iran” (or any other target of US imperialism) and Roman to American and it reads flawlessly.


30. "When I reflect on the causes of the war, and the circumstances of our situation, I feel a strong persuasion that our united efforts on the present day will prove the beginning of universal liberty to Britain. For we are all undebased by slavery; and there is no land behind us, nor does even the sea afford a refuge, whilst the Roman fleet hovers around. Thus the use of arms, which is at all times honorable to the brave, now offers the only safety even to cowards. In all the battles which have yet been fought, with various success, against the Romans, our countrymen may be deemed to have reposed their final hopes and resources in us: for we, the noblest sons of Britain, and therefore stationed in its last recesses, far from the view of servile shores, have preserved even our eyes unpolluted by the contact of subjection. We, at the furthest limits both of land and liberty, have been defended to this day by the remoteness of our situation and of our fame. The extremity of Britain is now disclosed; and whatever is unknown becomes an object of magnitude. But there is no nation beyond us; nothing but waves and rocks, and the still more hostile Romans, whose arrogance we cannot escape by obsequiousness and submission. These plunderers of the world, after exhausting the land by their devastations, are rifling the ocean: stimulated by avarice, if their enemy be rich; by ambition, if poor; unsatiated by the East and by the West: the only people who behold wealth and indigence with equal avidity.
To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call empire; and where they make a desert, they call it peace.

-"Agricola" by Cornelius Tacitus (30)

There is very little similarity between the Roman Empire and the USA. The former Great Britiain is a better example. But hey, pull a paragraph of Agricola and use it for social media pseudohistory in support of an Anti US agenda,

Here is a great read on Imperialism

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/imperialism-lessons-from-history/

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5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

There is very little similarity between the Roman Empire and the USA. The former Great Britiain is a better example. But hey, pull a paragraph of Agricola and use it for social media pseudohistory in support of an Anti US agenda,

Here is a great read on Imperialism

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/imperialism-lessons-from-history/

Let's apply it to Israel instead. This is about right.

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The wit & wisdom of Victor Davis Hanson? <laughs> biggrin Well he does write at the sixth grade reading level you MAGA types can comprehend.

Very little to do with each other. Rome was trying to take over the world and killed at will, torturing and for sport. The US has always tried to help other countries from tyranny, even if they made mistakes along the way. They both had slaves for labor and to use, at least some in the US south. Slavery of course is higher now than ever before, with a lot of it here in Thailand.

Rome and England was closer in actions, Rome not racial as far as slavery but England was.

Rome was genocidal in action while taking over territories. The US isn't trying to take over territories by force or killing. It's trying to install democracy into a few places so the people are free from protest killings, rape and torture. America says wars are for defense or protecting freedom while Rome wanted total control.

Rome had games where people were slaughtered, for entertainment. Britain tried taking over Africa, Tasmania and Asia, killing thousands, the same as Rome did in it's European expansion. Much the same on control but for different reasons, unlike America's goals. Of course some will argue it's still mostly about oil but the main reasons are eliminating a dictatorship where killing is for control. Some think America uses machiavellian actions but are still wanting Iran to have that democracy with better leaders and not for their own control.

28 minutes ago, connda said:

Let's apply it to Israel instead. This is about right.

Emperor_Don.jpg110959-drone-footage-northern-gaza-clean0-2486429788.jpg

The wit & wisdom of Victor Davis Hanson? <laughs> biggrin Well he does write at the sixth grade reading level you MAGA types can comprehend.

Well you cant lol

Another poor historical analogy BTW

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